Dan Gilbert and Robert Sarver killed CBA deal

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]It's cute and politically correct for people to say they want parity, but people don't watch it when it actually happens. The worst rated finals ever had San Antonio vs Cleveland and NJ. You think that's just a coincidence? It's not like they didn't have star power. Duncan, Kidd, Lebron are all superstars. The NBA's biggest following comes from the large cities, and pandering to the small markets by isolating the cities out of contention is a bad business decision.[/QUOTE]

Wrong. The Spurs always had the highest ratings internationally. They had the lowest in USA, but worldwide they had the highest. NBA made more money when Spurs were in finals than with any other team.

No coincidence why the Spurs won 4 titles, with the enormous cash they brought in. Of course, easily tricked and manipulated people believe this bullshit that they had the lowest ratings.

Clever by NBA marketing by only counting US ratings. See this way the average NBA idiot fan actually believes the NBA does not rig every playoffs. "See, see, NBA ain't rigged or Spurs would never be in the finals. Because they had the lowest ratings. Why would NBA purposely lose money if it was rigged? They would not let the Spurs in there if it was really rigged".

Meanwhile, the Spurs were the highest income team of all NBA with their huge international TV draws.

It is really pathetic how stupid NBA fans are.

[QUOTE=Euroleague]NBA makes $4 billion and spends $4.3-$4.35 billion. That means the NBA loses $300-$350 million ever year. If you can't figure out that there is something wrong with this "business model" then you are simply retarded.[/QUOTE]

Most of those losses are due to interest and amortization.

Any accountant can show a business is losing money. Google "hollywood accounting", and educate yourself.

Calling you retarded would be an insult to retarded people.

[QUOTE=Euroleague]Wrong. The Spurs always had the highest ratings internationally. They had the lowest in USA, but worldwide they had the highest. NBA made more money when Spurs were in finals than with any other team.

No coincidence why the Spurs won 4 titles, with the enormous cash they brought in. Of course, easily tricked and manipulated people believe this bullshit that they had the lowest ratings.

Clevelrlie by NBA marketing by only counting US ratings. See this way the average NBA idiot fan actually believes the NBA does not rig every playoffs. "See, see, NBA ain't rigged or Spurs would never be in the finals. Because they had the lowest ratings. Why would NBA purposely lose money if it was rigged? They would not let the Spurs in there if it was really rigged".

Meanwhile, the Spurs were the highest income team of all NBA with their huge international TV draws.

It is really pathetic how stupid NBA fans are.[/QUOTE]


You gonna back up that claim with proof?

If the Spurs generate the most money as you claim, and the NBA is rigged, as you also claim, then why not have the Spurs win every year?

[QUOTE=bagelred]Well the socialism thing was more an aside. I'm just making a point the disparity between people's thoughts in real life, where people hate these social programs and have this laissez faire attitude, yet when it comes to NBA players getting paid....NOW we have to restrict that and make everything "fair" and make sure "everyone can compete". I just thought that was amusing.[/QUOTE]

It's not socialism. It's fascism. In America, it is truly shocking that people call fascism "socialism". It is becoming downright scary when the average American thinks fascism is socialism.

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]The NFL makes money because they play football, not because it has parity. The parity it supposedly has is fake on top of that. The only reason it seems like it has parity is that they play a single elimination playoff format. If the NFL moved to a best of 7 series like the NBA, there would never be upsets. The NBA format guarantees the best team always wins, while the NFL format allows for flukes to happen, and then calls it parity. The Giants would never be able to beat the Patriots in a best of 7 series, but because they only had to beat them once, they were able to win the title.

Just think about how much different the NBA would be with a 1 and done playoff. Jordan would lose his first title to the Lakers in 1991. The Knicks would have beaten the Bulls in 1993. The Mavs would have won the title in 2006. The Sixers would have beaten the Lakers in 2001, and Iverson would have a ring. Lebron would have a title this year.[/QUOTE]

Wrong. The NBA format guarantees that whatever team Stern wants to win (with crooked refs) wins.

[QUOTE=Euroleague]
No coincidence why the Spurs won 4 titles, with the enormous cash they brought in. Of course, easily tricked and manipulated people believe this bullshit that they had the lowest ratings.
[/QUOTE]
You are the stupidest poster on any website I've ever heard of.

If the NBA is just rigging the league for the money, Kobe or Yao Ming will win the title every year, fact. Maybe LeBron James.

Your theories are whack-job, at best.

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Why should they if they are worth more? A person like Lebron James is worth much more than the 15 or so million he makes. The Cleveland Cavalier went from $222 million before Lebron to $480 million after him. That appreciation in value was not due to the new jerseys they made. The value of the Miami Heat went up $200 million dollars when he signed there. How much of that does he get to see?

The price of tickets has nothing to do with player salaries. It is all based on supply/demand. I would have to pay about $1 million to get Jack Nicholson's seats at a Laker game. Meanwhile I could sit behind the bench in New Jersey for $50. I can get regular seats in New Jersey for under $1. The Knicks have actually lowered their payroll over the last few years, and are now RAISING the price of tickets by 60%!!! The reason they can get away with that is they have 2 new stars and everyone in NY wants to see them play (demand).[/QUOTE]

Once again this is complete nonsense. The NBA markets LeBron and their partners like Nike and Gatorade do the same in collusion. The NBA TV partners like TNT and ESPN do the same by endlessly hyping him.

The league makes rules to make him better than he really is (much better) and has the refs help him.

They start with creating this fake "superstar" early on (high school). They also spend millions of dollars to make FIBA and the Olympics rig the tournaments to allow him to win against "inferior foreign scrubs".

The NBA can do this same thing with literally thousands of players in the world. Many just as athletic or more than LeBron. They can also find one that actually has a brain, can actually shoot, and can actually play against a half zone defense.

LeBron can be replaced by the NBA in a micro second because the average NBA fan is just as retarded as you are and is too freaking stupid to grasp even the simplest of concepts. Such as hype and marketing is not reality, it is just a bunch of bullshit that is being sold to you. A bill of goods that mindless consumers like you buy.

The NBA can make another LeBron any day they want. All they have to do is get rid of the current one. The current "star" creation. Dumping all the current players would actually allow that to happen.

[QUOTE=Euroleague]Wrong. The NBA format guarantees that whatever team Stern wants to win (with crooked refs) wins.[/QUOTE]

Isn't Stern a Knicks fan? He grew up in NY. If he picks the teams to win that he wants, wouldn't he pick his hometown team in his largest market to win at least 1 title in the past 30 years?

[QUOTE=Droid101]This statement makes absolutely no sense.

Par for the course, I guess.[/QUOTE]

NBA loses $300-$350 million every year.

Euroleague nets over $100 million every year.

The Euroleague is vastly ahead of the NBA financially.

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Most of those losses are due to interest and amortization.

Any accountant can show a business is losing money. Google "hollywood accounting", and educate yourself.

Calling you retarded would be an insult to retarded people.[/QUOTE]

You are such an idiot.

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]You gonna back up that claim with proof?

If the Spurs generate the most money as you claim, and the NBA is rigged, as you also claim, then why not have the Spurs win every year?[/QUOTE]

They don't now idiot. They did back 5 years ago though. You just obviously believe whatever you read on internet or whatever the media tells you. Or whatever you see in a commercial.

You are obviously incapable of thinking for yourself.

[QUOTE=Euroleague]They don't now idiot. They did back 5 years ago though. You just obviously believe whatever you read on internet or whatever the media tells you. Or whatever you see in a commercial.

You are obviously incapable of thinking for yourself.[/QUOTE]

Your schtick at first was kinda annoying, but now after reading more of your posts and seeing how well you can stay in character, I have a better appreciation for it. To be able to stay that dumb for so long definitely deserves kudos.

[QUOTE=Droid101]You are the stupidest poster on any website I've ever heard of.

If the NBA is just rigging the league for the money, Kobe or Yao Ming will win the title every year, fact. Maybe LeBron James.

Your theories are whack-job, at best.[/QUOTE]

Your IQ cannot be above 80.

You cannot rig the same team to win every year fool. Otherwise people like you will finally catch on, no matter how dumb. By changing up here and there then idiots like you say, "if it was rigged how come same team don't win every time, duh. See it ain't rigged."

Also, NBA is an extremely racist and incredibly, hugely immense ultra zealot patriot USA organization. Yao Ming, a Chinese player would never ever never ever be allowed to lead a team to an NBA championship.

Unless there is a direct script story line that the NBA pushes to idiots like you, such as "Dirk finally wins the big one" (which is nothing more than a rigged title gifted to Cuban to shut him up about all the other rigging the NBA does - like 2006 Finals).......

A German white boy would never sniff a title, whether he deserved it or not.

You probably actually believe that Bird-Magic was just all a magical coincidence too. Your level of naivete is ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Euroleague]
You probably actually believe that Bird-Magic was just all a magical coincidence too. Your level of naivete is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
:roll:

You are the biggest joke on the internet.

[QUOTE=Euroleague][B]Wrong. The Spurs always had the highest ratings internationally. They had the lowest in USA, but worldwide they had the highest. NBA made more money when Spurs were in finals than with any other team.[/B]

No coincidence why the Spurs won 4 titles, with the enormous cash they brought in. Of course, easily tricked and manipulated people believe this bullshit that they had the lowest ratings.

Clever by NBA marketing by only counting US ratings. See this way the average NBA idiot fan actually believes the NBA does not rig every playoffs. "See, see, NBA ain't rigged or Spurs would never be in the finals. Because they had the lowest ratings. Why would NBA purposely lose money if it was rigged? They would not let the Spurs in there if it was really rigged".

Meanwhile, the Spurs were the highest income team of all NBA with their huge international TV draws.

It is really pathetic how stupid NBA fans are.[/QUOTE]

prove it

show that the ratings were the best ever worldwide with the spurs in the finals, and that the nba made the most money with the spurs in the finals