Just look at that fb pic of him with his Dad and (presumed) little bro...he is VISIBLY disgusted that he's taking a pic with fam rather than people his age in a social context. We're talking seething infuration here
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Just look at that fb pic of him with his Dad and (presumed) little bro...he is VISIBLY disgusted that he's taking a pic with fam rather than people his age in a social context. We're talking seething infuration here
it's the state of morale currently in the nation/union
yes, it is just another tragedy that happens daily which results in death.
coke/meth/drug dealers kill people because people overdose on it
drunk drivers kill people because their abitliy to operate a vehicle has been impaired.
it is the reflection of how people feel about others
where as before, people pursued its own happiness, which resulted in "accidental death" of others due to the lack of judgement
now there are people who with the lack of happiness, are intentionally hurting others.
it's just the state of morale currently in the nation/union
Sheed I agree with you. But the Internet is a vehicle for every disaffected loser to come out and display their absolute disregard for morality and decency. I'm plenty liberal when it comes to comedy, but some of the garbage posted in this thread really shows sick minds. Is what it is though. Just have to hope that those with a sense of compassion and empathy outweigh the rest. It isn't even about being self righteous or whatever these nuts will accuse you of. It's just about just having some kind of human code. But so many are desensitized in today's society.
[QUOTE=DMV2]I believe Rasheed1 works with trouble kids in the school system, so it's probably why he'd be more sensitive with this topic than the rest of you guys. At the same time, he should realized this is an Internet forum where there's little to no filtration.
If we start to respect each other's opinions, agree to disagree, then this forum will be better for it. :)[/QUOTE]
Your definitely right, maybe Sheed is being a bit oversensitive. But Moe is straight up attacking dudes for no reason nowadays, its just getting tiring.
[QUOTE=COnDEMnED]They would be stupid to do this because [B]most all of the recent mass shootings have been anti-gun liberal democrats[/B]. This one is no different aside from the fact he used his car and a knife to kill 4 of the 6 people.[/QUOTE]
What a load of shit. De-bunked and de-bunked again by numerous sources.
1. Nidal Hasan (the Ft. Hood shooter) lived in either Virginia (his state of residence prior to being sent to Ft. Hood) or Texas, neither of which has partisan registration. Therefore the claim that he was a "registered Democrat" is false. I do not know if he voted or how he voted, but I do know that unless he was registered in a state in which he did not reside, that the claim that he is a registered Democrat is FALSE.
2. Since Virginia does not have partisan registration there is also no way to tell whether Seung-Hui Cho was a Democrat, but again because there is no partisan registration in the state we can say that the claim that he is a registered Democrat is FALSE. (Update: A more obvious point is that Cho was a resident alien, not a US citizen, so he was not eligible to vote in the US)
3. The allegation that James Holmes was registered Democrat was based on a Breitbart blogger Joel B. Pollack, who found voter registration records for a DIFFERENT James Holmes who was about the same age. Alex Jones' Infowars and other right-wing websites then dutifully repeated the lie without verifying it. It was later determined that the Colorado Theater Shooter James Holmes was NOT registered to vote, as evidenced by this retraction: {Newly-released information on the suspect's birthdate (which, as indicated in our initial report, was a slight mismatch), combined with new details Breitbart News has obtained about the suspect's likely addresses, together suggest that the suspect may, in fact, not have been registered to vote.}. However, most of right-wing media continued to promote the lie without printing Breitbart sites retraction. The claim that James Holmes was a registered Democrat is FALSE.
4. The claim that Adama Lanza is a registered Democrat has been suggested based not on any evidence that he was registered as one, but on the rather dubious claim that because Connecticut has almost 2 to 1 Democratic registration over Republicans, he was probably a Democrat. (Claim: "Adam Lanza, NewtownConn murderer. Registered Democrats outnumber Republicans by about a 2-1 ratio in Connecticut. The odds are therefore that the Lanza family are (sic) Democrats.") This of course is a bogus argument to begin with, but even if we were to make the claim that a mass shooter's political affiliation must be the same as the majority of the people in his area, we can debunk this foolish idea by taking this shoddy analysis down to the local level. Yes, Connecticut voted for Barack Obama, BUT the city of Newtown voted for Mitt Romney. If we look at the results we find that Mitt Romney defeated Barack Obama in Newtown by 7451-6784 votes or 51.7 percent to 47 percent. Republican Senate candidate and Tea Party favorite Linda McMahon carried the city over Democrat Chris Murphy by an even larger margin. Add in the other information we have that Lanza's mother was a "doomsday prepper" and a home schooler in a Republican-leaning city and we can pretty well dispense with the erroneous assumption that Lanza must have been a Democrat (UPDATE: According to at least one media source, Nancy Lanza was a registered Republican. The source does not provide a link, but the author of this article is seeking further confirmation). We can therefore claim that with no evidence to support the claim, the assertion that Lanza was a Democrat is not demonstrated and that in the absence of any evidence it is likely FALSE.
5. Klebold and Harris of course were not old enough to vote and they had no apparent political affiliation. Allegations that they came from families of Democrats or liberal progressives appear to have no sources to substantiate those claims. What little ideology the boys demonstrated owed mostly to an admiration for Timothy McVeigh not Ted Kennedy. Harris' father was a retired Air Force pilot and Eric Harris wanted to join the Marine Corps. The boys lived in Littleton, Colorado a relatively conservative and affluent suburb of Denver. The claim that their parents were Democrats is UNSUBSTANTIATED. Any suggestion that the two boys were Democrats is demonstrably FALSE.
Interestingly, Hedgecock and those on the far right have conveniently overlooked a number of cases where ideology is clearly right-wing. The acts below are instances of right-wing violence that are unequivocally committed by people who are openly hostile to liberalism. While this does not mean these killers are Republicans, it is quite clear that they are RIGHT-WINGERS and that they have far more in common with Mr. Hedgecock, Alex Jones and the other gun-toting conspiracy nuts on the right than with any evils associated with the Democratic Party or liberalism. In addition, to the list below is the obvious case of Timothy McVeigh, who I have not included because his crime was not committed with firearms. It was however, committed by a right-winger and the carnage was on a massive scale.
For example, on July 18, 1984 James Oliver Huberty, who told his wife he hated "children, Mexicans and the United States" opened fire inside the McDonald's Restaurant in San Ysidro, CA using a Browning P-35 Hi-Power 9mm pistol, Winchester 1200 pump-action 12-gauge shotgun, and an Israeli Military Industries 9mm Carbine (Uzi) - all legally acquired. He killed 21 and injured 19 before he was shot dead by police.
On Aug. 10, 1999 White supremacist Buford O. Furrow, Jr., fired 70 rounds with an Uzi-type submachine-gun inside the lobby of the Jewish Community Center in Granada Hills, CA wounding three children, a teenage counselor and an office worker. He then carjacked a woman's Toyota at gunpoint, dumped it behind a motel and murdered US Postal Worker Joseph Santos with a Glock 9mm handgun.
On July 27, 2008 Former U.S. Army private, Jim David Atkinsson, who hated Democrats, liberals, African Americans and homosexuals, using a Remington Model 48 12-gauge shotgun, murdered two people and injured seven others inside the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, TN.
The day after Obama's inauguration, white supremacist Keith Luke went on a killing spree in Brockton, Massachusetts. His goal was to kill as many Jews, blacks and Hispanics as possible. When questioned by investigators, the deranged gunman who had stockpiled hundreds of rounds of ammunition, proclaimed that he was fighting the extinction of the white race. A little over a month later, Donnie Baker, a former Republican campaign volunteer shot seven Chilean immigrants in Florida. Those who knew him said he was obsessed with the fear that illegal immigrants were taking over the country.
In April of 2009, Richard Popalowski, a white supremacist in Pittsburgh, shot and killed three police officers following a domestic disturbance call. He apparently thought that Obama was part of a government conspiracy to seize all guns, and he feared the government would take his guns away.
Later the same month, a Fort Walton Beach Florida man who thought the Obama administration was conspiring against him, shot and murdered two sheriff's deputies.
On May 31, 2009 Dr. George Tiller was murdered in his own church by a right-wing "pro- life" gun man who decided to express his belief in the sanctity of human life by executing a medical doctor.
Eleven days later a right-wing white supremacist and Holocaust denier walked into the National Holocaust Museum and killed an African-American security guard. Two weeks later, three Neo-Nazis were arrested for bombing a diversity office in Scottsdale, Arizona.
On April 20, 2010 a member of the Sovereign Citizen movement was arrested after a failed attempt to take over a Tennessee county courthouse.
Exactly one month later, in West Memphis Arkansas, Sovereign citizens Jerry and Joe Kane murdered two police officers before they themselves were shot and killed in the ensuing shoot out with police.
On July 18, 2010 Byron Williams, an angry unemployed man, was arrested by police after they discovered a car full of weapons and ammunition that he had planned to use to kill progressives. He was on his way to the non-profit Tides Foundation Center, a favorite target of vitriol from Glenn Beck's radio show.
On Jan. 8, 2011 22-year old Jared Lee Loughner killed six people, including a judge and a nine-year old child, and wounded 13 others, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ), using a 9mm Glock 19 pistol during a public meeting in a supermarket parking lot near Tuscon, AZ.
On Aug. 5, 2012 Wade Michael Page, a 40-year old white supremacist and U.S. Army veteran murdered six people and wounded four others inside a Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, WI with a Springfield XD(M) semi-automatic pistol.
[url]http://www.examiner.com/article/the-idea-that-recent-mass-shooters-are-mostly-registered-democrats-is-a-myth[/url]
This is pathetic. I wouldn't even file this under the quiet loner category. This kid was just flat out over privileged. He didn't want the attention of just any girl, he wanted a Hollywood 10. Bitching about how unfair life is while simultaneously flying in luxury jetliners and enjoying a life most people never glimpse. Cool.
Just total rich entitlement. Can't have what they want and aren't used to it, so they try and take it away from everyone else.
Excellent post Droid. I would also add that there has been extensive studies recently about the links of far right wing hate groups to numerous killings.
Of course these "Duh, these killers are alll libral" types will ignore all of that.
[QUOTE=bdreason]Just legalize prostitution.[/QUOTE]
The state of Nevada has legal brothels. Right next to California where shooter lived.
[QUOTE=Droid101]Interestingly, Hedgecock and those on the far right have conveniently overlooked a number of cases where ideology is clearly right-wing. The acts below are instances of right-wing violence that are unequivocally committed by people who are openly hostile to liberalism. While this does not mean these killers are Republicans, it is quite clear that they are RIGHT-WINGERS and that they have far more in common with Mr. Hedgecock, Alex Jones and the other gun-toting conspiracy nuts on the right than with any evils associated with the Democratic Party or liberalism. In addition, to the list below is the obvious case of Timothy McVeigh, who I have not included because his crime was not committed with firearms. It was however, committed by a right-winger and the carnage was on a massive scale.
For example, on July 18, 1984 James Oliver Huberty, who told his wife he hated "children, Mexicans and the United States" opened fire inside the McDonald's Restaurant in San Ysidro, CA using a Browning P-35 Hi-Power 9mm pistol, Winchester 1200 pump-action 12-gauge shotgun, and an Israeli Military Industries 9mm Carbine (Uzi) - all legally acquired. He killed 21 and injured 19 before he was shot dead by police.[/quote]Any American who hates the US of A is not a right-winger.
[QUOTE=Droid101]
On Aug. 10, 1999 White supremacist Buford O. Furrow, Jr., fired 70 rounds with an Uzi-type submachine-gun inside the lobby of the Jewish Community Center in Granada Hills, CA wounding three children, a teenage counselor and an office worker. He then carjacked a woman's Toyota at gunpoint, dumped it behind a motel and murdered US Postal Worker Joseph Santos with a Glock 9mm handgun.[/quote] White supremecists and all non-moslem anti-semites are radical left-wingers, much like their Nazi inspiration
[QUOTE=Droid101]
On July 27, 2008 Former U.S. Army private, Jim David Atkinsson, who hated Democrats, liberals, African Americans and homosexuals, using a Remington Model 48 12-gauge shotgun, murdered two people and injured seven others inside the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, TN.
[/quote] Anyone who shoots up a church is not a right-winger.
[QUOTE=Droid101]
The day after Obama's inauguration, white supremacist Keith Luke went on a killing spree in Brockton, Massachusetts. His goal was to kill as many Jews, blacks and Hispanics as possible. When questioned by investigators, the deranged gunman who had stockpiled hundreds of rounds of ammunition, proclaimed that he was fighting the extinction of the white race. A little over a month later, Donnie Baker, a former Republican campaign volunteer shot seven Chilean immigrants in Florida. Those who knew him said he was obsessed with the fear that illegal immigrants were taking over the country.
[/quote]Again, those who hate Jewish people are far left-wing, like their nazi forefathers.
[QUOTE=Droid101]
In April of 2009, Richard Popalowski, a white supremacist in Pittsburgh, shot and killed three police officers following a domestic disturbance call. He apparently thought that Obama was part of a government conspiracy to seize all guns, and he feared the government would take his guns away.
[/quote]Nutcases can't be considered political. They could lean left or right or anywhere all in the space of an hour, they just cray cray.
[QUOTE=Droid101]
Later the same month, a Fort Walton Beach Florida man who thought the Obama administration was conspiring against him, shot and murdered two sheriff's deputies.
[/quote]Nutcase = apolitical
[QUOTE=Droid101]
On May 31, 2009 Dr. George Tiller was murdered in his own church by a right-wing "pro- life" gun man who decided to express his belief in the sanctity of human life by executing a medical doctor.
[/quote]Repeat, anyone who brings violence into a church is not a right-winger
[QUOTE=Droid101]
Eleven days later a right-wing white supremacist and Holocaust denier walked into the National Holocaust Museum and killed an African-American security guard. Two weeks later, three Neo-Nazis were arrested for bombing a diversity office in Scottsdale, Arizona.
[/quote]White supremecists are extreme left-wing...umm hello?? Nazis?
[QUOTE=Droid101]
On April 20, 2010 a member of the Sovereign Citizen movement was arrested after a failed attempt to take over a Tennessee county courthouse.
[/quote] Does not respect the rule of law...hence, anarchist not right-winger
[QUOTE=Droid101]
Exactly one month later, in West Memphis Arkansas, Sovereign citizens Jerry and Joe Kane murdered two police officers before they themselves were shot and killed in the ensuing shoot out with police.
[/quote]Anarchists
[QUOTE=Droid101]
On July 18, 2010 Byron Williams, an angry unemployed man, was arrested by police after they discovered a car full of weapons and ammunition that he had planned to use to kill progressives. He was on his way to the non-profit Tides Foundation Center, a favorite target of vitriol from Glenn Beck's radio show.
[/quote] Nutcase does not a right-winger make
[QUOTE=Droid101]
On Jan. 8, 2011 22-year old Jared Lee Loughner killed six people, including a judge and a nine-year old child, and wounded 13 others, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ), using a 9mm Glock 19 pistol during a public meeting in a supermarket parking lot near Tuscon, AZ.
[/quote] No particular political affiliation, but if he shot at Rep Giffords because he hates Jewish people, then you can bet he is a radical LEFT winger
[QUOTE=Droid101]
On Aug. 5, 2012 Wade Michael Page, a 40-year old white supremacist and U.S. Army veteran murdered six people and wounded four others inside a Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, WI with a Springfield XD(M) semi-automatic pistol.
[/quote]White supremecist = Nazi = left-winger
[QUOTE=Droid101]
[url]http://www.examiner.com/article/the-idea-that-recent-mass-shooters-are-mostly-registered-democrats-is-a-myth[/url][/QUOTE]
Link just debunked. Yur welcome.
lol I just found something Rashweed0 might get a kick out of
[IMG]http://db.carbuzz.com/images2/300000/8000/600/308655.jpg[/IMG]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MokFD36M32M[/url]
Cops knew about psycho's murderous threats but did nothing to stop him
[url]http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-warned-mass-murderers-intent-kill-action/[/url]
I read the arguments few posts up.. I don't want to get this off-topic, but I felt I had to correct things before things went out of control.
You all do realize that nazism and communism and anarchism does not even fit on the left & right political scale using in USA, right? Back in the 50s and 60s, somebody in USA wanted to try to make a scale that puts nazism, fascism and communism on one end and democratic values on the other. Lo and behold, they didn't take into account that Nazism and communism are not even on the same continuum - Hitler and Stalin would kill each other over their differences in beliefs if they were allowed free-reign as much as Thomas Jefferson would kill both Hitler/Stalin :lol .
This political scale might make more sense than the flawed scale Americans typically use for placing everyone on left to right wings scale.
[IMG]http://prosperouswaydown.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Holmgren-Natural-Political-Spectrum-Model-copy.jpg[/IMG]
(FYI, marxism IS the communism philosophy)
This is what they turned that 4-dimension scale into a 2-dimension left or right scale -- It is flawed and people tend to confuse the two:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/E4ROCyU.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Knoe Itawl]Excellent post Droid. I would also add that there has been extensive studies recently about the links of far right wing hate groups to numerous killings.
Of course these "Duh, these killers are alll libral" types will ignore all of that.[/QUOTE]
He didnt actually post it... way too dumb for that.
This is what comes from being alpha