Put DeMar DeRozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?

[QUOTE=Reggie43;14314176]Derozan in the 90s would be what? An ineffiecient 20+ppg scorer? Would that be enough for the Bulls to win it all especially considering his aforementioned inefficiency and shot selection? Lowry would be a worse fit given that they have BJ at that spot already.

Im not even sure if these guys would be perennial allstars in a slow paced, more physical era considering that guys like Ron Harper and Rod Strickland never made it even once and you could argue they were better than both prime for prime.[/QUOTE]

Strickland had drug issues. He should have been an all star in 1998

[QUOTE=97 bulls;14314141]Lol. So DeRozan will be relegated to being a 10ppg scorer in the 90s, but Myers and even more Pippens offensive production will have no impact if they play in DeRozan era? And DeRozan is a 4 time Allstar?

I must say, you guys are the reason we have so many Lebron James trolls running around. I bet if I asked you what MJs numbers would look like you will probably say they'd probably be 38-39ppg on 62% shooting am I right? I cant with you guys lol.[/QUOTE]

If he's taking myers exact spot with the exact same minutes then yes. Maybe you didn't finish school but if a player scores 20 points a game and he plays 38 min and you reduce his minutes in half hiw many points would you say he would score? Your problem isn't with me dude it's with basic math:facepalm

[QUOTE=97 bulls;14314141]Lol. So DeRozan will be relegated to being a 10ppg scorer in the 90s, but Myers and even more Pippens offensive production will have no impact if they play in DeRozan era? And DeRozan is a 4 time Allstar?

I must say, you guys are the reason we have so many Lebron James trolls running around. I bet if I asked you what MJs numbers would look like you will probably say they'd probably be 38-39ppg on 62% shooting am I right? I cant with you guys lol.[/QUOTE]

And as far mj goes it depends. If he's in an offense that uses alot of on and off ball movement like the triangle then he probably scores 2-3 more points because of pace and the easier rules. So maybe around 33-35pts a game on a little better efficiency. If mj is playing in ball dominant role like harden and alot players of today do then yes he could definitely score 38-40 points a game. He wouldn't win that way though. Harden just had a couole seasons of around 35. You don't think if you threw mj in a similar system he couldn't score 2 or 3 more points a game than james harden?

[QUOTE=Bronbron23;14314253]If he's taking myers exact spot with the exact same minutes then yes. Maybe you didn't finish school but if a player scores 20 points a game and he plays 38 min and you reduce his minutes in half hiw many points would you say he would score? Your problem isn't with me dude it's with basic math:facepalm[/QUOTE]

I didn't know we were getting technical. I see what you're saying. Ok, what would DeRozans numbers look like if he played the same amount of minutes as he does today?

[QUOTE=Bronbron23;14314264]And as far mj goes it depends. If he's in an offense that uses alot of on and off ball movement like the triangle then he probably scores 2-3 more points because of pace and the easier rules. So maybe around 33-35pts a game on a little better efficiency. If mj is playing in ball dominant role like harden and alot players of today do then yes he could definitely score 38-40 points a game. He wouldn't win that way though. Harden just had a couole seasons of around 35. You don't think if you threw mj in a similar system he couldn't score 2 or 3 more points a game than james harden?[/QUOTE]

I do. I absolutely feel Jordan gets a boost in production in todays league.I'm just trying to find some scale on your reasoning. That why I asked for you to provide Myers and Pippen production in todays league. With the same number of minutes they played on the Bulls.

[QUOTE=97 bulls;14314287]I didn't know we were getting technical. I see what you're saying. Ok, what would DeRozans numbers look like if he played the same amount of minutes as he does today?[/QUOTE]

If he played the same amount of minutes than maybe he scores 2 or 3 points less on 2 or 3 less fg%. It was an era were pace was lower and scoring was harder so that puts him at around 19-20 pts on 39-40% fg.

I'm sorry that's not very good and that's my problem. Either he's taking myers exact minutes and he scores around 10 pts a game which is only 3 more points a game than myers in the 94 playoffs or he's playing his regular 35-38 minutes and he's hijacking a large part of your fairly efficient offense with his inefficient play. On top of that he can't defend for shit. Either way i don't see how DeRozan is helping the 94 bulls get anywhere close to winning a chip.

[QUOTE=Bronbron23;14314293]If he played the same amount of minutes than maybe he scores 2 or 3 points less on 2 or 3 less fg%. It was an era were pace was lower and scoring was harder so that puts him at around 19-20 pts on 39-40% fg.

I'm sorry that's not very good and that's my problem. Either he's taking myers exact minutes and he scores around 10 pts a game which is only 3 more points a game than myers in the 94 playoffs or he's playing his regular 35-38 minutes and he's hijacking a large part of your fairly efficient offense with his inefficient play. On top of that he can't defend for shit. Either way i don't see how DeRozan is helping the 94 bulls get anywhere close to winning a chip.[/QUOTE]

Ok. I cant argue with that. Who would you take to start a franchise. Pete Myers or Drmar DeRozan? Gun to your head.

[QUOTE=97 bulls;14314295]Ok. I cant argue with that. Who would you take to start a franchise. Pete Myers or Drmar DeRozan? Gun to your head.[/QUOTE]

Lol DeRozan is definitely the lesser of the 2 evils. I never thought myers was better than DeRozan. I just think on a contender he's a better fit because he knows his limited roll and will play it. DeRozan on the other hand thinks he's a superstar. He wants his 17-20 inefficient shots and that's not gonna win you a ring.

[QUOTE=Bronbron23;14314304]Lol DeRozan is definitely the lesser of the 2 evils. I never thought myers was better than DeRozan. I just think on a contender he's a better fit because he knows his limited roll and will play it. DeRozan on the other hand thinks he's a superstar. He wants his 17-20 inefficient shots and that's not gonna win you a ring.[/QUOTE]

I can see your point. That was Pippen’s team when jordan left. You cant just plug and play demar and expect others to have good chemistry with him. The rest earned their stripes and were riding on a whole lot of momentum. I can see that they may beat the knicks, but theyre not beating the rockets

[QUOTE=97 bulls;14314292]I do. I absolutely feel Jordan gets a boost in production in todays league.I'm just trying to find some scale on your reasoning. That why I asked for you to provide Myers and Pippen production in todays league. With the same number of minutes they played on the Bulls.[/QUOTE]

Myers doesn't do much more than he did back then. Roll players always gonna play their roll. Pippen is an interesting one. Unlike most mj fans i'm pretty high on pip so i feel like he'd definitely be a problem today. I say he's around 2-3 more points better because of pace and rules so that's around 25 pts a game. The one knock on pip would be his 3 point game but later in his career he got a better from 3. in this era with more focus on the three i don't see why pip wouldn't be at least respectable from three.

[QUOTE=Airupthere;14314307]I can see your point. That was Pippen’s team when jordan left. You cant just plug and play demar and expect others to have good chemistry with him. The rest earned their stripes and were riding on a whole lot of momentum. I can see that they may beat the knicks, but theyre not beating the rockets[/QUOTE]

Yeah given he dosn't screw up the chemistry i can see them beating the knicks. Definitely don't see them beating houston and even pacers in the ECF would be tough. They were bigger than the knicks and just as physical. Playing the knicks in 7 and then a long series with the pacers is gonna take its toll physically, especially back then.

Sorry did you ask?

[B]Put Demar Derozan with the 2010-11 Miami Heat?[/B]

Of course, they would beat Mavs, he would guard Terry and Barea better than Lebron.

[QUOTE=Shooter;14313970]They almost won a chip with Pete Myers, who averaged 1-1-1 in the 1995 Playoffs. Any slight upgrade and they win the chip. Easily win with Klay or Kyle Lowry.[/QUOTE]

They didn't come close to winning a chip with Pete Meyers in '94 or '95. They got bounced in the second round genius.

[QUOTE=97 bulls;14314295]Ok. I cant argue with that. Who would you take to start a franchise. Pete Myers or Drmar DeRozan? Gun to your head.[/QUOTE]

I'm the GM and I have to choose between Meyers, Derozan or the gun? I'm taking the gun.

[QUOTE=97 bulls;14314141]Lol. So DeRozan will be relegated to being a 10ppg scorer in the 90s, but Myers and even more Pippens offensive production will have no impact if they play in DeRozan era? And DeRozan is a 4 time Allstar?

[B]I must say, you guys are the reason we have so many Lebron James trolls running around.[/B] I bet if I asked you what MJs numbers would look like you will probably say they'd probably be 38-39ppg on 62% shooting am I right? I cant with you guys lol.[/QUOTE]

Facts. You're the only MJ fan poster on this site that actually makes me respect MJ more, because you're honest about shit. These other fakers make me roast MJ even more :lol