"Pippen was the best player in the world in 93, 94, 95" - Dennis Rodman

[QUOTE=Shooter;14334400][img]https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ExemplaryCheapCapybara-max-1mb.gif[/img]
[img]https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ExemplaryCheapCapybara-max-1mb.gif[/img]

dey know[/QUOTE]




[SIZE=3]History knows:[/SIZE]



[Indent][B]13' Wade. Playoffs[/B]...... 18.7 PER.. 3.0 bpm.. 1.0 vorp.. 0.108 ws/48
[B]93' Pippen Playoffs[/B]'.... 16.9 PER.. 2.0 bpm.. 0.8 vorp.. 0.083 ws/48

[B]94' Ewing. ECSF[/B].... 23/12 on 53%
[B]94' Pippen ECSF[/B]..... 22/8 on 41%

[B]14' Wade. ECF[/B]........ 20 and 5 apg... 47% (1b to bron's 22 ppg)
[B]95' Pippen ECSF[/B]'.... 19 and 6 apg... 41%[/Indent]



[SIZE=3] Comparing sidekick help while trying to 3-peat[/SIZE]


[Indent][B]14' Wade Playoffs[/B]...'.. 18.5 PER.. 0.086 ws/48.. 1.6 obpm
[B]93' Pippen Playoffs[/B]... 16.9 PER.. 0.083 ws/48.. 1.1 obpm


[U]Per 100 Possessions[/U]

[B]14' Wade[/B]...'.. 28.6 pts.. 6.2 ast.. 56.0 ts.. 106 ortg
[B]93' Pippen[/B]... 26.2 pts.. 7.4 ast.. 50.0 ts.. 102 ortg[/indent]



[B]TLDR:[/B] Rodman is off his rocker
.

[QUOTE=3ball;14334442][SIZE=3]History knows:[/SIZE]



[Indent][B]13' Wade. Playoffs[/B]...... 18.7 PER.. 3.0 bpm.. 1.0 vorp.. 0.108 ws/48
[B]93' Pippen Playoffs[/B]'.... 16.9 PER.. 2.0 bpm.. 0.8 vorp.. 0.083 ws/48

[B]94' Ewing. ECSF[/B].... 23/12 on 53%
[B]94' Pippen ECSF[/B]..... 22/8 on 41%

[B]14' Wade. ECF[/B]........ 20 and 5 apg... 47% (1b to bron's 22 ppg)
[B]95' Pippen ECSF[/B]'.... 19 and 6 apg... 41%[/Indent]



[SIZE=3] Comparing sidekick help while trying to 3-peat[/SIZE]


[Indent][B]14' Wade Playoffs[/B]...'.. 18.5 PER.. 0.086 ws/48.. 1.6 obpm
[B]93' Pippen Playoffs[/B]... 16.9 PER.. 0.083 ws/48.. 1.1 obpm


[U]Per 100 Possessions[/U]

[B]14' Wade[/B]...'.. 28.6 pts.. 6.2 ast.. 56.0 ts.. 106 ortg
[B]93' Pippen[/B]... 26.2 pts.. 7.4 ast.. 50.0 ts.. 102 ortg[/indent]



[B]TLDR:[/B] Rodman is off his rocker
.[/QUOTE]

2013 Wade scored fewer PPGz than the lowest Championship run Pippen ever had. And we haven't even addressed defense and rebounding.

[QUOTE=Shooter;14334452]2013 Wade scored fewer PPGz than the lowest Championship run Pippen ever had. And we haven't even addressed defense and rebounding.[/QUOTE]


13' Wade scored more pace-adjusted and was 1b in the Finals with 20 ppg (25 for lebron) - Pippen was never a 1b

Regardless, Pippen was never anywhere near the best player and was a liability from 88-90', 93', 96-03', and he choked in the 94' and 95' ECSF

[QUOTE=Shooter;14334452]2013 Wade scored fewer PPGz than the lowest Championship run Pippen ever had. And we haven't even addressed defense and rebounding.[/QUOTE]

In the regular season, Wade's 21.2 ppg would be better than any Pippen season in a championship run. His 24 PER would also be an all time high for Pippen's entire career.

Dennis on hard drugs here

[QUOTE=2much_knowledge;14334478]Dennis on hard drugs here[/QUOTE]

Did you actually read some of the comments? It wasn't only Rodman that felt this way.

[QUOTE=Sarcastic;14334476]In the regular season, Wade's 21.2 ppg would be better than any Pippen season in a championship run. His 24 PER would also be an all time high for Pippen's entire career.[/QUOTE]

We're talking about the playoffs not regular season scoring. The only fans who care about that are Allen Iverson and Michael Jordan fans.

[QUOTE=Manny98;13973739]He's right, Pippen was really that good. You just have these pathetic MJ stans trying to[b] prop him down [/b]to make their hero look like he won with no help :facepalm[/QUOTE]

Prop him down? Is English your second language? It's prop him up or tear him down, dummy.

he was never close to "best in the world" lol. that's reserved for players who can lead teams to a title. pippen was an all-time #2 who at times averaged #1 numbers.

[QUOTE=mehyaM24;14334686]he was never close to "best in the world" lol. that's reserved for players who can lead teams to a title. pippen was an all-time #2 who at times averaged #1 numbers.[/QUOTE]

Did he have a fair opportunity to accomplish that feat? I mean he took over a team that was built around a player whose style wasnt like his. And even then, it was for only a year and a half. Any other guy you name would have had about 5 to 10 years of attempts at leasing a team to a title.

But as as I told you in the other thread, Pippen was extremely highly regarded during his shirt stint. And this thread more than proves it. Stats never tell the whole story.

[QUOTE=3ball;14334462]13' Wade scored more pace-adjusted and was 1b in the Finals with 20 ppg (25 for lebron) - Pippen was never a 1b

Regardless, Pippen was never anywhere near the best player and was a liability from 88-90', 93', 96-03', and he choked in the 94' and 95' ECSF[/QUOTE]

Pace cant account for the rule changes bro.

[QUOTE=97 bulls;14334728]Did he have a fair opportunity to accomplish that feat? I mean he took over a team that was built around a player whose style wasnt like his. And even then, it was for only a year and a half. Any other guy you name would have had about 5 to 10 years of attempts at leasing a team to a title.

But as as I told you in the other thread, Pippen was extremely highly regarded during his shirt stint. And this thread more than proves it. Stats never tell the whole story.[/QUOTE]

pippen had opportunities in 94, 99 & 2000. at those same ages, jordan led his teams to multiple rings. excuses only work for so long. stats are an indicator of your production. and pippen didn't produce like a guy capable of leading a team to a ring.

[QUOTE=mehyaM24;14334754]pippen had opportunities in 94, 99 & 2000. at those same ages, jordan led his teams to multiple rings. excuses only work for so long. stats are an indicator of your production. and pippen didn't produce like a guy capable of leading a team to a ring.[/QUOTE]

Pippen was 33 and 34 years old. And those teams werent built around him. I remember him complaining about the offense that was centered around Barkley and Olajuwan in Houston.

Pippen was past his prime in Portland. Prime Pippen on that Blazers teams bests the Lakers.

Stats dont tell the whole story. And Pippen was PG. That's why i keep telling you it's about impact. Look at the Wizards with Russell Westbrook and Bradley Beal this year.

:facepalm

Just reason #34343226664 why player evaluation from athletes is utterly useless. They don't have a clue.

If you read Rodman's [I]Bad As I Wanna Be[/I] (1997), you'd also come out think rebounding is the single most important thing in basketball and that he's a better player than David Robinson.

In other words, athletes are stupid. Their opinions are rarely ever based on anything tangible, but entirely driven by ego, feelings, emotions and very selective memory.

[QUOTE=Indian guy;14334775]:facepalm

Just reason #34343226664 why player evaluation from athletes is utterly useless. They don't have a clue.

If you read Rodman's [I]Bad As I Wanna Be[/I] (1997), you'd also come out think rebounding is the single most important thing in basketball and that he's a better player than David Robinson.

In other words, athletes are stupid. Their opinions are rarely ever based on anything tangible, but entirely driven by ego, feelings, emotions and very selective memory.[/QUOTE]

So whose opinion should we respect? Dudes on the internet?