Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[QUOTE=Psileas]Are you sure about the flight time of .65-.68 sec? What program did you use?
Wilt's standing reach was 9'6. 22 inches would mean that his hand should be at 11'4, which is 2 inches below the top of the white square. Also that his head is 1 foot 1 inch below the rim and way below the middle of the net (which is 15-18 inches long, as written at [url]http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_1.html?nav=ArticleList)[/url].
Check the dunk at [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=849_WdqJ8o8#t=3m38s[/url]
It's one of Wilt's closest to the rim plays seen from relatively close and Wilt's head looks way above the middle of the net, which, if true, should give him clearly above 27 inches (corresponding to the height of the middle of a typical net). His hand also looks to be above the top of the square, although it's tougher to judge than the head.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but you have to remember when you extend with just one arm (as you do on a block or dunk), your actual reach becomes much higher than your listed standing reach. Try just putting both or one your arms up without extending, and then right after, completely extend one side of your body like you would for a block, you'll see a difference of 4 or 5 inches in your reach. I don't know if I described that well, but I think you know what I mean. As for flight time, I had the video on my computer, and I just kept cutting off the video until the exact moment when he took off/landed. When you get down to just the block portion (which is under a second), you can scroll back and forth by increments of .01s, so I would say it's pretty accurate.
Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[quote=MasterDurant24]Haha... you're a Danillo Gallinari fan...
Sorry. :hammerhead:[/quote]
Haha... You're a Durant fan...
Sorry. :hammerhead:
See how stupid you are?
Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[QUOTE=Fatal9]Yes, but you have to remember when you extend with just one arm (as you do on a block or dunk), your actual reach becomes much higher than your listed standing reach. Try just putting both or one your arms up without extending, and then right after, completely extend one side of your body like you would for a block, you'll see a difference of 4 or 5 inches in your reach. I don't know if I described that well, but I think you know what I mean. As for flight time, I had the video on my computer, and I just kept cutting off the video until the exact moment when he took off/landed. When you get down to just the block portion (which is under a second), you can scroll back and forth by increments of .01s, so I would say it's pretty accurate.[/QUOTE]
I think standing reach has to do with the highest point that you'll reach with one hand (usually your "strong" one) while standing still (not on tiptoes of course) and that you have the right to extend it as much as you can, because "not extending" is subjective.
Now, if I quote well the next thing you wrote, you mean extend my body as if I'm going up for a block but actually quickly raise on my tiptoes? Yes, that's technically not a jump, but the back side of your foot is still a few inches above the ground. But that's Wilt actually jumping. There are no tricks to reach a lot of inches above your standing reach without jumping. If you meant something else, I can't find any way to see a 4-5 inch difference compared to fully extending my hand. After all, however you want to measure jumping, the same thing applies to everyone.
That's the main reason I preferred mentioning his head's height. The hand's height is more obscure, although it still looks like Wilt's whole palm is above the fingertip of his opponent, who gets more than his whole palm above the rim.
Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
Let all the fanboys dream about this guy. 23-26 standing vert is excellent for a 7 footer. Running vert would be around 30-34, which is excellent.
Watch out though. If you talk about Wilt lying about his girl count, these fanboys might harass you with proof...
Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[QUOTE=DaniloGallinari]Haha... You're a Durant fan...
Sorry. :hammerhead:
See how stupid you are?[/QUOTE]
But there are tons more Durant fans than Gallinari fans. I was laughing because I never heard of anyone being a fan of him. So excuse me...
Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[quote=MasterDurant24]But there are tons more Durant fans than Gallinari fans. I was laughing because I never heard of anyone being a fan of him. So excuse me...[/quote]
English might not be your first language, but that's no excuse for your lack of smarts. Wise up, boy.
People can be fans of whichever player they desire. Do they have to ask for your opinion first? How stupid can you be?
You know John Amaechi had fans too right?
You were implying that with me being a Gallinari fan, my opinion on Wilt is worthless? How about your opinion? Chicken shit.
Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[QUOTE=DaniloGallinari]English might not be your first language, but that's no excuse for your lack of smarts. Wise up, boy.
People can be fans of whichever player they desire. Do they have to ask for your opinion first? How stupid can you be?
You know John Amaechi had fans too right?
[B]You were implying that with me being a Gallinari fan, my opinion on Wilt is worthless? How about your opinion? Chicken shit.[/[/B]QUOTE]
What? Nah nah man. I wasn't saying your opinion was worthless at all. I was just being off topic and acknowledging the rarity of a Gallinari fan. Sorry if I gave you the wrong vibe...:confusedshrug:
Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[QUOTE=Bobe Kryant][url]http://www.sportingnews.com/archives/wilt/article3.html[/url]
Certainly doesn't sound like the athletic freak we've heard so much about. He also had only a 7'2 wingspan which is pretty surprising. And 225lbs is just embarassing. Shaq weighed something like 310lbs at the same age with 10x the athleticism.
For comparison, Shaq had a 7'7 wingspan and 36 vertical.[/QUOTE]
I'm reading that article and I believe that was when Wilt was a freshman possibly
[I]The Stilt is most effective simply because of his physical qualities. He stands 7-feet in his sweat socks. Over this frame are spread 225 sinewy pounds. He is almost as agile as a 5-11 playmaker. He can jump 24 inches straight up. Against the varsity he was not bothered noticeably by the new 12-foot lane. His timing on the slightly off-target shots of his mates, in another year, will match that of Bill Russell, the fabulous human funnel of San Francisco. Spectators can actually see his pie-plate hands jam down inside the net. [/I]
Dude probably increased his standing vert by the time he entered the NBA
[I]At his athletic peak, he was said to have been measured with a vertical jump of 48-50 inches[/I]
[URL="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/130817-greatness-revisited-why-wilt-chamberlain-is-the-greatest-nba-player-ever"]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/130817-greatness-revisited-why-wilt-chamberlain-is-the-greatest-nba-player-ever[/URL]
Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[QUOTE=Calabis]I'm reading that article and I believe that was when Wilt was a freshman possibly
[I]The Stilt is most effective simply because of his physical qualities. He stands 7-feet in his sweat socks. Over this frame are spread 225 sinewy pounds. He is almost as agile as a 5-11 playmaker. He can jump 24 inches straight up. Against the varsity he was not bothered noticeably by the new 12-foot lane. His timing on the slightly off-target shots of his mates, in another year, will match that of Bill Russell, the fabulous human funnel of San Francisco. Spectators can actually see his pie-plate hands jam down inside the net. [/I]
Dude probably increased his standing vert by the time he entered the NBA
[I]At his athletic peak, he was said to have been measured with a vertical jump of 48-50 inches[/I]
[URL="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0150219/bio"][/URL][/QUOTE]
No 7 foot man can jump 48 inches. It doesn't happen.
Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[QUOTE=MasterDurant24]No 7 foot man can jump 48 inches. It doesn't happen.[/QUOTE]
And no way anyone can have a vertical of over 50" either, right? And, obviously, 60" would be a physical impossibility.
Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[QUOTE=jlauber]And no way anyone can have a vertical of over 50" either, right? And, obviously, 60" would be a physical impossibility.[/QUOTE]
Randy Moss had a 50 inch vertical; I'm pretty sure somebody can jump higher then he did in his younger days. Or perhaps you're being sarcastic?
Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[QUOTE=MasterDurant24]Randy Moss had a 50 inch vertical; I'm pretty sure somebody can jump higher then he did in his younger days. Or perhaps you're being sarcastic?[/QUOTE]
Well, from what I have read, the world record is 61". If someone can jump that high, why is implausible for a 7-1 high jump champ to have reached 48"?
Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[QUOTE=MasterDurant24]Randy Moss had a 50 inch vertical; I'm pretty sure somebody can jump higher then he did in his younger days. Or perhaps you're being sarcastic?[/QUOTE]
Randy Moss vertical leap is with a couple steps up, his standing was 39inch
* New York Jets rookie Darrelle Revis has a 38-inch vertical jump this year (NY Times, Oct 2007).
* Randy Moss has a vertical leap score of 51" (130 cm), while 265 lbs Jevon Kearse has a best jump of 40" (102 cm).
[I]* The best vertical jump at the NFL Combine is 46" by Gerald Sensabaugh (FS), from North Carolina in 2005 (more NFL combine results).
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Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[QUOTE=jlauber]Well, from what I have read, the world record is 61". If someone can jump that high, why is implausible for a 7-1 high jump champ to have reached 48"?[/QUOTE]
Name a 7 footer who has even jumped 42 inches. But s***, maybe it is possible. I just would be suprised if it was.
Re: Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical
[QUOTE=Calabis]Randy Moss vertical leap is with a couple steps up, his standing was 39inch
* New York Jets rookie Darrelle Revis has a 38-inch vertical jump this year (NY Times, Oct 2007).
* Randy Moss has a vertical leap score of 51" (130 cm), while 265 lbs Jevon Kearse has a best jump of 40" (102 cm).
[I]* The best vertical jump at the NFL Combine is 46" by Gerald Sensabaugh (FS), from North Carolina in 2005 (more NFL combine results).
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Hmm, didn't know that.