This is out of no where.... (unless I missed something)
One of the longest tenured coaches not only in basketball, but in all sports.
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This is out of no where.... (unless I missed something)
One of the longest tenured coaches not only in basketball, but in all sports.
[QUOTE=DRoseOwnsACamry]...Oh.
Well, it wouldn't surprise me at all if 75% of the Jazz fans thought Deron meant more to the Jazz franchise then Sloan.[/QUOTE]
Have you seen the crowd at Energy Solution? I'm pretty sure majority of the Jazz fans date back to the 1990's.
Deron interview. Rips Bucher and Broussard.
[url]http://1320kfan.com/index.php/audio/listen/jerry_sloan_resignation_deron_williams_feb_10[/url]
Says "Sloan meant way more to Utah than he ever will and would leave the team before he ever forced the coach out".
Best wishes to him. Lately Ive been wondering though when he was going to retire. But yeah Im sure he has made much money and can go out and live the rest of his life happily and healthy
[QUOTE=niko]Amare wanted to stay in Phoenix and gave them a chance to sign him. They would only guarantee 2 years while NY guaranteed all 5. Utah wouldn't sign Boozer unless he took like zero money so he went to Chicago. Melo has not made any demands except that he won't sign an extension this year. Think about it. It's literally the only thing that has come out. Is he morally obligated to up for 5 more years in Denver?
I fail to see the connection between exercising one's free agent rights and acting like a jerkoff to your coach to the point he gets fired like DWill apparently did.
And btw, Paul is playing hard, complaining not at all, and he currently plays for a team that is in limbo because no one wants to buy it. You know, since we are giving him shit for trying to get out. Which he currently is not...[/QUOTE]
Maybe Amare didn't fit into the James-Bosh-Wade-Boozer group. I really don't know a ton about his situation, to be completely honest. He wasn't exactly on my radar during this past offseason. I threw him in there because he is a part of that 'draft class' of players that have pretty much turned the league upside down.
Paul went through a thing at the beginning of the season where he was putting pressure on the Hornets, saying that he may be looking elsewhere. It is just uncanny to me. Literally almost all of the best players in the league have either left the teams that drafted them or are on the hunt for new ones. And, these aren't veterans.... Young guys, some of whom haven't even entered their prime, making demands, getting highly respected coaches fired and keeping their franchises guessing at all times.
If Melo was the only one, then no... It wouldn't be a big deal. It is taking a step back and looking at the league as a whole.
Obviously, what Williams has done goes beyond the others this season (so far), but that doesn't make this movement any less scary for someone that loved the way that the NBA used to be.
The Cavs may have the No. 1 pick in this coming draft and, although it clearly isn't a strong year, we are going to be in a position to get a potentially good player. My biggest concern isn't the Cavaliers making the right choice... it is picking a guy that won't hold the franchise hostage and then bolt. That isn't how a sports fan should have to approach a draft.
It should be about potential, not potential d0uchbaggery.
[quote]It isn't bad enough that the Superfriends have now joined together, but now you have Melo, CP3 and possibly DWill holding their franchises hostage while they do their little AAU dance.
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Paul, who never went to the media with anything, was playing on a team that had an FO made up of a GM(who was also the coach to save money despite no experience) and and just two "scouts" (they were brothers) who didn't travel, and one of the most hated and stingy owners in league history. Before the summer he didn't complain. Since the new GM/Coach/general overhaul he has not had anything but positive things to say. Hard to complain about him unless you think he shouldn't be friends with other NBA players.
[QUOTE=bagelred]When will the Utah Jazz coaching revolving door end? This team needs some stability.[/QUOTE]
It's madness I tell you.
MADNESS!
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Maybe Amare didn't fit into the James-Bosh-Wade-Boozer group. I really don't know a ton about his situation, to be completely honest. He wasn't exactly on my radar during this past offseason. I threw him in there because he is a part of that 'draft class' of players that have pretty much turned the league upside down.
Paul went through a thing at the beginning of the season where he was putting pressure on the Hornets, saying that he may be looking elsewhere. It is just uncanny to me. Literally almost all of the best players in the league have either left the teams that drafted them or are on the hunt for new ones. And, these aren't veterans.... Young guys, some of whom haven't even entered their prime, making demands, getting highly respected coaches fired and keeping their franchises guessing at all times.
If Melo was the only one, then no... It wouldn't be a big deal. It is taking a step back and looking at the league as a whole.
Obviously, what Williams has done goes beyond the others this season (so far), but that doesn't make this movement any less scary for someone that loved the way that the NBA used to be.
The Cavs may have the No. 1 pick in this coming draft and, although it clearly isn't a strong year, we are going to be in a position to get a potentially good player. My biggest concern isn't the Cavaliers making the right choice... it is picking a guy that won't hold the franchise hostage and then bolt. That isn't how a sports fan should have to approach a draft.
It should be about potential, not potential d0uchbaggery.[/QUOTE]
Paul was in a situation where it looked like the owner couldn't afford to spend anythign and had started selling off assets and he expressed concern. Soon after they met with him and he shut up. If you want the players to play and never say a word and not care if they are stuck in a place they don't want to be or care if the teams they are on suck and have no chance of getting better than you might want to stick to video games because you want robots, not people.
Because a few players (ie Lebron) acted like douchebags doesn't mean all future players should forgo free agency.
Jerry Sloan doesn't want to coach anymore, yet the Jazz want the stability of having Jerry Sloan as their coach?
The only compromise solution is for new head coach Tyrone Corbin to officially change his legal name to "Jerry Sloan". I think it just might work.
If George Karl steps down after the Nuggets get beat by Dallas tonight, I will be one happy man. Please God let this happen.
Jerry Sloan is probably the one reason I wish the Jazz had beaten the Bulls one of those finals.
Always dug the guy.
I hope he takes a bit of time off for fishing and snorting coke off of hookers' asses in Vegas, then finds another team and coaches them to a ring in his first year there.
Or maybe joins the UFC and wins the middleweight championship belt by being the first man to knock out Anderson Silva.
WAR Jerry Sloan!
Anybody want D-Will? He's not going to be welcome in Utah anymore. What an idiot.
[QUOTE=gilalizard]It's madness I tell you.
MADNESS![/QUOTE]
I know Jerry Sloan from some veeery shady forum with car and food pornography. His nicname is IDevourFoods, and these things don't go well with the mormons.. Who probably got him to resign. Sloan Cookie loved British chefs.
Out of left field, but if Deron Williams and management start to get into a situation where Deron leaves or wants to be traded, I think a good trade down the line would be: Deron for Stephen Curry, Ekpe Udoh or Deron for Kevin Martin and another talent on the Rockets. Kevin Martin is a very good SG, something we've rarely had in our existence, and I think Stephen Curry is a talent that could potentially be up to the level Deron could be at if he lives up to the hype and the injuries tone down.
Out of left field, but if the situation was to get rocky enough to where we would want to trade him like the Melo situation, those would be some solid options IMO.
[QUOTE=PrimeJohnnyDepp]I know Jerry Sloan from some veeery shady forum with car and food pornography. His nicname is IDevourFoods, and these things don't go well with the mormons.. Who probably got him to resign. Sloan Cookie loved British chefs.[/QUOTE]
The past is a vicious mistress and she spares no one, not even car buffs and foodies.
Another of the top 3 coaches has resigned... Pat Riley, now Jerry Sloan and soon to be Phil Jackson.
[QUOTE=UtahJazzFan88]Out of left field, but if Deron Williams and management start to get into a situation where Deron leaves or wants to be traded, I think a good trade down the line would be: Deron for Stephen Curry, Ekpe Udoh or Deron for Kevin Martin and another talent on the Rockets. Kevin Martin is a very good SG, something we've rarely had in our existence, and I think Stephen Curry is a talent that could potentially be up to the level Deron could be at if he lives up to the hype and the injuries tone down.
Out of left field, but if the situation was to get rocky enough to where we would want to trade him like the Melo situation, those would be some solid options IMO.[/QUOTE]
Good Idea.
I think it would be fair enough for the Jazz if they can get both K. Martin and Steph Curry.
[QUOTE=dbugz]Good Idea.
I think it would be fair enough for the Jazz if they can get both K. Martin and Steph Curry.[/QUOTE]
If we could get both Kevin Martin and Stephen Curry, we could do some damage. I doubt that's going to happen though.
What, get rid of Deron Williams.
shocked to hear about this
damn it's a sad day for the league he will surely be missed. kinda werid ending his coaching career in the middle of the season.
Deron Williams was able to unseat Sloan? We need to send him to Egypt. Maybe he can get rid of Mubarak.
Man I'm sad :cry:
I know it's only basketball, but I felt that if there were two things I could take to the bank and those were that tomorrow the sun was going to rise and that Jerry Sloan was going to be the coach of the Jazz.
I hope there is a sunrise tomorrow.
If it really was a dispute between the two, id honestly rather trade Deron..
Hes been playing pretty crap lately, and his trade value is high. Im not a fan of the Jazz at all, but I know Sloan is an amazing coach:cheers: I used to hate him when they were going up against the bulls in the 90s:lol
Good coaches like that are hard to come by, I never really felt like Deron was "fitting" into the system either. Its not like they have had that great a sucess lately aswell...
the truth is, this all boils down to sloan's jealousy of deron's hair
[IMG]http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8141/deronsloan.jpg[/IMG]
I'm bracing myself for some wonderful times in Jazzland. It's going to be just like LeBron's last year in Cleveland. The Jazz front office is going to have their tongue up Deron's as[I]s[/I] so far, they'll be licking his kidneys, and he's still gonna leave in 2012. And we'll all feel just as abused as the Cavs fans.
But hey, at least the Jazz players will be rocking headbands, right?
Oh, and here's a wonderful little factoid for all those who think Coach Sloan wasn't all that great.
He's won 1221 games as a coach. That's more than 8 NBA franchises have ever won. The Clippers have been in the league for 40(forty!) years and have won 1195 games.
[QUOTE=gorbo]the truth is, this all boils down to sloan's jealousy of deron's hair
[IMG]http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8141/deronsloan.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll:
haha, actually brought that up in the jazz v bulls gamethread. Deron looks fkn ridiculous with his hair/beard combo:lol
[QUOTE=dazzer87]same thing hes being doing all his career...playing good in the regular season and choking again in the playoff......:D[/QUOTE]
who Deron? um... have you watched him in any playoffs or even bother looking up his stats?
Jerry Sloan is the greatest coach to never win a ring. :bowdown:
[QUOTE=gts]Every jazz loss for the rest of the season will be on williams head... and seeing how jazz fans treat players they don't like this could get ugly[/QUOTE]
This is my fear. Inevitably, if the Jazz start to tank, Deron is going to shoulder almost all the blame. If they win however, things will be forgotten pretty fast.
[QUOTE=Rose]Correction: Jerry Sloan invented jiu jitsu[/QUOTE]
If Chuck Norris had a baby with Chuck Norris, that baby would be Jerry Sloan
[QUOTE=joshwake]If Chuck Norris had a baby with Chuck Norris, that baby would be Jerry Sloan[/QUOTE]
YES!!!! Someone knows this meme!:lol
This is from ESPN...so its easily predictable, and somewhat illogical, but I'll post it if anyone is interested (on the possibility of trading Williams this before the deadline)
Typical talk of Lakers, Knicks, Nets, Mavs but also mentions Warriors and Rockets
Sorry if already posted
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If the Jazz are convinced that Williams wants to bolt, regardless of the changes they make, or if they've grown tired of Williams, they could get proactive and try to trade him before the Feb. 24 trade deadline.
Usually, O'Connor is one of the league's most conservative GMs. But he's also a realist. He doesn't want to be in the same situation that the Cavs and Raptors endured. If the Jazz wait, and Williams remains unhappy, the team might lose most of its leverage in a trade -- just ask the Denver Nuggets as they deal with Carmelo Anthony.
As one of the top three point guards in the league, the 26-year-old Williams would draw plenty of interest. To start with, all the teams mentioned most prominently in the Melo pursuit -- the Knicks, Nets, Mavs, Rockets and Lakers -- would be interested, and most or perhaps all of those teams would have a good shot at signing Williams to a new contract.
In particular, the Knicks, according to sources, have Williams as a top priority, ahead of even Anthony and Chris Paul. New York could offer players such as Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari and Landry Fields, but the Jazz would likely hear better offers.
The Nets could offer Devin Harris, Derrick Favors and multiple first-round picks for Williams, as they did in the Anthony trade discussions. The Lakers could offer Andrew Bynum. The Rockets could offer a combo of Kevin Martin, Aaron Brooks, young players and picks. And though the Mavericks' lack of young assets could hurt their pursuit of Williams, owner Mark Cuban has often found a way to make a deal.
One sleeper would be the Golden State Warriors, who might be willing to offer Stephen Curry, lottery pick Ekpe Udoh and multiple first-round picks to pair Williams and Monta Ellis in the backcourt.
While perhaps none of the offers would be "equal value" per se for Williams, all of them would be better than the alternative of losing him for nothing
D-Will
CJ Miles
for
Steph Curry
Radmanovic
Biedrins
First rounder
I'd do this in a heartbeat. Works money-wise. I don't know about the Warriors fans, though.
Pretty standard from ESPN... Quick! Make a trade!!!
I basically ignore everything those retards have to say now:facepalm
Sloan loses his job; the NBA loses the battle
by Sam Smith
Sometimes you have an epiphany, and Jerry Sloan apparently had one Wednesday night when his Utah Jazz were losing to the Bulls. Jerry realized the inmates had taken over the asylum, and this time the guards weren
Wiliams is over rated. Hope Utah fails miserably. Reckon he is one of the least likeable players in the league.
[quote=Hammertime]Oh, and here's a wonderful little factoid for all those who think Coach Sloan wasn't all that great.
He's won 1221 games as a coach. That's more than 8 NBA franchises have ever won. The Clippers have been in the league for 40(forty!) years and have won 1195 games.[/quote]
That just proves Sloan was a bum.....only just better than the Clippers. What were the Jazz thinking keeping this guy around for so many years.
I actually can't wait for the game against Suns tonight, it would be interesting to see the aftermath