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[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;15013608]please stop playing chet over hartenstein....Why dont nba coaches like winning? Why can you see that he's not good vs turner and hartenstein is[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Manny98;15013607]2 more to go :rockon:[/QUOTE]
Game isn't over. Shhhh
How does Chet Holmgren ever get blocked by anyone? Anyone wondering why Wemby is seen as being so much greater of a talent, those two questions have the same answer. Not saying Holmgren sucks at all but that just shouldn't happen.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15013611]How does Chet Holmgren ever get blocked by anyone? Anyone wondering why Wemby is seen as being so much greater of a talent, those two questions have the same answer. Not saying Holmgren sucks at all but that just shouldn't happen.[/QUOTE]
He is 2 inches taller than Turner. And he should never get blocked? Ok.
[QUOTE=Meticode;15010741]Pacers in 7. They will go into OKC and get one of the first two games at least.[/QUOTE]
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There gonna be some angry folks after this one.
It's all good signs but I feel the championship is going to be won in game 4. The next game is IT!
[QUOTE=Full Court;15013612]He is 2 inches taller than Turner. And he should never get blocked? Ok.[/QUOTE]
It's insanely hard to block someone that tall shooting a three without fouling them.
Let's go Pacers!
:banana::hammertime::hammertime::dancin
That was an incredible game, really hope the Pacers can win 2 more.
Pacers are unbelievable
So this is what it feels like to root against haliburton.....its fking misersable. every pass im terrified. every time he touches the ball im terrified someone is going to get a wide open dunk or 3. this shit is awful. i will never disrespect him again
this shit is horrible. ive never felt this helpless rooting against anyone (except the kd warriors and they were a damn team not an indivual) and they play so fking random and fast......its just (exhales). i will never bet against this mf again. after this series.
This shit is so demoralizing losing to this team. How the fk do they win without a star. [B][SIZE=5]THIS SHIT IS KILLLING ME![/SIZE][/B]
Pacers winning the championship will change the trajectory of the NBA.
[QUOTE=Full Court;15013612]He is 2 inches taller than Turner. And he should never get blocked? Ok.[/QUOTE]
By a shorter man with a smaller wingspan while he's shooting a jumper? No, he should not. He needs to develop his body to be the kind of great offensive player his length athleticism and shooting skill should make him...but that's just a comment on his general talent level. Specific to the times he was blocked tonight, he should be able to shoot over Turner. Turner is a great shot blocker but we're talking about a 7-footer with a 7'6 wingspan. Only Wemby should be able to mess with him.
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle;15013622]Pacers winning the championship will change the trajectory of the NBA.[/QUOTE]
it would be for the best tbh.
Its like playing against basketball mahomes..thats what it is. basketball fking mahomes. this shit is horrible! hor...ri.....ble
HE is terrorizing the thunder defense....HOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE doesn't even ****ing score how!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
how!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
HOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EVERYTHING IS OPEN HOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWw
everyone is always ****ing open
Haliburton gonna make me rich :banana:
Amazing game. I couldn't look away
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle;15013622]Pacers winning the championship will change the trajectory of the NBA.[/QUOTE]
How so?
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle;15013622]Pacers winning the championship will change the trajectory of the NBA.[/QUOTE]
In what way though?
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;15010863]Pacers don't turn it over, they shoot well from 3, they are deep, and have one of the best coaches in the league.
Wolves played into OKCs strengths by being a dumb, high turnover team.
The Pacers are a smart team and were red hot for the last part of the season as well, they've been an elite team for several months now.
Based on what we've seen from both teams - this series should be a toss up.
I'll take OKC in 7.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;15010959]Agreed. Thunder in 7. An exciting matchup of offense and defense.[/QUOTE]
We're looking good right now. Only 34 turnovers in 2.5 games since the first half of G1. That's a rate of 13.6/g. More importantly, they've won the net turnover battle by +4. OKC feeds off defensive TOs, and they're not getting nearly as many as they'd like.
Pretty crazy that OKC has led for like 85% of the minutes played but are down 1-2. There still in a decent position to win though. Clearly a better team, but they choked twice. Chet got bodied by Myles Turner. If they win Game 4 though they're a huge favorite again.
OKC is giving me 2015 Warrior vibes, incredible regular season, MVP, first time in the Finals, and they're underperforming against a less talented team and find themselves down 2-1 in the Finals. Similarly to the Warriors, the stage seems a little too big for them right now, but I feel like the talent disparity isn't nearly as lopsided this time, so they'll have a tougher uphill battle.
Very good chance the winner of Game 4 claims the title.
[QUOTE=tpols;15013667]Pretty crazy that OKC has led for like 85% of the minutes played but are down 1-2. There still in a decent position to win though. Clearly a better team, but they choked twice. Chet got bodied by Myles Turner. If they win Game 4 though they're a huge favorite again.[/QUOTE]
It's because the Pacers wear them down and play harder for longer. Something they've done the whole playoffs.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15013685]OKC is giving me 2015 Warrior vibes, incredible regular season, MVP, first time in the Finals, and they're underperforming against a less talented team and find themselves down 2-1 in the Finals. Similarly to the Warriors, the stage seems a little too big for them right now, but I feel like the talent disparity isn't nearly as lopsided this time, so they'll have a tougher uphill battle.
Very good chance the winner of Game 4 claims the title.[/QUOTE]
This comparison is spot on.
Both were perfectly built as a team which led to a historic regular season
Both young and inexperienced
Both have the league MVP
Both have elite defenses
Both don't have that consistent #2 scorer
Mathurin with the massive game off the bench.
49-18 bench scoring for the Pacers in G3.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15013685]OKC is giving me 2015 Warrior vibes, incredible regular season, MVP, first time in the Finals, and they're underperforming against a less talented team and find themselves down 2-1 in the Finals. Similarly to the Warriors, the stage seems a little too big for them right now, but I feel like the talent disparity isn't nearly as lopsided this time, so they'll have a tougher uphill battle.
Very good chance the winner of Game 4 claims the title.[/QUOTE]
Only difference is LeBron James is on the other end not Haliburton.
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle;15013710]Only difference is LeBron James is on the other end not Haliburton.[/QUOTE]
Even with the Cavs having LeBron, Indy is a tougher opponent. The Cavs outside of LeBron that series were genuinely lottery level, the Pacers for sure have more talent and imo will be a tougher out the rest of the series. Once the Warriors inserted Iggy into the starting lineup and made adjustments, the series wasn't close the rest of the way.
Haliburton hasn't even been to the free throw line this series
He plays basketball the way it's supposed to be played which is why he's becoming one of my favourite players
No flopping, no antics, just straight team orientated basketball :applause:
SGA could never
[QUOTE=Manny98;15013753]Haliburton hasn't even been to the free throw line this series
He plays basketball the way it's supposed to be played which is why he's becoming one of my favourite players
No flopping, no antics, just straight team orientated basketball :applause:
SGA could never[/QUOTE]
Silver may be the devil and prefer one outcome over another for $ purposes, but Haliburton has surely earned favor of the Basketball Gods for his clean, honest style of play.
[QUOTE=tpols;15013758]Silver may be the devil and prefer one outcome over another for $ purposes, but Haliburton has surely earned favor of the Basketball Gods for his clean, honest style of play.[/QUOTE]
They're the most fun I have had watching a team since the 2014 Spurs :applause:
So refreshing to see
The Pacers have figured the Thunder out. Although the Thunder have led most of the way, the games are becoming more "even" with each game.
[QUOTE=JohnnySic;15013762]The Pacers have figured the Thunder out. Although the Thunder have led most of the way, the games are becoming more "even" with each game.[/QUOTE]
I would say figured them out. They probably led for a total of 20+ minutes in 3 games played.
[QUOTE=JohnnySic;15013762][B][SIZE=5]The Pacers have figured the Thunder out.[/SIZE][/B] Although the Thunder have led most of the way, the games are becoming more "even" with each game.[/QUOTE]
*Rick Carlisle
[QUOTE=Nowoco;15013655]How so?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=90sgoat;15013656]In what way though?[/QUOTE]
it's a copy cat league, if the pacers manage to beat OKC, other teams will use them as a blueprint to emulate. team oriented ball with 110% effort over having an mvp guard that hunts for fouls. it's fundamentals vs exploiting offensive rules. that's been the trend for a few years now since the league kept relaxing the offensive rules. what was once a travel isn't a travel anymore and creating contact by launching your body into a defender is an immediate trip to the free throw line (shai).
[QUOTE=highwhey;15013773]it's a copy cat league, if the pacers manage to beat OKC, other teams will use them as a blueprint to emulate. team oriented ball with 110% effort over having an mvp guard that hunts for fouls. it's fundamentals vs exploiting offensive rules. that's been the trend for a few years now since the league kept relaxing the offensive rules. what was once a travel isn't a travel anymore and creating contact by launching your body into a defender is an immediate trip to the free throw line (shai).[/QUOTE]
Not buying this at all. There's going to be 7 different winners in 7 years, all very different teams playing different ways.
The Pacers have struck lightning in a bottle this year, getting hot at the right time and their confidence has increased with every series. I don't think this is a blueprint for anything or starting a trend. It starts and ends this season. They'll be a different winner next season. Likely OKC if they continue to choke this away.
[QUOTE=Manny98;15013760]They're the most fun I have had watching a team since the 2014 Spurs :applause:
So refreshing to see[/QUOTE]
Same :applause:
[QUOTE=Nowoco;15013655]How so?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nowoco;15013779]Not buying this at all. There's going to be 7 different winners in 7 years, all very different teams playing different ways.
The Pacers have struck lightning in a bottle this year, getting hot at the right time and their confidence has increased with every series. I don't think this is a blueprint for anything or starting a trend. It starts and ends this season. They'll be a different winner next season. Likely OKC if they continue to choke this away.[/QUOTE]
Maybe. or Maybe they have an injury and Boston implodes so the path becomes wide open again. Regardless, they are showing you don't need a superstar/mvp to make the finals.
[QUOTE=highwhey;15013782]Maybe. or Maybe they have an injury and Boston implodes so the path becomes wide open again. Regardless, they are showing you don't need a superstar/mvp to make the finals.[/QUOTE]
It's still very rare though, Indy is for sure an outlier in that regard. The only teams that made the Finals without a legitimate "superstar" the last decade were the Celtics & Suns, and the Celtics were stacked with high end talent. I would say 90-95% of the time a team with a top 5 player wins the title.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15013785]It's still very rare though, Indy is for sure an outlier in that regard. The only teams that made the Finals without a legitimate "superstar" the last decade were the Celtics & Suns, and the Celtics were stacked with high end talent. I would say 90-95% of the time a team with a top 5 player wins the title.[/QUOTE]
which shows a trend right? it means, it happening more often than before. why is that? because having a top 5 player doesn't hold the same value it once did unless you're talking about a truly generational player (lebron, jokic, curry). between injuries and how lax the offensive rules are, and the recent influx of overall talent, it's a more level playing field than ever before. i was thinking how booker was once a really good offensive player...now there's quite a few players equally or better than him offensively. the floor has been raised.