[QUOTE=A.M.G.]It probably will be changed to a flagrant 2.[/QUOTE]
I doubt it. We play Minnesota on Friday so I'm not too concerned anyway.
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[QUOTE=A.M.G.]It probably will be changed to a flagrant 2.[/QUOTE]
I doubt it. We play Minnesota on Friday so I'm not too concerned anyway.
[QUOTE=Allstar24]I doubt it. We play Minnesota on Friday so I'm not too concerned anyway.[/QUOTE]
that's the best team of 2009 :)
Bynum's play on Oden wasn't dirty, but it was DEFINITELY excessive force/physicality in the opening few minutes of a regular season game. Several people noted this in the game thread.
[QUOTE=Allstar24]I doubt it. We play Minnesota on Friday so I'm not too concerned anyway.[/QUOTE]hey man the wolves are playing great basketball! 8-2 in their last 10 i they've won like 3 in a row i think.
but to get back on topic: we need wallace :(
[QUOTE=Allstar24]Sorry to disappoint everyone but the league is not going to suspend Bynum for that flagrant foul, they can't be that soft :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Hey he only suffered a f*cking collapsed lung after the elbow went THROUGH his rib cage, I'd say that's "soft" :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=XxNeXuSxX]Hey he only suffered a f*cking collapsed lung after the elbow went THROUGH his rib cage, I'd say that's "soft" :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
A veteran like yourself should know its a waste of time trying to talk sense into Laker fanatics.
it certainly was a flagrant but I don't think it was something that was dirty or intended to injure the guy. None of the players got in a confrontation about it and Bynum looked over to help Wallace up for a second but realized he was hurting bad. I feel bad for that dude though, he plays hard and you could tell he was in a lot of pain. I hope he will be ok because the bobcats are starting to come around since the trade.
Here's the deal. If Crash just spun around and kinda fell over, all that would of been called is a shooting foul. There would of been no review or even talk about this foul. It was just a foul, where a player got hurt. It's called a freak accident. It happens.
If you show anyone a replay of that foul, and didn't show Crash moaning on the floor, people would just say it was a foul. Don't look at the outcome, look at the intent of the foul. Which was to reach across Bynum's body and get his arms in front of Crash.
If there were no injury there would be no talk on this.
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If there were no injury there would be no talk on this.[/QUOTE]
Yup. I was surprised at the time that he was taken out, I've seen players suffer much worse looking hits and pop up just fine. Weird stuff happens though.
[QUOTE=DTD]Here's the deal. If Crash just spun around and kinda fell over, all that would of been called is a shooting foul. There would of been no review or even talk about this foul. It was just a foul, where a player got hurt. It's called a freak accident. It happens.
If you show anyone a replay of that foul, and didn't show Crash moaning on the floor, people would just say it was a foul. Don't look at the outcome, look at the intent of the foul. Which was to reach across Bynum's body and get his arms in front of Crash.
If there were no injury there would be no talk on this.[/QUOTE]
Let's see, like I've already posted, Bynum did [B]NOT[/B] play the ball, and he went in with his elbow, not to mention, it seems as if he stepped on Crash' shoe as well, all these put together should warrant a suspension, but of course, it won't happen.
Hypothetically, if this was, let's say, Udonis Haslem didn't play the ball one bit and led with his elbow against an airborne Kobe or even Ariza, all of you would be calling for Haslem's head, and saying he should be suspended for more then just a game. :rolleyes:
Didn't KG earlier in the year get suspended a game for punching Bogut in the face? Well that didn't hurt Bogut and KG got suspended. I am trying to connect the dots here, but am having trouble. Maybe a Laker fan could help me. Bynum hurt Wallace badly, KG didn't hurt Bogut. KG got suspended, but Bynum won't? I think that bynum gets two games minimum for that viscious elbow. If KG got suspended for one, Bynum deserves at [B]least two[/B].
[QUOTE=Mdog1]Didn't KG earlier in the year get suspended a game for punching Bogut in the face? Well that didn't hurt Bogut and KG got suspended. I am trying to connect the dots here, but am having trouble. Maybe a Laker fan could help me. Bynum hurt Wallace badly, KG didn't hurt Bogut. KG got suspended, but Bynum won't? I think that bynum gets two games minimum for that viscious elbow. If KG got suspended for one, Bynum deserves at [B]least two[/B].[/QUOTE]
I don't recall that incident with KG and Bogut, but if it was a punch to the face, then that is a guaranteed one game suspension. Any punch thrown, whether or not it connects, is a minimum suspension.
Bynum shouldn't get injured because Crash got hurt, he should get suspended because he didn't play the ball and led with his elbow onto Crash, who was airborne and had no way of protecting himself.
Bynum didn't intentionally try to hurt Wallace, it was a hard foul and it warranted a flagrant 1. With that said, I wish Gerald a speedy recovery though and it was unfortunate that he got badly hurt.
Bynum is not a dirty player one bit, he is just trying to toughen up as our starting center in the post. Phil has been bickering at him all season long about toughening up inside.
[QUOTE=qrich]I don't recall that incident with KG and Bogut, but if it was a punch to the face, then that is a guaranteed one game suspension. Any punch thrown, whether or not it connects, is a minimum suspension.
Bynum shouldn't get injured because Crash got hurt, he should get suspended because he didn't play the ball and led with his elbow onto Crash, who was airborne and had no way of protecting himself.[/QUOTE]
The KG incident happened towards the beginning of the year. Any way two games is what he should get if not more. But because he is a Laker he will get one or none.
[QUOTE=Mdog1]The KG incident happened towards the beginning of the year. Any way two games is what he should get if not more. But because he is a Laker he will get one or none.[/QUOTE]
He isn't getting any or shouldn't. Look at the replay and quit being such a Cleveland homer. I know you're praying that a big part of our team misses games so you guys can possibly benefit from us losing a game or two.
But as Wallace was driving to the basket, Bynum put both of his hands up to try and stop Wallace and his right elbow hit Wallace in the rib. He didn't "elbow" him, his elbow clearly contacted his body without any intention to hurt the guy.
Seriously why I am even explaining this?
Go check out a youtube video of the incident, take off your homer glasses and actually evaluate the foul with no bias.
The refs even had to discuss if it was a flagrant foul or not, Bynum was also concerned about Wallace and extended his arm to him, before realizing he was seriously hurt.