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[QUOTE=Lebron23]LeBron said Check his Tattoos. And why are the Lakers fans hating on LeBron. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
He's the reigning League MVP.
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
Why should that matter? Kobe won the MVP last year and still got far more heat than Lebron ever has.
I also don't see much hate for Lebron in this thread.
Problem with Lebron is it all about the stats for him till he improves that mentality he will never win a ring no matter how much talent you surround him with.
[QUOTE=Hotshoot]Problem with Lebron is it all about the stats for him till he improves that mentality he will never win a ring no matter how much talent you surround him with.[/QUOTE]
If I am the Cavaliers General Manager I trade 1/2 of my team Roster just to acquire a major talent like Pau Gasol.
I hope that LeBron's sidekick is actually 2-3 years younger than him because the 2010's is going to be a very competitive era.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]If I am the Cavaliers General Manager I trade 1/2 of my team Roster just to acquire a major talent like Pau Gasol.
I hope that LeBron's sidekick is actually 2-3 years younger than him because the 2010's is going to be a very competitive era.[/QUOTE]
What if we gave you guy's Fisher and Bynum for Mo Williams?....Deal or no Deal?
[QUOTE=branslowski]What if we gave you guy's Fisher and Bynum for Mo Williams?....Deal or no Deal?[/QUOTE]
No way. Never.
[QUOTE=branslowski]What if we gave you guy's Fisher and Bynum for Mo Williams?....Deal or no Deal?[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Deal
[QUOTE=Lebron23]:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Deal[/QUOTE]
Then deal...Bynum avg 6ppg 4reb 40% in the Finals....I can't remember the last time a team won a Title with that kind of production from the starting Center....Maybe im just upset with Bynum atm....I do love Mo Williams....
[QUOTE=branslowski]Then deal...Bynum avg 6ppg 4reb 40% in the Finals....I can't remember the last time a team won a Title with that kind of production from the starting Center....Maybe im just upset with Bynum atm....I do love Mo Williams....[/QUOTE]
This has got to be a joke.
First off you trade a PG that can hit HUGE shots for one that goes brick in the playoffs.
Second of all, you trade away a 21 year old Center that has the tools and the body to be one of the best at his position....For a PG that was on a 66 win team and totally faded.
Other than LeBron, in my opinion Bynum is more talented than anyone on the Cavs roster.
Mo didn't play his role to try and beat the Magic. Bynum played his role to help beat the Magic.
Say bye-bye to team chemistry or a decent future.:ohwell:
[QUOTE=branslowski]Then deal...Bynum avg 6ppg 4reb 40% in the Finals....I can't remember the last time a team won a Title with that kind of production from the starting Center....Maybe im just upset with Bynum atm....I do love Mo Williams....[/QUOTE]
Bynum has more potential than Mo Williams. Before his injury he's putting up solid numbers in the Regular Season.
You know what we're experiencing here?
Basically its the same logic that Lakers fans have been TRYING to explain for years.
Kobe had a GARBAGE team prior to this one for years...yet they did alright, considering he had a team of Smush, Cook, and the rest of the Cosby Kids...
Yet we, as Laker fans were making up "excuses"
Then this year....with this loss....Its because Lebron has a cast of garbage....but this time, the logic is sound, and legitimate.
Oh how time changes things eh?
[QUOTE=oh the horror]You know what we're experiencing here?
Basically its the same logic that Lakers fans have been TRYING to explain for years.
Kobe had a GARBAGE team prior to this one for years...yet they did alright, considering he had a team of Smush, Cook, and the rest of the Cosby Kids...
Yet we, as Laker fans were making up "excuses"
Then this year....with this loss....Its because Lebron has a cast of garbage....but this time, the logic is sound, and legitimate.
Oh how time changes things eh?[/QUOTE]
Not close to being the same, those Laker teams never won 66 regular season games.
[QUOTE=oh the horror]You know what we're experiencing here?
Basically its the same logic that Lakers fans have been TRYING to explain for years.
Kobe had a GARBAGE team prior to this one for years...yet they did alright, considering he had a team of Smush, Cook, and the rest of the Cosby Kids...
Yet we, as Laker fans were making up "excuses"
Then this year....with this loss....Its because Lebron has a cast of garbage....but this time, the logic is sound, and legitimate.
Oh how time changes things eh?[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Fatal9]Shaq did it in less games. David Robinson got his 10000th point in 396 games so I guess he isn't included (lol). Wilt would have too if they counted blocks. Kareem too. Probably a lot more but don't feel like checking.[/QUOTE]
[B][U]Became the youngest player (23 years, 308 days) and fastest (395 games) to reach the following totals: 10,000 points + 2,500 rebounds + 2,500 assists + 700 steals + 300 blocks.[/U]
Fatal9 is full of sh!t again.
[COLOR="Navy"]David Robinson has 2441 assists in his entire career, so David Robinson NEVER reached that mark.
Shaq didn't crack the 2500 assist mark until the 2004-2005 season, Shaq just cracked the 700 steals mark last year.
Once again, Fatal9 proves his ability to post nothing but false material[/COLOR].[/B]
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[QUOTE=bruceblitz]I don't have a problem with it either....
[B]Let's check his stats:[/B]
04-05:
LeBron 27.2ppg 7.4reb 7.2ast 47%fg 2.2stl .7blk
05-06
LeBron 31.4ppg 7.0reb 6.6ast 48%fg 1.6stl .8blk
06-07
LeBron 27.3ppg 7.0reb 6.6ast 48%fg 1.6stl .8blk
07-08
LeBron 30.0ppg 7.9reb 7.2ast 48%fg 1.8stl 1.1blk
08-09
LeBron 28.4ppg 7.6reb 7.2ast 49%fg 1.7stl 1.1blk
Accumulated stats the last 5 years:
LeBron James 28.9ppg 7.3reb 6.9ast 48%fg 1.8stl .9blk
LeBron vs Orlando 2009 playoffs...38.5ppg 48.7%fg 8.3reb 8ast 1.16blk 1.16stl
Playoffs 2009: 35.3ppg 51%fg 9reb 7ast
LeBron's first 6 years in the NBA have been better than most all time great's primes. That's the difference between ranking LeBron as compared to other players, right from the start he's put up Hall of Fame performances night in and night out. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I came to my conclusions after over a year of contemplation. It wasn't like I just threw that list together. I made the best case I could for every single player, including Kobe, and I took LeBron's faults and shortcomings into mind as well. When you think about the fact that it took Jordan 11 seasons of playing most the year to finish top 10 in the MVP voting 11 times, and LeBron has already done that 6 times in 6 seasons, he's only 4 years away from matching a mark that Jordan posted over his entire career. I personally think a lot of people underrate LeBron because he's only 24. The type of production and level of greatness LeBron has produced in his first 6 years is the type of production you usually see during a legend's peak.
Became the youngest player in NBA history to score 11,000 points (23 years, 324 days) and 12,000 points (24 years, 35 days) during the season.
Became the youngest player (23 years, 308 days) and fastest (395 games) to reach the following totals: 10,000 points, 2,500 rebounds, 2,500 assists, 700 steals and 300 blocks.
Scored 41 points in three of the Cavs first eight games (41 vs. Chi on Nov. 5th and 8th and 41 vs. Milwaukee on Nov. 11th), becoming the first player since Michael Jordan in 1991 to score 40-or-more in at least three of a team's first eight games of a season.
With 38 points, seven rebounds, six assists, three blocks and four steals versus Boston on Jan. 9, he became the first person reach those numbers in a game since David Robinson on March 19, 1994.
Totaled 23 points, 15 rebounds, 11 assists and three blocks versus Sacramento on Jan. 27th, posting at least those numbers in a game since Larry Bird in 1987.
Tallied 33 points, 14 rebounds and nine assists on Jan. 24th at Utah, becoming the first player to record at least those numbers in a non-overtime game since Kevin Garnett in 2004.
At Madison Square Garden on Feb. 4th, James posted 52 points, nine rebounds, 11 assists and two blocks against the Knicks. The last player to have at least those numbers in a game was Wilt Chamberlain on March 18th, 1968. He joined Michael Jordan as the only two visitors to MSG to have multiple 50-point games.
Made a 2008-09 NBA season-high tying eight three-pointers on 11 attempts on his way to a season-best 55 points at Milwaukee on Feb. 20.
Became only the 12th player in NBA history to have three consecutive triple-doubles (March 7th, 10th and 12th).
Lead the Cavaliers in total points, rebounds assists, steals and blocks. He joins Kevin Garnett (MIN - 2002), Scottie Pippen (CHI -1994) and Dave Cowens (BOS - 1977) as the only players to accomplish that feat.
Posted 43 points, 12 rebounds, eight assists, four steals and a block versus Orlando on March 17th, joining Larry Bird in 1992 as the only players to record at least those numbers in a game.
With a PER ranking above 31.5, James is on pace to not only lead the league , but also have one of the top three seasons all-time (Michael Jordan currently owns the top four seasons: 1987-91).
Is the only active player in the NBA to have five consecutive seasons with at least 2,000 points and became just the ninth in NBA history, joining legends Kareem Abdul-Jabar, George Gervin, Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlin, Dominique Wilkins, Oscar Robertson, Alex English and Karl Malone all-time.
With his fourth season of at least 2,000 points, 500 rebounds and 500 assists, James became the 2nd player in NBA history (Oscar Robertson) to post at least those numbers in four seasons or more.
LeBron James finished March with 479 points, 152 rebounds and 143 assists. The only other player in NBA history to reach each of those totals in one month is Oscar Robertson, who did it in eight separate months, most recently in January 1965.
[B]That's a nice resume.[/B][/QUOTE]
Stats don't equal rings.
[QUOTE=chopchop20]Stats don't equal rings.[/QUOTE]
Wow, are you serious?
LeBron = Peyton Manning of the NBA
Putting up the best numbers in the game, when he has a true team of contenders around him who can beat the top level teams, he will win a championship, just the same as Peyton Manning when the Colts finally put a defense on the field.