So sad watching Steve Nash cry after Lakers eliminated Suns

[QUOTE=OmniStrife]Defense wins championships, sure... But not PG defense.
PG has 1000000000 times more impact on offense or not.[/QUOTE]


Why?

Because you say so?

Because that theory is necessary to facilitate all this Nash love?

PG defense is very important.

If you can slow down the opposing team's PG....make him set up the offense early of make it difficult to get to the right sp9ots and cause turnovers before the team gets it's offense started that is a big advantage.

And if your PG can't keep the OPPOSING TEAM'S PG out of the lane and it gets your bigs in foul trouble that is a big problem.

Stop kidding yourself.

[QUOTE=plowking]Yet Nash in terms of raw numbers and production doesn't give up the most out of PG's. Kidd, Billups and even Rondo give up more on defense.[/QUOTE]


Whatn numbers?

Throw out Kidd because he should have retired a couple years back imo.

Prove to me that Steve Nash is a better defensive PG than Rondo by numbers.

[QUOTE=Go Getter]Whatn numbers?

Throw out Kidd because he should have retired a couple years back imo.

Prove to me that Steve Nash is a better defensive PG than Rondo by numbers.[/QUOTE]

Go to 82games, and look at the production of Nash's opponents and any other PG you want.

[QUOTE=Go Getter]Why?

Because you say so?
[/QUOTE]

Oh the irony... :oldlol:

[QUOTE=plowking]Go to 82games, and look at the production of Nash's opponents and any other PG you want.[/QUOTE]


I don't know about this....I don't use reference that reference site or whatever.

So you mean to tell me that if I go there it will say that Nash is a better defensive PG than Rondo?

[QUOTE=plowking]Oh the irony... :oldlol:[/QUOTE]


No irony.

Any coach or player worth his salt will tell you that defense is they key to being a champion.

You notice even the NBA commercials have a DEFENSE theme.

There is not jumpshot, 3 pointer, or 3 point play themed commercial.

One case where a commercial got things right:oldlol:

[QUOTE=Go Getter]I don't know about this....I don't use reference that reference site or whatever.

So you mean to tell me that if I go there it will say that Nash is a better defensive PG than Rondo?[/QUOTE]

Raw numbers aren't everything, though it clearly goes to show how much you overrate Nash's deficiencies.

[QUOTE=plowking]Raw numbers aren't everything, though it clearly goes to show how much you overrate Nash's deficiencies.[/QUOTE]


What? I asked a simple question.

I understand raw numbers aren't everything.

I was just trying to see what you were saying.

So can I get an answer?

[QUOTE=Go Getter]What? I asked a simple question.

I understand raw numbers aren't everything.

I was just trying to see what you were saying.

So can I get an answer?[/QUOTE]

It doesn't say anything about who's a better defender. It shows numbers as to who gives up more on defense.

[QUOTE=plowking]It doesn't say anything about who's a better defender. It shows numbers as to who gives up more on defense.[/QUOTE]


Pish Posh....of course...you know what I mean.

Help me see what you've seen.

[url]http://82games.com/[/url]

viola. Click on the teams on the left hand side and enjoy.

[QUOTE=Go Getter]No irony.

Any coach or player worth his salt will tell you that defense is they key to being a champion.

You notice even the NBA commercials have a DEFENSE theme.

There is not jumpshot, 3 pointer, or 3 point play themed commercial.

One case where a commercial got things right:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Talking to you is worse than talking to a wall...
Defense is important, maybe most important.
But it means nothing for a PG.
D. Fisher is a good defender?? Or rondo from 08??

Show me one game during the playoffs other than game 1 vs. the Blazers where Nash hurt his team defensively. Heck look for it in the entire season.

He carried his team to the WCF, yet your defensive PG Kidd didn't do shit to help his team.

PG's offense >>>>>>>>> PG's defense.

Also stats show that Nash's pts allowance for his opp, is one of the lowest ones in the league.

[QUOTE=OmniStrife]Talking to you is worse than talking to a wall...
Defense is important, maybe most important.
But it means nothing for a PG.

PG's offense >>>>>>>>> PG's defense.[/QUOTE]

You are wrong.

[QUOTE=Go Getter]You are wrong.[/QUOTE]
Good argument there. :applause:

[QUOTE=Go Getter]: You sound JUST like a female.[/QUOTE]

And that's a BAD thing???????????? Us females don't have nearly enough testosterone to have screwed up the world like you males have so there could be lots worse than sounding like a woman. :lol: