Re: Exposing the Fallacies of Science/Atheist-ism & Proving Intelligent Design!
[QUOTE=boozehound]can you bother to read any of the wiki links I provided? Fact means basic observable data in 99% of scientific usages. OK? Jebus Christo
besides, the way that fool tennesseefan was using it was entirely inconsistent with either proposed usage. so, he still needs to quit using it/modify how he uses it.[/QUOTE]
No, because I know for an absolute "fact" that you're wrong.
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so, you agree jello, evolution is a fact as laid out under the above criteria?
Re: Exposing the Fallacies of Science/Atheist-ism & Proving Intelligent Design!
[QUOTE=boozehound]so, you agree jello, evolution is a fact as laid out under the above criteria?[/QUOTE]
I accept evolution as the change in allele frequencies in a population from one generation to the next.
This is a fact.
Re: Exposing the Fallacies of Science/Atheist-ism & Proving Intelligent Design!
[QUOTE=Jello]No, because I know for an absolute "fact" that you're wrong.[/QUOTE]
really? SO, he was using it to refer to evolution or gravity as fact? Or he was describing an observational data point? Uhm, no.
Sure, 1% of the time, the term fact means a highly tested and well grounded theory or law. the rest of the time, it means a direct observation. Which, cant actually be made due to our need for sensory perception to perceive or record anything!
Happy now? Jebus, you sure to like to nitpick a point. and thats saying something coming from me.
Re: Exposing the Fallacies of Science/Atheist-ism & Proving Intelligent Design!
[QUOTE=boozehound]really? SO, he was using it to refer to evolution or gravity as fact? Or he was describing an observational data point? Uhm, no.
[B]Sure, 1% of the time, the term fact means a highly tested and well grounded theory or law. [/B] the rest of the time, it means a direct observation. Which, cant actually be made due to our need for sensory perception to perceive or record anything!
Happy now? Jebus, you sure to like to nitpick a point. and thats saying something coming from me.[/QUOTE]
So this directly contradicts your original statement.:facepalm
Re: Exposing the Fallacies of Science/Atheist-ism & Proving Intelligent Design!
[QUOTE=Jello]I accept evolution as the change in allele frequencies in a population from one generation to the next.
This is a fact.[/QUOTE]
but you do not accept differential breeding and phenotypic variation in a population drive those changes? Really?
Re: Exposing the Fallacies of Science/Atheist-ism & Proving Intelligent Design!
[QUOTE=boozehound]but you do not accept differential breeding and phenotypic variation in a population drive those changes? Really?[/QUOTE]
That's not evolution... Those are the supposed mechanisms that drive evolution.:facepalm
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Booze, I think you're the one that needs to brush up on the terminology.
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[QUOTE=Jello]How is it mediocre? Please inform me.[/QUOTE]
I said everything is mediocre.
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[QUOTE=Jackass18]I said everything is mediocre.[/QUOTE]
How is DNA replication mediocre? Answer the question please.
Re: Exposing the Fallacies of Science/Atheist-ism & Proving Intelligent Design!
[QUOTE=Jello]How is DNA replication mediocre? Answer the question please.[/QUOTE]
I said everything is mediocre based upon observation and experience. Why are you trying to make an argument that's not there?
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[QUOTE=Jackass18]I said everything is mediocre based upon observation and experience. Why are you trying to make an argument that's not there?[/QUOTE]
Dumbest poster on this board.:facepalm
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[QUOTE=Jello]Dumbest poster on this board.:facepalm[/QUOTE]
LOL, you're not making any kind of sense and yet I'm the dumbest poster on this board? You have 0 idea of what you're arguing about, and yet you're trying to make some sort of stupidass argument that's not even there, but I'm the dummy? GTFO please. Seriously, you're arguing for the sake of it, but you don't have a clue about what you're even arguing.
Re: Exposing the Fallacies of Science/Atheist-ism & Proving Intelligent Design!
[QUOTE=Jackass18]LOL, you're not making any kind of sense and yet I'm the dumbest poster on this board? You have 0 idea of what you're arguing about, and yet you're trying to make some sort of stupidass argument that's not even there, but I'm the dummy? GTFO please. Seriously, you're arguing for the sake of it, but you don't have a clue about what you're even arguing.[/QUOTE]
Explain to me how DNA replication is shoddy and mediocre and stop playing with words.
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I was going off on a bit of a tangent and not specifically calling out 'DNA replication'. I'm talking about all of 'God's work'. If this is all God's work, then he made some shoddy products and a mediocre universe. According to the OP, God has such attributes as: omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence, but this is what we have? All these flaws in a ****ed up world? Couldn't he have done better? What, did you want me to comment about mutation? If the process (DNA replication) is near perfect as they say it is, then in comparison to most things it's not shoddy, but I guess you were just looking to nitpick about something.