Wade or Iverson?

[QUOTE=ThaSwagg3r]If Dwyane Wade played in the early 2000s he would put up 50-55 points with 55-57% shooting. Play all the hypotheticals you want.[/QUOTE]
Iverson put up 33 points on 45% in 06 when the rules were soft he was 30 years old

[QUOTE=rodman91]Rings doesn't reliable for players like Iverson.

He played mostly with average or below average players and coaches in his prime. Only players can be considered as really good was 34-35 years old Mutombo and coach L.Brown. He won MVP,reached finals and heroic games in all playoffs and finals. When you look at players with rings..you see usually other great players around them.From Russell to Jordan, from Kobe to Wade. Kobe,Wade,Garnett,Lebron,Jordan,Wilt without great players couldn't win championship.It's no brainer.

[B]Wade played with 32 years old Shaq with Pat Riley as coach. Now he is playing with 26 years old Lebron and 27 years old Bosh. Shaq was still considered best center in those years. Lebron is considered as best player in the league and Chris Bosh considered as franchise player[/B].

Iverson played with mostly below average teammates and coaches but one great center while Wade has played probably 2 of top ten players of all time so far.[/QUOTE]

:sleeping Iverson was able to work with Larry Brown "HOF coach", George Karl "HOF Coach", Melo"Top 5 scorer", Mutombo "DPOY", and was traded to a team that won 59 games before he was traded there. Not to mention that the Sixers that people said he completely carried were above .500 without him including a solid win vs the Jazz IN Utah

[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200012260UTA.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Ikill]Iverson put up 33 points on 45% in 06 when the rules were soft he was 30 years old[/QUOTE]
And his team didn't even make the playoffs...... :oldlol:

What did he put up in 04-05? 42% shooting.
06-07? 44% shooting

So he has one or two seasons shooting 45% or higher, big deal. Wade has shot that literally his entire career.

This isn't close and if you think so then you are a moron. Iverson did nothing better than Wade did. Nothing.

[QUOTE=Borderlands]Wade improved on Iverson's imprint on the League. Wade is so much more unselfish then Iverson. But if there was no Iverson there will be no Wade.[/QUOTE]

What makes Iverson selfish? Because he wasn't feeding Matt Geiger in the post every single trip down the court? Because he didn't swing the ball around to Aaron McKie waiting in the wings? Seriously who would blame AI for taking 30 shots a game when your teammates are Tyron Hill, George Lynch, and Eric Snow?

[QUOTE=Ikill]Iverson put up 33 points on 45% in 06 when the rules were soft he was 30 years old[/QUOTE]

lol and didnt make the playoffs.:lol

players aren't in their primes when they reach 30?

[QUOTE=ThaSwagg3r]And his team didn't even make the playoffs...... :oldlol:

What did he put up in 04-05? 42% shooting.
06-07? 44% shooting

So he has one or two seasons shooting 45% or higher, big deal. Wade has shot that literally his entire career.

This isn't close and if you think so then you are a moron. Iverson did nothing better than Wade did. Nothing.[/QUOTE]

Iverson played basketball better than Wade. That's about it. Take Wade out of today's rules, have him play 43 MPG with no one to pass to, and let's see what his AVG and FG% are.

[QUOTE=ThaSwagg3r]And his team didn't even make the playoffs...... :oldlol:

What did he put up in 04-05? 42% shooting.
06-07? 44% shooting

So he has one or two seasons shooting 45% or higher, big deal. Wade has shot that literally his entire career.

This isn't close and if you think so then you are a moron. Iverson did nothing better than Wade did. Nothing.[/QUOTE]

Iverson better @ shooting from deep.

thats pretty much it. and overall ball handing

[QUOTE=Kevin_Gamble]Iverson played basketball better than Wade. That's about it. Take Wade out of today's rules, have him play 43 MPG with no one to pass to, and let's see what his AVG and FG% are.[/QUOTE]
I have already seen him do that from 2008-2010.

You wanna know what his numbers were?

08-09 - 30 ppg, 8 apg, 5 rpg, 2.2 spg, 1.3 bpg, with 49% shooting
09-10 - 27 ppg, 7 apg, 5 rpg, 1.8 spg, 1.1 bpg with 48% shooting


Yeah thats what I thought.

[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]Iverson better @ shooting from deep.

thats pretty much it. and overall ball handing[/QUOTE]

and is a much better midrange shooter

[QUOTE=ThaSwagg3r]And his team didn't even make the playoffs...... :oldlol:

What did he put up in 04-05? 42% shooting.
06-07? 44% shooting

So he has one or two seasons shooting 45% or higher, big deal. Wade has shot that literally his entire career.

This isn't close and if you think so then you are a moron.[B] Iverson did nothing better than Wade did. Nothing.[/B][/QUOTE]
No. AI was the crossover master. Iverson revolutionized the scoring point guard era.

As of right now, Wade is a more complete player than Iverson and just more well rounded. Wade can also play much bigger. I'll give a slight edge to Wade atm.

But don't act like it isn't close. Because prime Iverson was ballin.

[IMG]http://sportsofboston.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Iverson_12_9_10.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]:sleeping Iverson was able to work with Larry Brown "HOF coach", George Karl "HOF Coach", Melo"Top 5 scorer", Mutombo "DPOY", and was traded to a team that won 59 games before he was traded there. Not to mention that the Sixers that people said he completely carried were above .500 without him including a solid win vs the Jazz IN Utah

[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200012260UTA.html[/url][/QUOTE]

Miami Shaq was still superior than Philly Mutombo.
Lebron & Bosh combo superior than Melo.
Riley has superior career to Brown&Karl.
Philly has never able to be as good team as early 00's.What's their playoff success then?

They win one regular season game against Jazz and is it suppose to mean they were good? Cavs won some games without James.It didn't help all season though.

Wade won a ring albeit with another Hall of Famer.
Not that it matters much but did Wade get a MVP trophy?

Hmm...The stats are close but much respect goes to Allen Illy in Philly.

[QUOTE=AngelEyes]Wade by a country mile. Wade is a far better all around player than Iverson and much more efficient. I don't really buy the argument that Iverson was a much better scorer than Wade. I think that Wade is a much more willing passer than Iverson and could have averaged similar points if he increased his shots. Wade is on a different level.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

[QUOTE=Unstoppabull]No. AI was the crossover master. Iverson revolutionized the scoring point guard era. As of right now, Wade is a more complete player than Iverson and just more well rounded. Wade can also play much bigger. I'll give a slight edge to Wade atm. But don't act like it isn't close. Because prime Iverson was ballin.[/QUOTE]

Iverson is much harder to build around. He's man to man defense isnt anything special and extremely inefficient.