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[QUOTE=adamcz]I don't mind you being in a wheelchair as long as you don't wheel your gimp ass around in front of me. Just do it in the privacy of your home.[/QUOTE]
I lol'd. If we still had reputation, I would + you so hard it'd make your teeth rattle.
Stern says Tim Hardaway no longer represents the NBA. Does this take away hi chances at beiing elected to the Hall of Fame.
Also supposedly Tim was goin to be part in All-Star Weekend in Vegas. Until he made his "Hate Gay" remarks. Does anyone know what he was supposed tp participate in.
1. In the USA we do have the right to free speech... and in turn you must except the repurcussions of exercising your rights, good luck finding a job Hardaway you just took yourself out of the publics eye...
2. Using the Bible to reinforce your argument is lame, this is a subject of social acceptance and not one of morals... If you try and turn it into a moralality discussion then your use of the Bible goes against it's own teachings, add to that the fact that the Bible is not the #1 authority on morality...
We are in the year 2007 and I find it astonishing that the venom spewed on this site by some people still exists, but that is your right to spwe it and yours to suffer the repercussions of...
wang4three, well spoken, I have a new respect for you...
[QUOTE]Does anyone know what he was supposed tp participate in.[/QUOTE]
He and the world's nine most intelligent non-human primates were going to have a contest wherein we find out who can succesfully string together four complete sentences the fastest.
[QUOTE=VCDrivesAPorscheToWork]and a note to those who are piously devoted to the Book of Leviticus:
yes according to the Bible is homosexuality and sodomy are both sins and wrong. but God also teaches you not to take thinsg into your own hand and actively persecute others. he teaches that you should be moral and good and that He will take care of the sinners when the Judgment Day comes.
[B]now the Koran on the other hand actively preaches killing all infidels.[/B][/QUOTE]
There's plenty I disagree with in the Qur'an, but this is just silly.
[quote] 5:82. " . . . and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: 'We are Christians.' That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud."
So the Quran not only does not urge Muslims to commit violence against Christians, it calls them "nearest in love" to the Muslims! The reason given is their piety, their ability to produce holy persons dedicated to God, and their lack of overweening pride.
The tendency when reading the Quran is to read a word like "kafir" (infidel) as referring to all non-Muslims. But it is clear from a close study of the way the Quran uses the word that it refers to those who actively oppose and persecute Muslims. The word literally meant "ingrate" in ancient Arabic. So the polytheists ("mushrikun") who tried to wipe out Islam were the main referents of the word "infidel." Christians, as we see above, were mostly in a completely different category. The Christian Ethiopian monarch gave refuge to the Muslims at one point when things got hot in Mecca. The Quran does at one point speak of the "infidels" among the Jews and Christians (2:105: "those who committed kufr/infidelity from among the people of the Book.") But this verse only proves that it did not think they were all infidels, and it is probably referring to specific Jewish and Christian groups who joined with the Meccans in trying to wipe out the early Muslim community. (The Quran calls Jews and Christians "people of the book" because they have a monotheistic scripture).
People often also ask me about this verse:
[5:51] O you who believe, do not take Jews and Christians as friends; these are friends of one another. Those among you who ally themselves with these belong with them.
This is actually not a good translation of the original, which has a very specific context. In the Arabia of Muhammad's time, it was possible for an individual to become an honorary member or "client" of a powerful tribe. But of course, if you did that you would be subordinating yourself politically to that tribe. The word used in Arabic here does not mean "friend." It means "political patron" (wali). What the Quran is trying to do is to discourage stray Muslims from subordinating themselves to Christian or Jewish tribes that might in turn ally with pagan Mecca, or in any case might have interests at odds with those of the general Muslim community.
So the verse actually says:
[5:51] O you who believe, do not take Jews and Christians as tribal patrons; these are tribal patrons of one another. Those among you who become clients of these belong with them.
Since the Quran considers Christians nearest in love to Muslims, it obviously does not have an objection to friendship between the two. But apparently now it is some Christians who have that hateful attitude, of no friendship with "infidels."
[url]http://www.juancole.com/2006/03/bigotry-toward-muslims-and-anti-arab.html[/url]
more at [url]http://www.juancole.com/2006/03/peace-and-love-in-quran-list-of.html[/url] (The Qu'ran on Peace)[/quote]
[QUOTE=saKf]He and the world's nine most intelligent non-human primates were going to have a contest wherein we find out who can succesfully string together four complete sentences the fastest.[/QUOTE]
I heard a few of them pulled out after they were told they cannot use the same sentence more than once.
[QUOTE=reppy]There's plenty I disagree with in the Qur'an, but this is just silly.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, reppy.
I'm a Christian, but let's not be ridiculous about Islam.
The people that we hear about (killing people and blowing stuff up) are a hyper-conservative minority.
In fact, we have our own little version of these people right here in the United States.
They're called the Ku Klux Klan.
Islamic extremist is to Islam as KKK is to Christianity.
It doesn't stop there. "Christians" who vandalize abortion clinics, etc.
[QUOTE=saKf]Thank you, reppy.
I'm a Christian, but let's not be ridiculous about Islam.
The people that we hear about (killing people and blowing stuff up) are a hyper-conservative minority.
In fact, we have our own little version of these people right here in the United States.
They're called the Ku Klux Klan.
Islamic extremist is to Islam as KKK is to Christianity.[/QUOTE]
VCDrivesAPorsche has this habit of saying something entirely reasonable, and then following it up with an outrageous comment that he probably only read second hand somewhere.
[QUOTE=reppy]I heard a few of them pulled out after they were told they cannot use the same sentence more than once.[/QUOTE]
It's not like any of them would have been able to repeat the same sentence four times anyway...
[QUOTE=saKf]He and the world's nine most intelligent non-human primates were going to have a contest wherein we find out who can succesfully string together four complete sentences the fastest.[/QUOTE]
are patrick ewing and bobby jackson involved in this as well?
[QUOTE=SRZ66]are patrick ewing and bobby jackson involved in this as well?[/QUOTE]
Non-human primates. So just Ewing.
Hardaway is a fool. "I hate gay people" Who the hell says that on radio?
[QUOTE=loot]lets see how admirable you'd think it was if matt carroll said the same things about black people, or lebron about white people. all hell would break loose.[/QUOTE]
Homosexuality is a choice. It is not something that you are born with. A person can't do anything about their skin color (well, at least without looking like a jackass). The situations are not comparable.
[QUOTE=BlackMoses]Homosexuality is a choice. It is not something that you are born with. A person can't do anything about their skin color (well, at least without looking like a jackass). The situations are not comparable.[/QUOTE]
Most gays I've ever spoke with said they knew from an early age that there was something different about them.
I mean dude, in 2nd grade I was already fantasizing about women's boobs and receiving oral sex from them. And I have no idea how I even got those ideas. When you're a heterosexual guy, it just comes naturally, I guess.
When you're straight, certain things just seem like a good idea. Like having a girl's mouth on your wiener.
[QUOTE=Rasheed1]Tim Hardaway has a right to his opinion and Im assuming he was asked about it..
But he should understand that the tone of his comments does more to hurt him than anything else..[/QUOTE]
He is entitled to his opinion. But so are racists, and sexists, and xenophobes. It doesnt mean I have to respect the person or their opinion.
If he had said "I would not be comfortable having a gay man on my team and in my locker room", this wouldnt be an issue. He said "I hate gays". Thats the issue. He used an excessively strong word and hes getting backlash. Hes entitled to his opinion and Im entitled to my opinion that he is a giant pile of homophobic sheite.
Reppy, thank you for clarifying the misstatement by VC. People who know so little about a religion are generally the first to make ignorant statements about it.