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[QUOTE=moe94]Howard wasn't top 5 in 2011? Really? Come on. If someone is going to be left out, it's Rose, regardless of his MVP.[/QUOTE]
Yea they are interchangeable, I left Rose in there because of the MVP, but Howard can be there too, point is, can you give Wade a spot over the others?
[QUOTE=Micku]I don't think he was consider top 5 until afterwards or during his playoff run. I think most ppl had (no order)[/QUOTE]
I responded to someone who said he wasn't Top 5 even with his run.
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]I responded to someone who said he wasn't Top 5 even with his run.[/QUOTE]
Oh. I misread it. My bad.
[QUOTE=Micku]I don't think he was consider top 5 until afterwards or during his playoff run. I think most ppl had (no order)
LeBron
Wade
Howard
Kobe
Rose (mvp)
Durant
Something along those lines. Nobody really expected Dirk to go off like that. He didn't even made the all nba first team that year. Durant and LeBron beat him.[/QUOTE]
You are totally right Micku
Wow, Dirk was averaging 23/7/2.6 and was somehow top three in the league??? This is [B]revisionist history[/B] if I am ever hearing it. Those numbers are not even one dimensional superstar numbers. DH was 23 and 14 along with being defensive player of the year. DH was definitely a step down from Lebron and Wade. All three were great in at least three areas of the game and scored definitively better than Dirk, ok not DH. All three made all defensive teams.
Kobe was 25/5/5.
And Dirk wasn't winning big games and 4 quarter games during the regular season like Rose who scored more and had more assist than Dirk had rebounds. Rose scored more, dominated his position, won more with a new injured team. His team dominated the elite teams. Durant had practically equal rebound numbers as Dirk and scored 4 more points per game for the league lead.
Its amazing how people are now bending things to suite Dirk. When Wade does one of the greatest finals ever when he demolished Dirk, and had WAAAAAAY better numbers during the [B]RS[/B] and [B]Finals[/B] and was a top SG defender, he wasn't the best player in the league the next year, in fact most people didn't even have him second or third. But Dirk can be mysterious be the best when Wade and Lebron are in their prime with Dirk's game fallen off with garbage numbers and pathetic defense during the RS.
Its just hilarious.
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Sometimes, you can just tell who doesn't watch basketball. :applause:
[QUOTE=DirkNowitzki41]^
Sometimes, you can just tell who doesn't watch basketball. :applause:[/QUOTE]
:lol This is the hilarity of you guys. I dare you to point out how Dirk is better than Wade, Lebron or then DH.
I DARE YOU TO TRY.
You can tell who doesn't know basketball. There is no logical way you can possible think that Durant isn't better than Lebron if you believe Dirk was better than Lebron, Wade or then DH.
[QUOTE=Pointguard]:lol This is the hilarity of you guys. I dare you to point out how Dirk is better than Wade, Lebron or then DH.
I DARE YOU TO TRY.
You can tell who doesn't know basketball. There is no logical way you can [B]possible think that Durant isn't better than Lebron [/B]if you believe Dirk was better than Lebron, Wade or then DH.[/QUOTE]
What??? Durant isn't a better player than LeBron, whats your point?
And noone is saying Dirk was better than LeBron that year.
[QUOTE=DirkNowitzki41]^
Sometimes, you can just tell who doesn't watch basketball. :applause:[/QUOTE]
You literally have no arguments against him so you dodge with a baseless ad hominem. Pathetic and transparent.
[QUOTE=TheReal Kendall]I'll take Durant.
I like both players but you have more options with Durant on you're team.
Dirk has never been considered top 2 overall in the league[/QUOTE]
Durant wouldnt have been considered better than
Lebron
Kobe
Duncan
Dirk
Wade
Garnett
and probably a few others if we did this in the middle of Dirk's prime 06-09ish. Durant is a borderline top 10 player back then. Now its just Bron and Durant at the top with CP3. Prime Alonzo Mourning might be considered top 5 in todays league.
[QUOTE=Black and White]What??? Durant isn't a better player than LeBron, whats your point?
And noone is saying Dirk was better than LeBron that year.[/QUOTE]
One poster definitely said that.
[QUOTE=tpols]Durant is a borderline top 10 player back then.[/QUOTE]
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Just how much better do you think LeBron is than Durant and Paul?
Would LeBron also not crack the top 5 back then, if Durant would be BORDERLINE top 10?
[QUOTE=Pointguard]One poster definitely said that.[/QUOTE]
That Dirk was better than LeBron??? Hell no, in the finals alone Dirk outplayed LeBron (because LeBron wet the bed), but the season as a whole nope, Dirk was not better.
[QUOTE=moe94][IMG]http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/2332127_o.gif[/IMG]
[B]Just how much better do you think LeBron is than Durant and Paul?[/B]
Would LeBron also not crack the top 5 back then, if Durant would be BORDERLINE top 10?[/QUOTE]
Lebron is a ton better than both Durant and CP3.. its not even close. The league has moved away from one superstar teams.. now we got teams like Indy/Spurs/Golden State/Blazers etc... well balanced and stacked. And can compete with two superstar teams like OKC.
[QUOTE=tpols]Lebron is a ton better than both Durant and CP3.. its not even close. The league has moved away from one superstar teams.. now we got teams like Indy/Spurs/Golden State/Blazers etc... well balanced and stacked. And can compete with two superstar teams like OKC.[/QUOTE]
You're right, that era was absolutely no place for Durant. Iverson was winning MVPs over Shaq. What could Durant do against them!
[QUOTE=moe94]You're right, that era was absolutely no place for Durant. Iverson was winning MVPs over Shaq. What could Durant do against them![/QUOTE]
The guy I quoted said hed take Durant because 'Dirk has never been a top 2 player'. But Durant would not have been considered top 2 either had he been in his prime when Dirk was.:confusedshrug: