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Someone on the main page said Hawes will be 3rd string on the Hornets. Got to think the Jazz would love him. He hits 3's, can pass, blocks shots, a young vet. The 3rd year of his contract is the only thing I can see not liking about it. Works without Roberts but he's a vet at least.
[URL="http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pjkh8pn"]http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pjkh8pn[/URL]
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[QUOTE]Jody Genessy: The [URL="http://*********.com/social/"]Jazz have exercised their third-year team options on Dante Exum and Rodney Hood[/URL].
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[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sports/3068378-155/utah-jazz-notes-gordon-haywards-back[/url]
[QUOTE]Gordon Hayward is going to have to put the Utah Jazz on his back often this season. [/QUOTE]
He'll be riding Rudy's coattails as they all did last year. I'd like to think with Alec back and looking better than ever and the late season play of Hood and Ingles that even without Rudy they will be able to compete at a high level but until we see it I don't believe it.
[QUOTE]So when it felt a little sore Friday, head coach Quin Snyder made the decision to keep his leading scorer on the sideline for the team's open practice at EnergySolutions Arena.
"If it were the regular season, of course guys have a different measure, and I do too," Snyder said adding that Hayward is "fine." "But right now it's the preseason and
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[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865639287/Utah-Jazz-notes-Player-extensions-more-tidbits-from-Fridays-practice.html[/url]
[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz took care of some expected business Saturday, exercising team options on four of their key young players.
The Jazz announced that they will take the team option for a fourth season for third-year players Rudy Gobert and Trey Burke and for a third season for second-year players Rodney Hood and Dante Exum.
That means all four players are under contract with the Jazz through the end of the 2016-17 season.
This was not surprising news, seeing how Gobert transformed into a defensive force in his second season, how Hood is expected to provide an outside shooting spark for the Jazz and that the team has high hopes for point guards Burke and Exum.
The Jazz had to exercise the options on these four players or they would become free agents next offseason. First-round picks are guaranteed two years of full salary, but teams have options on their third and fourth years.
Next offseason, Utah will be able to engage in contract extension negotiations with Gobert and Burke ahead of their fourth seasons.
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I'm hoping that they at least think picking up his option makes him more tradeable. With Exum coming back and Neto I'd hate to be stuck with Trey for another year. They might end up drafting another pg. :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE]GAME DAY: The Jazz (2-2) hit the road Sunday night for their fifth preseason game and a rematch with Portland, which easily won in Utah 97-81 on Monday night. Small forward Gordon Hayward is listed as day to day with a low back contusion suffered in Monday's game while hit from behind by C.J. McCollum, so his availability is uncertain. Blazers star Damian Lillard, the former Weber State standout, is expected to play for Portland after not playing Monday.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully they look better after a few practices. Would like to see Graham and Cotton.
[QUOTE]WORKING LATE: The Jazz went through a variety of end-of-game situations to simulate those scenarios with a crowd during Friday's open practice at EnergySolutions Arena.
Jazz coach Quin Snyder admitted it would
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[url]https://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/2015/10/18/and-heres-your-weekly-utah-jazz-wrapup-2/[/url]
[QUOTE][COLOR=#000099][B]One.[/B][/COLOR] [B]Raul Neto on getting acclimated to Salt Lake City[/B]: It
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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: [URL="http://*********.com/social/"]Gordon Hayward, Rudy Gobert and Derrick Favors all out for tonight
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The team looked a lot better last nite, even Trey. The 3rd string gave the game away. Johnson will make the team. He can help them now. He's a solid vet not spectacular. Withey looks like Rudy's back-up again until someone else steps up. He does a lot of good things out there. Neto could start if he can play like last night. Looked confident and good shooting the ball including a 3 and taking a guy of the dribble for a pull up. Trey would be a great 6th man if he could ever do it consistently like last nite but I don't think it will ever happen. Burks is making it look easy. Ingles and Hood looked great. Booker didn't shoot well but played a nice game anyway. A big reason Snyder never went back to some of these guys is because they all looked so good when they were in there. The practice time did them good. See how they do against a top team on Tuesday. The crowd will be glad to see Enes again I'm sure!
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Cotton and Graham gone. Be surprised if the Jazz made any other moves for a while. I like the roster 7 deep. Lots of question marks after that especially with Trey apparently in the rotation. Trey needs to go but they seem to think otherwise. Eventually have to pick between Withey and Pleiss. Withey looks better now. Pleiss still adjusting to the rule differences.
See how they look tonight against a top team.
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Kanter is resting tonite. How convenient!:roll:
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crappy start tonite. Lindsey said probably no moves in the short term as expected. :banghead:
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[QUOTE]The Spurs are waiving former lottery pick Jimmer Fredette, along with former Ohio State star Deshaun Thomas and Youssou Ndoye, per Yahoo Sports. The [URL="http://amicohoops.net/2015/10/hoopsnews-calipari-kerr-boatright-nets/"]Hawks, Jazz, Suns and Knicks are said to have an interest in Fredette.[/URL] Thomas has spent the past two seasons playing in Europe and has several offers waiting for him there, per Amico Hoops.
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[url]http://*********.com/2015/10/19/this-is-why-people-should-be-jumping-on-the-jazz-bandwagon/[/url]
[QUOTE] the Utah Jazz are now in as good a position as anybody going forward. [/QUOTE]
Not sure. It will get interesting in a couple years to see if they can pay everyone.
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[url]http://www.slcdunk.com/2015/10/20/9539613/jumus-jazzmen-previews-2[/url]
[QUOTE]Hayward is the only Jazzman who came in at the same spot in this year's and last year's rankings.[/QUOTE]
Who would have been ahead of him?
[QUOTE]Gordon carried our offensive load night in and night out this season and due to a combination of his and our team's continued improvement achieved career highs in PER, Usage%, Win Shares, Win Shares per 48 minutes, Box Plus MInus (with his 1st positive defensive box plus minus ever), and Value over replacement player!
For those who are not into all the outside of the box score stats, that's basically all a bunch of analytic mumbo jumbo that Hayward took another leap this season. He is right on the cusp of that NBA All Star range. Depending on who you ask, Hayward is starting to make people's list of top 25 NBA players right now.
Anyways, let's get on with his formal introduction:
[B]#2. Gordon Hayward, 6th year, 25 years old, 6'8", 207 pounds, (Last year's rank: 2)[/B]
[B]Backstory:[/B]
Time flies, Gordon Hayward is the veteran of this team. Let's look back at a moment from his rookie year
The more I look back at this moment, the more I can appreciate the symbolism of this clip.
This was the season where the passing of the baton took place in the great historical Utah Jazz franchise relay-- It was not a clean handoff by any means.
[URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/98725/jerry-sloan"]Jerry Sloan's[/URL] system had brought us great success over the decades, but it had become apparent for at least a couple years, if not more, that it had long since become antiquated and no longer a formula for a contender.
In this clip, are the last fractured remnants of the final iteration of Jerry Sloan coached basketball. [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21655/deron-williams"]Deron Williams[/URL], appears dismayed as his once-effective partner-in-crime [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21653/carlos-boozer"]Carlos Boozer[/URL] recently left for greener/redder pastures to play with a new up-and-coming point guard in [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/50189/derrick-rose"]Derrick Rose[/URL] (or maybe just to get as big of a paycheck as he could).
Deron vents his anger as his team, down by double-digits, is playing this pasty new hot-shot who is still learning the intricacies of Sloan's flex system as this was the 2nd game of his NBA career.
Now watch that video again. Observe the frustration Deron displays early on, he was making mountains out of molehills. He knew his team's peak was behind him. His team's success that season was only going to go as far as he could carry them. He realized this and would lead us to many wins (we were 27-13 halfway through this season!) but eventually he lost steam clashed heads with too many people and the Jazz had to cut their losses and welcome in a new era.
Most of you are aware this is the year Sloan retired. Watch the 27 second mark as the lone player-connection to the [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/utah-jazz"]Jazz's[/URL] past of Stockton-and-Malone in Kirilenko exits stage left. See Hayward showing his own frustration but an even more intense expression of how much he was willing to learn from his mistakes and improve. View the immediately frames following at the 31 second mark as Big Al, [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21915/raja-bell"]Raja Bell[/URL], and Corbin console him as those 3 would realize Gordon was going to play an integral role in making all of them look better than they would have in absence of him.
Then, in the final shot, a Kirilenko patting Hayward's shorts.
[B]The figureheads of the players of Jazz basketball of the last 30 years:[/B]
Stockton/Malone->Kirilenko->DWill/Boozer->Hayward/Favors
[B]Gordon Hayward is only player left on this team from when we had Deron Williams[/B]
He is the one player keeping us from 100% roster turnover since then...it has not even been 5 years since that clip...
The Jazz culture sure has changed since the decades of dominance that spanned from the mid-80s to early-00s.
Now, a new era.
One who's longest current incumbent is Gordon Hayward. He is joined by his teammates this year as they all try to win playoff games for the first time with this team!
[B]What to Expect This Season[/B]
[B][SIZE=3]Take a look at how Hayward performed compared to my projections for him last year, I eerily close on some while Hayward exceeded my expectations by a bit in the other ones:[/SIZE][/B]
Player G MP PTS AST REB FG% 3P% FT% PER WS/48 Hayward Projected 76 34.0 17.4 4.1 3.5 0.440 0.370 0.820 18.0 0.121 Hayward Actual 76 34.4 19.3 4.1 4.9 0.445 0.364 0.812 20.2 0.159
Hayward already is living up to his new contract that many saw as a gross overpay a short year ago.
So why is Gordon only ranked #2? He appears to have exceeded my expectations for the most part. And indeed, he leapfrogged last year's #1 in Derrick Favors in this year's Jazzmen Previews. But there is one I see even more crucial to the Jazz's success, one whose specialized talents will be THE reason many attribute to our team either making or missing the playoffs this year. He will be covered in the final entry (and the vast majority of you already know who it is).
I expect Hayward to either level off this season in production or take a minor step (hopefully in the positive direction) for the most part as Burks' return and Hood's likely improvement help to alleviate some of Hayward's heavy offensive load from the wing this season.
This is what I would project him to produce this season:
G MP FGA FG% 3P% TRB AST STL PTS PER WS VORP 80 34.0 15 0.450 0.380 5.0 6.0 1.5 20.8 20.0 9.0 4.0
[B]Chances of him being with the team in the 2016-2017 season:[/B]
90%
[B]Conclusion:[/B]
Hayward is the longest standing Jazz player of the Core 4 Fab 5 Sensual 6 [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/111859/quin-snyder"]Quin Snyder[/URL] era of Jazz basketball.
He is the captain and one of the leaders of the charge that the Jazz are poised to make this season.
His name (or remnants of it rather, as a vocal minority still mistakenly call him Haywood) is the one that people know from our team for now.
The cogs of our offensive system simply are not greased without him.
Here's to Gordon and the Jazz finding some success this year and next, as Hayward will likely hit the market less than 20ish months from now. Let's hope Quin gets Hayward and the rest of our squad to buy in the special story our team is going to be making for years to come!
Let's get back to winning some playoff games!
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[url]http://saltcityhoops.com/10-utah-jazz-season-predictions-2015-16/[/url]
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The Jazz's starting five might not be their best starting five.
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Not any line-up with Burke.
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[IMG]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/155479/1_medium.png[/IMG] As the regular season nears and the Jazz winnow down their roster, we'll be learning more about the roles each player will fill. Starters are a part of that, but a team's best five players statistically are not always the starting five.
Take last year, for example. As [URL="http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25341621/-16-nba-season-preview-western-conference-best-lineups"]CBS Eye On Basketball reports[/URL], last year's best Jazz lineup in terms of plus/minus consisted of Trey Burke, Gordon Hayward, Joe Ingles, Derrick Favors, and Rudy Gobert. Zach Harper writes:
[INDENT] This was the fourth highest-used lineup (128 minutes) by the Jazz and it put up a plus-14.9 net rating. Defensively -- as was the case for the entire second half of the season -- the Jazz demolished opponents. This lineup allowed just 89.8 points per 100. This lineup was very sloppy with the ball (21 percent turnover rate) and yet they still dominated. The amazing thing about this lineup is the difference between Gobert and Kanter. When you swapped those two big men, the Jazz were a minus-17 per 100. That's a difference of 31.9 points per 100! The Jazz could've traded Kanter for a broken down tractor and it would've been a good deal.[/INDENT]It's almost a guarantee that any "best" Jazz lineup will feature Hayward, Favors and Gobert. It's like picking character classes for the original Final Fantasy on NES -- if you've got a Fighter, a White Mage and a Black Mage, it doesn't really matter who else is in the party. (And now I definitely need to write a post assigning a Final Fantasy "Job" class to each Jazz player.)
Anyway, Harper takes a guess at the best Jazz lineup for this upcoming season, and unsurprisingly, it features those three:
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I don't know they looked good with Booker and Rudy with the wings I could see being pretty good too.
[QUOTE][INDENT][I]This Season: Raul Neto, Alec Burks, Gordon Hayward, Derrick Favors, Rudy Gobert[/I]
If you were hoping Dante Exum was going to be involved in their best lineup, he tore his ACL this summer. Burke was a part of their most effective lineup last season, but newcomer Raul Neto is the type of playmaker who could make a big difference. You're also adding a healthy Alec Burks to the mix, and he can also do a lot of playmaking from the wings. This lineup still maintains its defensive intensity and effectiveness under Quin Snyder, but you get better offense and more control of the ball. This could be the lineup that gets the Jazz back to the playoffs.[/INDENT]Again, Harper isn't necessarily presuming Raul Neto will be the starter -- just that he'll be part of the Jazz's most effective lineup in terms of plus/minus. I'm inclined to agree, since Neto's offensive deficiencies can be hidden in that lineup more easily than Trey Burke's defensive flaws.
But like I said, it doesn't really matter. Any lineup featuring our Fighter, White Mage and Black Mage will excel.
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I think Ingles instead of Neto would be better right now. That would be my starting line-up.
[QUOTE][IMG]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/155483/2_medium.png[/IMG] Speaking of the Jazz's Big Three, they've finally all been revealed in ESPN's #NBArank. [URL="http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13895955/nbarank-31-35"]Gordon Hayward topped the Jazz at #32 overall.[/URL] (An auspicious number for Jazz fans.) But as JuMu points out, that leaves a bunch of players above him:
(Disregard Greg Monroe's and Al Jefferson's names in those tweets; JuMu was going off erroneous ESPN info and later corrected himself.)
Most of those seem pretty fair to me, although a few are definitely arguable. (By [URL="http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM"]Real Plus/Minus and WAR[/URL], Hayward is at least above Butler, Irving, and several others.) As I mentioned a week or two ago, though, about a third of the teams in the league have three top-50 players, and the Jazz are one of them. If these rankings are good for anything -- and I'm not entirely convinced they are -- it might be to show the kind of company the Jazz stand in.
[IMG]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/554201/3_medium.png[/IMG] So last week I attended a concert at Abravanel Hall featuring symphonic arrangements of music from The Legend of Zelda series. (It should surprise approximately no one that I choose to spend my free time listening to live performances of video game music.) [URL="http://www.slcdunk.com/2015/10/15/9548741/gordon-hayward-and-the-joystick-of-time"]The FanPost by hansenjames[/URL] I'm featuring this week, then, is apropos:
[INDENT] In the land of Hyrule, sometimes known as Utah, a young Gordon woke to a very obnoxious fairy.
"I choose you," said the fairy, "You will prove to be great in time."
"Wut?" said Gordon waking from the slumber of the offseason.
"No comment!" said the fairy with an annoying smirk and flitted around the room. She thought that remark was so funny.[/INDENT]Also, this FanPost involves intentionally bad Photoshop jobs. I'm not gonna spoil it by posting them here. [URL="http://www.slcdunk.com/2015/10/15/9548741/gordon-hayward-and-the-joystick-of-time"]Click through[/URL]. And thanks, James.
[IMG]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/155491/4_medium.png[/IMG] Here's a good recap of Joe Ingles' recent preseason performance from [URL="http://pickandroll.com.au/aussies-nba-joe-ingles-heats-downtown/"]Aussie hoops blog The Pick and Roll[/URL]:
[INDENT] Joe Ingles will be entering the 2015/16 NBA season in fine form. Backing up from his encouraging game against the Trailblazers a few days ago, Ingles had himself a game against Portland again today.
Although the Jazz eventually went down in overtime 111-116, Ingles provided plenty of highlights. In 20 minutes of game time, Ingles took 7 shots, all of which came from beyond the arc, and drained 5 of them. He finished with 16 points, 2 assists, 1 rebound and a steal.
In the third quarter Ingles scored 9 straight points in a span of just 1 minute and 22 seconds. It was triple after triple for Ingles, and it was beautiful to watch.[/INDENT]I admit, I often fail to take Ingles into account when I think about the depth of the Jazz roster. He's an easy player to shortchange, and I'm as guilty of that as his opponents. Games like Sunday's remind me of his potential as a shooter, but his best asset is that he makes other players better and doesn't get in their way. He's a [URL="http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Bard_%28Final_Fantasy_V%29"]Bard[/URL], basically -- sort of useless on his own, but his presence is invaluable. (I won't vouch for his singing ability, though.)
[IMG]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/155495/5_medium.png[/IMG] Trevor Booker's Beefmeter status, according to Grantland's Jason Concepcion: [URL="http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-16-nba-beefmeter-appraising-notable-feuds-heading-into-the-season/"]Double Cheeseburger[/URL]. Love ya, Book.
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I think his shooting might be the best thing. He's looked like their best shooter since the end of last year not saying much though.