Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
[QUOTE=theman93;14006796]:roll: :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]
I think he is just a guy who loses to inferior players unless he joins players that won as the man already.
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
The Magic were a good team. Hedo Turkgulu is underrated and Rafer Alston got hot.
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
[QUOTE=Duncan21formvp;14006257]He didn't win MVP that year either. Either case Duncan still beat the crap out of Lebron twice and badly, so what does that say about Lebron?[/QUOTE]
Says that LeBron never lost to the #8 seed, while being the #1 seed. Also, never shamed his country during his PEAK by winning a bronze medal.
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
[QUOTE=Duncan21formvp;13802053]How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while having a 4x DPOY on his squad.[/QUOTE]
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Would have made :lebroncry:
LeBron didn't want to face this beast.
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Would have made :lebroncry:
LeBron didn't want to face this beast.[/QUOTE] Hyperbolic statement. Oh well.
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
It's worth noting that before the Magic faced against the Cavs in the 2009 Playoffs, the Orlando Magic had won 7 of the last 10 regular season games prior to the series. They were a horrible matchup for the Cavaliers.
Howard was destroying Big Z in the high post and low post in that series. The Cavaliers bigs couldn't stop him.
The Lakers were FAR more equipped to deal with Dwight Howard because the Lakers had more mobile bigs to stop Howard from wrecking the paint. They had Gasol, Odom, and Bynum.
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
Dwight Howard against Cavaliers WEAK frontcourt
PPG- 25.8
Dwight Howard against Lakers STRONG frontcourt
PPG- 15.2
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Howard didn't just magically turn into a bad player overnight. The Lakers had a cohesive frontcourt to stop Howard from doing whatever he wanted.
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
[QUOTE=Turbo Slayer;14010111]It's worth noting that before the Magic faced against the Cavs in the 2009 Playoffs, the Orlando Magic had won 7 of the last 10 regular season games prior to the series. They were a horrible matchup for the Cavaliers.
Howard was destroying Big Z in the high post and low post in that series. The Cavaliers bigs couldn't stop him.
The Lakers were FAR more equipped to deal with Dwight Howard because the Lakers had more mobile bigs to stop Howard from wrecking the paint. They had Gasol, Odom, and Bynum.[/QUOTE]
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Cool story bro
Black Mamba was waiting
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
[QUOTE=Turbo Slayer;14010119]Dwight Howard against Cavaliers WEAK frontcourt
PPG- 25.8
Dwight Howard against Lakers STRONG frontcourt
PPG- 15.2
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Howard didn't just magically turn into a bad player overnight. The Lakers had a cohesive frontcourt to stop Howard from doing whatever he wanted.[/QUOTE]
Lebron should have just guarded Dwight, since he can guard all 5 positions.
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
LeBron James was by FAR the best player in the series posting the best GmSc (simpler PER) of anyone in the series. Everyone puts on the blame on LeBron but not his supporting cast? Double standards by some people in this thread.
Mo Williams was getting outperformed by Hedo and Lewis. Lewis was the 2nd option and Hedo was the 3rd option. Mo Williams in his absolute prime was getting outplayed by a 3rd option on the opposing team.
Also the Cavs bench was flat outright terrible in the series. The average GmSc of the bench was [B]1.6[/B].
The average GmSc of the Magic Bench was [B]5.1[/B].
There's no way that you can possibly blame LeBron when he was by definition the best player in the series statistically. His team and bench just didn't show up in the series.
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
[QUOTE=Sarcastic;14010128]Lebron should have just guarded Dwight, since he can guard all 5 positions.[/QUOTE] Nice strawman. I always believed that LeBron can guard centers for short periods of time but not always because it's just not sustainable for full play. More realistically he can guard 1-4.
Nice try though. Tricked me with that mental gymmastics. Still doesn't change the fact that Kobe had the more stronger frontcourt than LeBron had that series no matter how you slice it or twist it as.
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Cool story bro
Black Mamba was waiting[/QUOTE] You made no effort to address my points. Either put up or stfu.
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
[QUOTE=Turbo Slayer;14010119]Dwight Howard against Cavaliers WEAK frontcourt
PPG- 25.8
Dwight Howard against Lakers STRONG frontcourt
PPG- 15.2
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Howard didn't just magically turn into a bad player overnight. The Lakers had a cohesive frontcourt to stop Howard from doing whatever he wanted.[/QUOTE]
Dwight averaged 26 ppg, what about the other 77 ppg Orlando scored? Why couldn't LeBron shutdown either Hedo or Rashard Lewis each averaged above their season averages?
I know I know, Bran needed more help :blah
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
[QUOTE=Sarcastic;14010128]Lebron should have just guarded Dwight, since he can guard all 5 positions.[/QUOTE]
Exactly
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
[QUOTE=RogueBorg;14010151]Dwight averaged 26 ppg, what about the other 77 ppg Orlando scored? Why couldn't LeBron shutdown either Hedo or Rashard Lewis each averaged above their season averages?
I know I know, Bran needed more help :blah[/QUOTE]
This. They eviscerated the Cavs with outside shooting not just Dwight in the middle - the shooting was what killed us and also the Cavs offense looked painfully stagnet. LeBron was freezing the ball I don't know if the coach was writing that up or what but the Cavs offense was atrocious vs the Magic that year.