[QUOTE=HighFlyer23;14596754]LeBron eclipsed Kobe a while ago[/QUOTE]
How so?
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[QUOTE=HighFlyer23;14596754]LeBron eclipsed Kobe a while ago[/QUOTE]
How so?
[QUOTE=Taurus;14597181]Wouldn't be too sure about that. If the Warriors win this year + Curry gets FMVP, then I think there can at least be a debate. Granted I would still probably have Kobe higher.[/QUOTE]
Kobe is much better all around player than Curry is especially when you factor in defense side of the ball Curry has always been average defender at best while Kobe was lock down defender at his peak.
[QUOTE=John8204;14597192]1 on 1 - Kobe (might be the greatest 1 on 1 player in NBA history)
Legacy, team, accomplishments and versatility - Lebron[/QUOTE]
Well said. :applause:
[QUOTE=John8204;14597192]1 on 1 - Kobe (might be the greatest 1 on 1 player in NBA history)
Legacy, team, accomplishments and versatility - Lebron[/QUOTE]
Legacy, Team, Accomplishments and Versatility is Kobe as well. He won 5 titles for the franchise he originally played for. He also beat Dwight Howard and KG while Lebron had to change teams to beat KG. Also Kobe has more all defensive first teams.
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14597833]Legacy, Team, Accomplishments and Versatility is Kobe as well. He won 5 titles for the franchise he originally played for. He also beat Dwight Howard and KG while Lebron had to change teams to beat KG. Also Kobe has more all defensive first teams.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely. It's dumb to say that Bran has better team accomplishments when he won less rings and never 3-Peated and never had a dominant 15 - 1 Playoff run like KB.
Here are Kobe's finals stats
2000 - 15.6 ppg | 39 fg%
2001 - 24 ppg | 41.5 fg% | 50 TS%
2002 - 27 ppg | 51 fg% | 62 TS%
2004 - 23 ppg | 38 fg% | 46 TS%
2008 - 26 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 50.5 TS%
2009 - 32 ppg | 43 fg% | 52.5 TS%
2010 - 29 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 52.8 TS%
Here are Kobe's game seven stats.
44.2 MPG
22.2 points
FG 38.9%
FT 67.3%
8 RPG
5 APG
1 SPG
1.3 BPG
Here are Kobe's stats when facing elimination.
22.3 PPG
5.8 RPG
3.5 APG
1.3 SPG
1.3 BPG
on a 50.3 TS
:lol
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14597844]Here are Kobe's finals stats
2000 - 15.6 ppg | 39 fg%
2001 - 24 ppg | 41.5 fg% | 50 TS%
2002 - 27 ppg | 51 fg% | 62 TS%
2004 - 23 ppg | 38 fg% | 46 TS%
2008 - 26 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 50.5 TS%
2009 - 32 ppg | 43 fg% | 52.5 TS%
2010 - 29 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 52.8 TS%
Here are Kobe's game seven stats.
44.2 MPG
22.2 points
FG 38.9%
FT 67.3%
8 RPG
5 APG
1 SPG
1.3 BPG
Here are Kobe's stats when facing elimination.
22.3 PPG
5.8 RPG
3.5 APG
1.3 SPG
1.3 BPG
on a 50.3 TS
:lol[/QUOTE]
Lebron never 3 peated and he lost with Shaq in round 2 and only won 1 title in 11 years for the franchise that he originally played for.
Legacy, Team, Accomplishments and Versatility is Kobe as well. He won 5 titles for the franchise he originally played for. He also beat Dwight Howard and KG while Lebron had to change teams to beat KG. Also Kobe has more all defensive first teams
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14597861]Lebron never 3 peated and he lost with Shaq in round 2.
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Kobe didn't win FMVP during that 3 peat. :lol
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14597864]Kobe didn't win FMVP during that 3 peat. :lol[/QUOTE]
He won more titles for the franchise that he originally played for than Lebron did. He also lost less series with HCA than Lebron and Kobe also didn't ever win bronze medal for USA.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14597844]Here are Kobe's finals stats
2000 - 15.6 ppg | 39 fg%
2001 - 24 ppg | 41.5 fg% | 50 TS%
2002 - 27 ppg | 51 fg% | 62 TS%
2004 - 23 ppg | 38 fg% | 46 TS%
2008 - 26 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 50.5 TS%
2009 - 32 ppg | 43 fg% | 52.5 TS%
2010 - 29 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 52.8 TS%
Here are Kobe's game seven stats.
44.2 MPG
22.2 points
FG 38.9%
FT 67.3%
8 RPG
5 APG
1 SPG
1.3 BPG
Here are Kobe's stats when facing elimination.
22.3 PPG
5.8 RPG
3.5 APG
1.3 SPG
1.3 BPG
on a 50.3 TS
:lol[/QUOTE]
For so called "Lakers fan" you sure have a lot of hate for Kobe it's really odd and strange to say the least. :wtf:
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14597864]Kobe didn't win FMVP during that 3 peat. :lol[/QUOTE]
The majority of players are taking a back set to peak Shaq including Lebron just saying.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14597864]Kobe didn't win FMVP during that 3 peat. :lol[/QUOTE]
So I guess it's worse to win a title not be the MVP than to put up empty stats in historic blowout losses? Kobe was the best player in the toughest series/games in those runs, but I guess him not being the MVP against weak EC opponents devalues his championships, right? Imagine doing the same boring shtick for 15 years.
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14597977]So I guess it's worse to win a title not be the MVP than to put up empty stats in historic blowout losses? Kobe was the best player in the toughest series/games in those runs, but I guess him not being the MVP against weak EC opponents devalues his championships, right? Imagine doing the same boring shtick for 15 years.[/QUOTE]
The sad thing is he pretends to be a Lakers fan. No way in hell he is one. :facepalm
Basketball = LeBron
Rape = Kobe
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14597844]Here are Kobe's finals stats
2000 - 15.6 ppg | 39 fg%
2001 - 24 ppg | 41.5 fg% | 50 TS%
2002 - 27 ppg | 51 fg% | 62 TS%
2004 - 23 ppg | 38 fg% | 46 TS%
2008 - 26 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 50.5 TS%
2009 - 32 ppg | 43 fg% | 52.5 TS%
2010 - 29 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 52.8 TS%
Here are Kobe's game seven stats.
44.2 MPG
22.2 points
FG 38.9%
FT 67.3%
8 RPG
5 APG
1 SPG
1.3 BPG
Here are Kobe's stats when facing elimination.
22.3 PPG
5.8 RPG
3.5 APG
1.3 SPG
1.3 BPG
on a 50.3 TS
:lol[/QUOTE]
SHUT it DOWN