post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!

Fred Katz: The Wizards officially announced the hiring of four assistant coaches: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Pat Delany, Mike Miller, Zach Guthrie, Joseph Blair[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/FredKatz"]Twitter FredKatz[/URL]

[url]https://twitter.com/tribjazz/status/1425211531839508480/photo/1[/url]

[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50221280/a-big-blessing-donovan-mitchell-eric-paschall--2-childhood-friends-now-on-same-team[/url]

[QUOTE]"He didn't even let me touch the ball!" Paschall said in 2019. "He's going to hold that story over my head. If you ask him about it, he's going to say the same thing, 'Oh, I locked him up.' We still go back and forth over that to this day."


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hard to imagine

[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50220857/mike-conley-didnt-just-agree-to-come-back-to-utah-he-got-an-old-friend-to-come-with-him-too[/url]

[QUOTE]"It's just the culture. The ownership group is great. Coach Quin (Snyder) is great. They really sold me on it," said Gay, who averaged 11.4 points and 4.8 rebounds last season in San Antonio. "But even more than that is — a lot of really, really good teams were coming after me and wanted me to be there, but I think this team was the team that had the most need for what I can do."


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I'd guess no one offered him as much money and years

[QUOTE]With his ability to play multiple positions, the Jazz should be able to find a role — or two — for him.


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should start but won't

[url]https://kslsports.com/465702/jazz-vets-stay-undefeated-in-summer-league/[/url]

Brantley played his best game. Probably good to have the contract done with

[url]https://kslsports.com/465686/paris-holds-celebration-in-honor-of-gobert-france-winning-silver-at-tokyo-olympics/[/url]

[url]https://kslsports.com/465682/jazz-introduce-paschall-gay-and-whiteside/[/url]

[QUOTE]“Be ready to shoot a lot of threes, I already know they put them up,” Paschall said of what he knows about the Jazz. “So I’m excited and I’ve been working on my three all summer. I know you have to be ready to play.”


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hope you defend more than your buddy

[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/interesting-decisions-remain-as-jazz-look-to-finalize-roster/[/url]

[QUOTE]That figure slipped quite a bit in the playoffs, but that was hardly Oni’s fault. The Jazz completely lost their identity for a few games there, debilitated on both ends by key injuries and whatever chemistry juju was making them look like a bunch of grumpy dudes in huddles. The young Yale product was hardly a central figure in that existential collapse. Oni did wind up [URL="https://twitter.com/danclayt0n/status/1404552070439395332?s=20"]chasing from behind[/URL] after screens when he was asked to guard the Clippers’ stars, but literally every on-ball defender could say the same in that series. They just weren’t themselves, so avoid the temptation to zero in on those 3-4 games as a final verdict on any Jazz player.


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no the central figure was the guy that thought Oni, Niang and Favors doing nothing was better than trying something else

[QUOTE]If Butler were a restricted free agent after one season, the most another team could offer him as a starting salary would be a dollar figure equal to the nontaxpayer MLE. But if the Jazz are deep into the tax again next year, they wouldn’t be able to match an offer starting in the MLE range.

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the couldn't or wouldn't?

[QUOTE]But then Brantley changed the game by signing that QO. He is now under contract for $1.67 million with the Jazz, although only that $84K is guaranteed. Essentially he’s forcing the Jazz to make a decision on him by the end of training camp: [I]keep me or cut me, but if I go, I take a nice $84,414 parting gift with me as I look for my next pro hoops gig[/I].


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so he's probably gone

[QUOTE]Assuming everything else plays out the way we’ve described so far, the decision to keep Brantley alone would cost the Jazz an incremental $7.1M in salary and luxury taxes. That’s a lot of money to pay for someone unless there’s a real role available, and I’m not sure there is for Brantley. He’s behind all of Gay, Paschall, Bojan Bogdanovic, Royce O’Neale and to a degree Joe Ingles (who’s 6’8″ but plays more like a guard) in the forward rotation.


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sadly he should be in the mix as should Morgan and Forrest

[QUOTE]Getting Forrest back on a 2-way would give the Jazz a little extra insurance at PG until they’re sure if Butler can truly fill in there in the event of injuries. If Forrest found a team to give him an offer sheet for a standard contract with some guaranteed money, he could force the Jazz to make a decision. But I’m not sure there’s a huge market for a guard who has made 19% of his 3-point attempts thus far. If he keeps playing well in the Las Vegas Summer League, maybe he’ll catch someone’s eye. Otherwise, Forrest’s most likely scenario will be returning to the Jazz/Stars as a 2-way player.


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Pretty sad to lose these guys with Hughes and Clarkson on the roster but COTY won't play Brantley or Morgan anyway

[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/how-the-jazz-measure-up-in-the-new-western-conference-landscape/[/url]

[QUOTE]Last offseason, the Jazz reacted to the Lakers’ 2020 title by adding size to counter L.A.’s jumbo lineups. They committed to always having a non-shooting rim protector on the floor, with the option to even play both against teams like the Lakers. This scenario never really came to fruition. Derrick Favors ended up being a move that cost them, as instead they encountered the other L.A. team, whose style of play caused them problems. After unceremoniously losing in the second round, it was the clear the team needed more flexibility and length. We’ve already belabored the point that Utah was missing one and a half All-Stars, but the needs were clear regardless.


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added size that the coach wouldn't play! What was clear is the need for a new coach

[QUOTE]Much like the Jazz, the Suns kept their star guard (Chris Paul) and made a few tweaks around the margins. Notably, they swapped Jevon Carter for Landry Shamet, and then signed Javale McGee to upgrade the backup center position. While Torrey Craig left for a bigger deal, they got Cameron Payne back at a great price point. The only reason the Suns won’t be just as good or better is if Paul takes a sharp decline. That’s not something I would count on. Phoenix is likely to be Utah’s biggest competitor for the best regular season record, and has already proven it can go far in the playoffs. The Suns are going to be around for a while.


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Paul is due to get hurt

[QUOTE]The Clippers did retain Nicolas Batum and Reggie Jackson, both of whom were key for them. They bring back essentially the same roster, adding Justise Winslow and rookie Brandon Boston. Do these moves signal that they are still all-in with the hope that Kawhi returns? Maybe. But without Kawhi, they’re not a contending team.


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might be in the lottery without him

[QUOTE][h=3]Los Angeles Lakers[/h]

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shit show

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/8/10/22257080/the-value-and-importance-of-mike-conley[/url]

[QUOTE]Speaking of Rudy Gobert, a frequent argument against Conley’s impressive impact is that he shares the court with Gobert for most of his minutes. That’s true, and it’s a valid thought, as Gobert always makes his teammate’s stats look better. It’s important to note, though, that the Jazz, with Conley on and Rudy Gobert off, outscored opponents by 12.1 points per 100 possessions. Interestingly, with Gobert on the court and Conley off, the Jazz were +12.6. Almost identical. Conley and Gobert are both capable of impacting the game in massive ways, independent of each other.


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but they aren't the best player in franchise history! :roll:

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/9/22617855/azubuike-and-brantley-shine-in-utah-jazz-las-vegas-summer-league-win-over-the-suns[/url]

[QUOTE]Jarrell Brantley was also impressive tonight with his inside play for the Jazz. Brantley punishes smaller defenders in the post and then combines that bruiser mentality with the ability to finish with a soft touch. What always makes Brantley stand out is his handle at his size as well as his ability to pass the ball. When he’s forcing things, Brantley can be really turnover prone but tonight he played more within himself and ended the game with only 1 turnover. A nice sign! The thing that will take Brantley to the next level will be developing a consistent 3-point shot. Tonight Brantley went 0-5 from three. If Brantley can become a solid 3-point shooter, you can see how he can become a real threat on offense. But he has to develop that to make it happen. Without it, he’ll consistently barrel into walls of defenders.


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shot it well last year

[QUOTE]The other interesting note was Elijah Hughes missing the game for concussion protocols. It’s too bad for Hughes who is missing a chance to show what he can do. Concussion protocol is highly unpredictable so it’s not likely we see Hughes again.


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might be good for him because he sucks and no one will see it

[QUOTE]I’m not sure why the Jazz made an offer to Brantley. His shooting is not good enough (with his form will never get better) and now the Jazz have enough players that do what he does athletically AND can shoot. He needs to play for a weaker franchise where his talents might be useful.
I’m looking forward to the season. Go Jazz! Cheers.

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/templeguardtm"]templeguardtm[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/9/22617855/azubuike-and-brantley-shine-in-utah-jazz-las-vegas-summer-league-win-over-the-suns#543502581"]Aug 10, 2021 | 9:20 AM[/URL]
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or a coach that will play him
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/10/utah-jazz-free-agency-3-guards-rotation/[/url]

[QUOTE]After Mitchell, Conley and Clarkson, Utah’s guard rotation gets a little murky, if not entirely bleak.


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Ingles? O'Neale? :facepalm

[QUOTE]Matt Thomas is another option, however, the 7.1 minutes of action he saw on a nightly basis last season also reflect a limited player. His -6.0 Box Plus/Minus (BPM) does not inspire optimism either.


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:roll:

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/09/utah-jazz-10-projected-rotation-pieces/[/url]

[QUOTE]But don’t count on [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/08/06/utah-jazz-gm-says/"]Quin Snyder[/URL] employing more than 10 players in any given outing. No, recent history says the eighth-year Jazz head honcho may truly trust in only eight or nine guys from one game to the next.


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don't count on him having a clue

[QUOTE]Furthermore, the recently acquired Rudy Gay and Eric Paschall might together provide Utah with a couple of ways to implement more small-ball lineups, thereby dinging Whiteside’s minutes as well.


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same coach

[QUOTE]Finally, as a native New Yorker and longtime friend of Jazz sensation Donovan Mitchell, Paschall might be in line for some preferential treatment in the playing time department.


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that's what I'm afraid of

[QUOTE]Projected playing time for Eric Paschall: 12 minutes per game


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who's sitting?

[QUOTE]Now, with plenty of promising options at their disposal in the backcourt, it wouldn’t be a surprise to see Quin Snyder and his gang turn to Ingles a bit less often than in years past. Perhaps a noticeable decrease in minutes — he’s averaged 27 or more across the past four seasons — would keep Ingles from playing with jelly limbs on defense.


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same coach

[QUOTE]Projected playing time for Royce O’Neale: 25 minutes per game


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don't see how you can play him less!

[QUOTE]Projected playing time for Jordan Clarkson: 27 minutes per game


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scary thought! :facepalm

[QUOTE]Projected playing time for Bojan Bogdanovic: 28 minutes per game


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should go down as 6th man

[QUOTE]Mitchell is already [I]the man[/I] in town — has been for years.[/QUOTE]

:lol


[QUOTE]No doubt, Donovan Mitchell is about ready to reach the levels where only legends roam.





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plenty of doubts

[QUOTE][URL="https://www.nba.com/jazz/news/jazz-re-sign-trent-forrest-two-way-contract"]The Utah Jazz announced today that the team has re-signed guard Trent Forrest to a two-way contract[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.nba.com/jazz/news/jazz-re-sign-trent-forrest-two-way-contract"]NBA.com[/URL]
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Kind of sucks to have a guy that could be a rotation piece on a 2 way while a contract is wasted on Hughes

update after Forrest signing

Gobert/Whiteside/Udoka

Gay/Paschall/Brantley(only 84,000 guaranteed)

O'Neale/Bojan(Should be headed to the bench)/Oni(Non guarantee)/Hughes

Mitchell/Clarkson(Should be headed out of town)/MaCio Teague(Exhibit 10)

Conley/Ingles/Forrest(2 way)

Butler unsigned

UFA - Ersan, Morgan, Thomas

12 guaranteed contracts, 1 partial guarantee, 4 camp spots left