Re: 2020-21 regular season
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/11/12/22779177/sbn-nba-reacts-a-possible-trade-target-for-the-utah-jazz-christian-wood[/url]
[QUOTE]That’s a slim majority, but it’s still a majority of Rockets fans willing to trade Wood. For the season Christian Wood is averaging 17.7 points, 11.5 rebounds and 2.3 assists. Wood would be a fantastic fit in the Jazz starting lineup providing size and shooting. Wood is shooting 47.1% on pullup threes this year on just 1.5 attempts. Imagine him coming into the Jazz offense getting the volume of threes the Jazz offense manufactures!
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what would the Jazz do with a starting 4? :roll:
[QUOTE]For the Rockets, they get an expiring contract with Joe Ingles but they likely demand Jared Butler and a pick to make this happen. Would the Jazz be willing to do that? It’s a steep price, but that is likely the type of demand that could make this trade work. What do you think, Jazz fans. Is this something you would do?
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Rather give up Clarkson. Maybe a 3 team deal
[QUOTE]Ingles, Butler, and a pick for Christian Wood? In a New York second. In fact, I would offer Ingles and any two of Butler, Hughes, Oni, Azubuike, and a pick.
I don't believe in making trades just to make trades but, when a deal can significantly improve the team, I am all for it. This move would really improve the team in my opinion.
Standard rotation:
- Starters: Conley, Mitchell, Bogey, Wood (stretch-4), Gobert
- Rotation: Clarkson, O'Neale, Paschall, Gay, Whiteside
- Deep Bench: Forrest (two-way), Oni, Hughes, Fitts (two-way), Azubuike
Two open roster spots that can be used if needed.
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yeah but you still have Clarkson and COTY. O'Neale would need to start not Bojan
[QUOTE]As I've voiced before, udoka has absolutely zero value on this team as constructed..
I would trade him and bolerjack in exchange for unpaid back taxes
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always need to develop young guys so he has value
Re: 2020-21 regular season
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/11/12/22777464/its-time-to-talk-about-joe-ingles-utah-jazz-nba-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert-quin-snyder-2021-2022[/url]
[QUOTE]The biggest adjustment (and one I’ve been advocating for since the beginning of the season) is lowering Ingles’ minutes. Currently, he’s playing 25.2 minutes per game and I firmly believe that there is no reason why he should play more than 20 minutes per night. There are too many players (Eric Paschall, Jared Butler, Miye Oni) who could fill in those minutes moving forward. At this point, the production Ingles is providing in his extra minutes aren’t helping the Jazz. Those minutes would be better served if they went towards developing younger players and would give Ingles the opportunity to rest more. [/QUOTE]
Butler needs to develop with the Stars
[QUOTE]To put it into perspective, giving Ingles 5 less minutes of play time every night for the rest of the season would provide him with an extra 364 minutes of rest. That is essentially 8 less games worth of minutes for Ingles, something that I’m sure he and his body would appreciate. At this point, I just don’t understand why this change hasn’t been made. If the Jazz keep playing Ingles they way they have, they'll reach the playoffs with a version of him that won't contribute to winning. After all, isn’t this supposed to be the year the Jazz make a real run at the title? Why not then take the initiative now to ensure the team looks its best in May? I’ve got a lot of faith in Ingles returning to a better version of himself, but if no changes are made, that faith will begin to waver.
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not hard to understand. COTY
[QUOTE]But I certainly don't see how the Olympics could have any major negative impact on his fitness. I mean Patty Mills is the same age and seems unaffected by the Olympics [/QUOTE]
Mills is in better shape. Ingles has never looked in shape. Last year he spent the off season in Utah for the first time. It's why he had such a great year. This year he didn't. I expected it
[QUOTE]Don't be surprised if we soon here about Joe Ingles signing a contract extension with The Jazz.
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yep. That's what I'd expect
[QUOTE]When he has started for Conley he has been at 31 and 34 minutes. Which is probably too much. Especially the 34. Would like to see Butler starting and him keeping the same role.[/QUOTE]
Butler starting! :lol
[QUOTE]Ingles has been bad but Clarkson has definitely been worse. And Clarkson doesn't have the excuse of playing in the olympics, being old, or not being athletic. I'm beginning to wonder if Clarkson has an injury that hasn't been disclosed. At least he's shooting reasonably well from within 15". [/QUOTE]
Clarkson just sucks. He sucked most of last year
Re: 2020-21 regular season
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50283122/score-might-not-show-it-but-jazz-blasted-by-heat[/url]
[QUOTE]Tyler Herro, who finished with 27 points to lead the Heat, got an easy-backdoor layup after Royce O'Neale completely dies on a screen. Either O'Neale has to fight through that or there has to be some communication with Jordan Clarkson to switch.
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Jazz don't switch and Clarkson sucks
[QUOTE]Clarkson completely lost Robinson on a cut to the basket as he tries to jump a passing lane. In most games, Clarkson would likely have been able to count on Gobert for some help, but he's occupied with Bam Adebayo. Clarkson has to know he can't stunt like that.
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come on Rudy is supposed to cover everyone
[QUOTE]There isn't any panic yet in the Jazz locker room; they haven't shot well (they were 41% from the field and 31% from 3 on Saturday) and that, as much as they hate to admit it, has had an impact on their defense. But that habit is something that'll need to change to reach their ambitious heights.
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as long as Clarkson and COTY are doing their thing there's reason to panic
Re: 2021-22 regular season Utah Jazz news, notes and game coverage
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/11/13/22772968/instant-analysis-jazz-late-rally-not-enough-to-make-up-for-bad-performance-against-the-heat[/url]
[QUOTE]At one point, Rudy Gobert left the game limping off the floor. He eventually came back in, but that’s going to be something to keep an eye on. Never good when the defensive anchor is not feeling great.
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hello lottery if he's hurt
Re: 2020-21 regular season
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/11/13/22780622/utah-jazz-struggles-continue-in-home-loss-to-the-miami-heat-nba-2021[/url]
[QUOTE]The one bright note from tonight’s game was the play of Jordan Clarkson, who finished with 25 points on 8-17 shooting from the field. As one of a few different players on Utah’s roster that has struggled to play up to expectations this year, it was nice to see Clarkson have a really good game. There’s always going to be ups and downs with JC, but if he can start playing like this more often it would at least solve one of Utah’s problems.
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he sucks. He's played just like I'd expect
[QUOTE]Overall the Jazz have a lot of things they need to fix, and all of those issues culminated in tonight’s loss. Their forwards lack defensive versatility and rebounding, their shooters aren’t hitting their shots, and the perimeter defense is still questionable. The eventual return of Rudy Gay should help alleviate SOME of Utah’s issues (particularly the lack of interior defense and rebounding from the forward spot), but it would be foolish to bet too much on a 35 year old coming off of offseason foot surgery. Regardless of how they do it, if the Jazz can’t internally figure out solutions to their current problems they might be forced to make some roster changes in the coming months.
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Gay isn't a great rebounder. Having a starting 4 might help though :facepalm
[QUOTE]-Jordan Clarkson gave up [B]five[/B] uncontested layups from off-ball action, three in the first quarter. I kept rewinding so I could figure out who fing up. Jordan. Every single time. He had three live-ball turnovers in the third and another pass that he threw off the back of the backboard. You don't win games in this league if one of your most important players gives up 10 points on bunnies and then coughs the ball up four times in one quarter. Simple.[/QUOTE]
you don't win if he's one of your most important players
[QUOTE]-QS continues to not utilize 1-5 switching and continues to get killed defensively for long stretches of games. Moving Gobert away from the rim is not ideal, but switching disrupts offenses and forces 1:1 matches, and we can always switch off-ball to get him closer to the paint area. It's just ridiculous that a guy as smart as Q refuses to do anything other than drop. In so many ways, he's made this league better by dudes stealing his schemes (everybody was dropping two years ago and following his model) and now teams are switching 1-5 to stop his offense. He's made the league smarter and more dynamic and forced it to evolve. It's his turn. [/QUOTE]
it was his turn a couple years ago. Now it is Zanik/Smith's turn to get rid of him
[QUOTE]-Conley was noticeably not on the court at the end of this one. [/QUOTE]
which makes 0 sense
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Drafting a redundant player like udoka really hurts the jazz too...
Instead of a second year player that could contribute meaningful minutes.....we have.... a g league project.[/QUOTE]
they've drafted guys that could help. COTY refused to play them
[QUOTE]Obviously not the only one. But even on a good shooting night was only 4/13 from 3, 31%. One awesome flame thrower 4 minutes, then 28 of not so good. We really need him to get his game together on both ends.
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good luck with that
[QUOTE]Can't believe I'm saying this, but I think Joe, if he wants to continue his stellar career in the NBA, needs to get flipped to a stacked contender who have the luxury of only rolling him out for 10-15 mpg of "good Joe". [/QUOTE]
that could be here but COTY
[QUOTE]I am very concerned about the Jazz effort on rebounding. I know that Royce O'Neal has been playing defense lately but he seems under sized for his position. Little Royce only had 2 boards in 35 minutes of play today. That's horrible for your so called power forward. [/QUOTE]
seems undersized?
[QUOTE] Our forwards need to start playing like forwards and crash the boards like these teams do that are kicking our ass. If they don't very soon "wake up" then I am all in for changes to be made.[/QUOTE]
guys that don't rebound aren't suddenly going to start rebounding
[QUOTE]Ingles does need to be traded for a better defensive and swifter forward. Jazz need to start
Paschell at power forward and bring O'neale of the bench![/QUOTE]
yeah start an end of the bench energy guy over one of your best players! :lol
Re: 2020-21 regular season
Noah Levick: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Danny Green (left hamstring tightness) is listed as out for Sixers-Jazz tomorrow night[/URL]. Joel Embiid and Matisse Thybulle (health and safety protocols) also remain out, along with Ben Simmons (personal reasons) and Grant Riller (left knee injury recovery).
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NoahLevick"]Twitter NoahLevick[/URL]
Re: 2020-21 regular season
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gay is still OUT for Tuesday’s game against the Sixers[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Re: 2020-21 regular season
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gay, on going through practice today: “It’s a process. I feel good. My body feels good.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gay said he’s not working on a specific timeline, that he and the team want to make sure there are no setbacks[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy on his shooting sessions with Joe Ingles: “He’s one of the best shooters of all time. It’s steel sharpening steel. I like going up against the best.”[/URL] As for Joe’s claim that he wins 9 out of every 10: “C’mon. He’s good, but … Who am I, Shaq?”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Re: 2020-21 regular season
[QUOTE] Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gay is fully participating in Jazz practice today[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Quin Snyder said it was good to have Rudy Gay back in practice today, but that it’ll be up to the training staff to decide when he’s cleared for game action[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
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looks like he is close. They need something
Re: 2020-21 regular season
Joe Vardon: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Team USA announced its roster for the first round of the 2023 World Cup qualifier, which is later this month. The highlight is 2018 NBA champion Jordan Bell. Beyond him, Luke Kornet, Shaq Harrison, Chasson Randle, Frank Mason III are names you know. Jim Boylen is coach[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/joevardon"]Twitter joevardon[/URL]
Re: 2020-21 regular season
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50284356/jazzs-rudy-ocho-gay-practices-fully-for-first-time-nears-return-to-court[/url]
[QUOTE]Add in the fact that he's a serviceable shooter, can handle the ball, and can play some small-ball center if Quin Snyder wants to go that route, and he's someone that can plug a lot of holes.
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let's stop with tCOTY and small ball center already :lol
[QUOTE]Gay practiced with the Salt Lake City Stars Sunday to help get his wind back. He said his body recovered well between the two training sessions — a good sign for sure — though he did grumble about Utah's famed altitude.
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hopefully the Stars learned something from the vet
Re: 2020-21 regular season
[url]https://kslsports.com/472582/rudy-gay-returns-to-full-practice-for-jazz/[/url]
[QUOTE]While he averaged just 4.8 rebounds per game last season, the second-lowest of his career, Gay’s history as a strong rebounder for his position would be an upgrade for the smaller Jazz roster.
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he may have been a strong rebounder for his position but his position has changed and he's not that good as a 4
Re: 2020-21 regular season
[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/sc7111521-def-before-after-concentration/[/url]
[QUOTE]Every season, the Jazz have a stretch somewhere along the way where they underperform, and we use this space to loudly remind eveybody loudly: [URL="https://saltcityhoops.com/sc7-def-urgency-slow-starts/"]it’s[/URL] [URL="https://saltcityhoops.com/salt-city-seven-its-the-defense-did-utah-overcorrect-their-identity-playoff-race-more/"]the[/URL] [URL="https://saltcityhoops.com/salt-city-seven-defensive-issues-catch-up-to-the-jazz/"]defense[/URL]. After a 1-4 stretch, it’s time to play the familiar tune again.
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for a couple seasons it was the offense
[QUOTE]Clarkson needs 88 more threes to reach 1,000 career triples, something he will likely accomplish this season.
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hopefully with another team
Re: 2020-21 regular season
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/11/15/22783368/realistic-expectations-on-gays-integration-with-utah-jazz[/url]
[QUOTE]
The latter question is especially concerning given the Jazz’s inability to score with Eric Paschall on the floor (104 ORTG in 377 possessions, [URL="https://www.pbpstats.com/totals/nba/team?Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%2BSeason&StartType=All"]a mark that’d rank 25th in the league[/URL]).
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Paschall looks like an end of the bench energy guy. Gay makes them better. Too bad Clarkson and COTY still suck
[QUOTE]The reality is that Gay isn’t likely to be the catalyst to turning the Jazz into the contender their believed to be. While he could be the spark to such a turnaround, the heavy lifting needs to be done by the team leaders: Donovan, Rudy, Mike, Clarkson, etc.[/QUOTE]
and there's the problem
[QUOTE]Make Bogdanovic Royce's backup. [/QUOTE]
Exactly. Dump Clarkson! :cheers:
Re: 2020-21 regular season
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/11/15/utah-jazz-3-areas-improve/2/[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz’s lack of ball movement may have a direct correlation with their three-point inefficiency. Currently, the Jazz’s 20.4 assists per game rank 28th in the NBA, while their 266.2 passes per game rank 26th. It’s largely a function of design: Quin Snyder prefers to generate efficient offense by maximizing spacing in a pick-and-spread system. More passes lead to more turnovers, and the Jazz prefer to protect the rock while relying on unassisted threes.
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Clarkson and Mitchell :(
[QUOTE]Joe Ingles’ performance on that end is a little more troubling. His -0.7 DBPM falls considerably short of his career 1.2 mark. At 34, it feels possible that his slow feet have finally gotten slow enough to make it impossible for him to compensate for them with his high IQ.
Out of the rest of the regular rotation members, only Royce O’Neale joins Gobert in posting an even reasonably impressive DBPM at 2.3. Otherwise, Eric Paschall is -1.4, Bojan Bogdanovic is -2.0, and Jordan Clarkson is -2.1.
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nothing surprising there. Hopefully Joe gets it together