Cooper Flagg Discussion Thread

[QUOTE=tontoz;14958914]Ingram is a soft jump shooter that is reluctant to attack the rim. Flagg is a legit defensive big who is constantly looking to drive 1st and shoot jumpers 2nd. Not remotely comparable.

Flagg will never play the 3 in his entire career. He will play center at times in small lineups.[/QUOTE]


Sounds like you're trying to compensate for his lack of quickness by saying he's a big... The problem is that all his buckets are guard or wing-like with him dribbling facing the basket, or jumpers (and not turnarounds)... At no point have I seen him operate and help himself like a big.. You guys don't know what you're talking about

Defensively, he might be good and so was Jud Buechler and Ed Najera

[QUOTE=3ba11;14958926]Sounds like you're trying to compensate for his lack of quickness by saying he's a big... The problem is that all his buckets are guard or wing-like with him dribbling facing the basket, or jumpers (and not turnarounds)... At no point have I seen him operate and help himself like a big.. You guys don't know what you're talking about

Defensively, he might be good and so was Jud Buechler and Ed Najera[/QUOTE]

Flagg is leading the team in rebounds at 8.8 per game. Next closest is their center at 6.2. he also leads the team in blocks. Given the fact that he is only 17 I think that is a good indicator that his future is at the 4/5.

[QUOTE=3ba11;14958923]that's what you said in 2019.. I was right then and I'm right now as usual, and you're in denial and deflect mode as usual.. carry on[/QUOTE]

I don’t think I said anything about Ingram in 2019. But you’re right about what..? That he would become an above average scorer and low impact guy overall? Cool..

That he’d make one all star team and then become an obsolete guy on a bad team? Sick prediction bro.

Ingram and Flagg are similar in terms of height, arm span, leg length, and vertical reach. Cooper is way more sturdily built; his frame/bone structure is just thicker and he plays way more physically than Brandon ever has or ever will.

Flagg doesn't need to blow by guys. He's got all the ingredients for a potent bully-ball/backdown game, like Brunson, Luka, LeBron, Randle, Siakam, etc. It's a viable primary shot creation method. Gets into the teeth of the paint to collapse the defense and create open opportunities for teammates.

Flagg is more like Jalen Brown in college than Brandon Ingram imo. Perimeter skills a bit underpolished, playing as a face-up 4.

Flagg is going to get bigger/slower defenders on him than Ingram, because he's a strength mismatch on more guys. Against Arizona they tried a smaller guy on him, and he bullied them. Then a bigger guy, and he out quicked them. It's a bit like a young LeBron's mismatch....quicker than anyone his strength/size and stronger than anyone as quick as him.

Flagg and Ingram, what a weird comparison they're nothing alike :oldlol:

Big test for Coop tonight against an Auburn team who I believe are the best team in the country

[QUOTE=Manny98;14961041]Big test for Coop tonight against an Auburn team who I believe are the best team in the country[/QUOTE]

Yeah recording that one. I have some concerns about Cooper on offense. His shot hasn't been good but i am more concerned with his handles. He's had a lot of ball handling turnovers, some of which seemed really unforced.

Defensively he has been as good as advertised.

Dukes defense is insane, Flagg is tasked with leading the offense and being the defensive anchor

So far I don't see him as a number one offensive option type of guy

Cooper is a really good rebounder for his size. Shawn Marion vibes.

[QUOTE=Manny98;14961171]Dukes defense is insane, Flagg is tasked with leading the offense and being the defensive anchor

So far I don't see him as a number one offensive option type of guy[/QUOTE]


Thats what Ive been saying. He grew into his man-body earlier than all his peers so hes able to dominate at the younger levels. But hes not a 'skill set savant' like a 17 y/o Lebron or Luka. Once he goes up against more physically mature competition he loses his dominant edge.

But he is only 17. He'll get more polished. He can become something along the lines of an Aaron Gordon, Franz Wagner type at the very least. Best case scenario is probably Giannis, who was skinnier and less skilled than Flag at the same age. If Flagg lives in the gym and takes advantage of all the bulldozing and traveling the NBA lets stars get away with, I guess theres no reason he couldnt eventually do what Giannis does, IF theyre comparable in terms of standing reach, which is what really measures a guy's practical basketball length and what makes G so dominant. His length lets him get the ball so close to the basket on so many of his drives that he cant miss or get blocked.

It's a shame basketball measurements are so needlessly flimsy and unreliable, they make these comparisons very difficult.

Came up big tonight. 17 y/o freshman going at it with the 5th-year senior NPOY favorite. Just needs to keep working on that shot.

[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;14961196]Came up big tonight. [B]17 y/o freshman going at it with the 5th-year senior NPOY favorite.[/B] Just needs to keep working on that shot.[/QUOTE]

Very impressive :applause:

Broome has treated everyone like children this year and Cooper was the grown-ass man on the court last night. His shot is still wonky, and was particularly off in the first half, but he was the best player.

He's nuts defensively and bullied and team in the paint that is used to bullying people.

Cooper's TS last night was 47% which is his season average. That is a bit discouraging for a guy that can get a lot of easy baskets bullying smaller players. At least he didnt turn it over.

Coop will be an all-star within the first 3 seasons. Book it!