How Trump outsmarted China

[QUOTE=j3lademaster;14995964]I don't think anyone here is rooting for China. People want Trump to 'win' because he's the president, he represents us and if he wins we will do well; but that doesn't mean you just sit there and pretend everything he's doing is okay and mock any kind of criticism that comes his way. Let's review what objectively happened:

Trump ups tariffs to China to 34%, China does nothing.

Trump ups tariffs to China to 84%, China matches.

Trump ups tariffs to China to 145%, China matches again.

Trump announces he wants Xi to call him, China does nothing.

Trump announces he's ready to make a deal, China does nothing.

Trump rolls back tariffs.

If this is the guy closing a merger for a firm you're working for you're probably sweating and putting your resume out there in preparation, not defending him. All the while the tariffs are hurting small businesses and american consumers.[/QUOTE]

Plenty to criticize Trump for, like not considering excluding tariffs on auto parts or various electronics to begin with.

Wiki says your timeline is off.

[QUOTE]February 1: President Trump increased tariffs on China by 10%.

February 4: China responded with a 15% tariff on coal and liquified natural gas products, and 10% on crude oil, agricultural machinery and large-displacement cars.

March 3: President Trump raised levies on Chinese goods by another 10% to a cumulative 20%. He also implemented new 25% tariffs on imports from Mexico and Canada, thereby initiating new trade disputes with the three primary US trading partners.[252]

March 4: China retaliated by imposing a 15% tariff on chicken, wheat, corn, and cotton originating in the United States;[253] and a 10% tariff on sorghum, soybeans, pork, beef, aquatic products, fruits, vegetables, and dairy products originating in the United States, effective on March 10, 2025.[254][255]

April 2: Trump raised the tariffs on China by another 34%, after accusing China of tariff and non-tariff trade barriers of 67% as part of his reciprocal tariffs policy, expressed during his "Liberation Day" speech.[256][257] The White House confirmed tariffs would stack on top of previous impositions, resulting in an effective tariff rate of 54% on all Chinese imports to the US beginning in one week.[258]

April 4: China announced that it would impose additional tariffs of 34% on all US goods effective April 10.[259]

April 7: Trump threatened to impose an additional 50% tariff on Chinese goods on April 9 if China did not withdraw its retaliatory measure of a 34% tariff on all US goods by 8 April. This would boost the effective 54% tariffs on China on April 9 to 104%.[260]

April 9: China responded with retaliatory tariffs of 84% on US goods.[261] In response, Trump increased tariffs on Chinese goods to 125% on the same day. However, the White House clarified the next day that the tariff rate had risen to 145%.[18]

April 11: China, in retaliation, announced an increase in tariffs on all American imports from the previous 84% to 125%, set to take effect on April 12.[262]

April 11: The US announces reciprocal tariffs will exclude consumer electronics from tariffs from most countries, but retains a 20% tariff on electronics from China.[263]

April 11: China suspended exports of a wide range of minerals and magnets critical to auto, defense, aerospace, and semiconductor industries; the Chinese government plans to introduce a new regulatory system to prevent access to American companies.[264][/QUOTE]

China just cancelled 12,000 metric tons of US pork, and decided to buy from Spain and Europe instead.

So basically China made deals with other countries before cutting off supply. Opposite of what Trump has been doing, which has been randomly shutting off supply at 3am on Twitter.

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14995803]Well it took like 60 years to move all those jobs to Asia, so it's going to take a while to get some of them back again.
The way tariffs are laid out now won't be how they're laid out once new trade deals are made. [/quote]

you don't know that. you're giving trump to much benefit of the doubt. approach everyone and everything with skepticism and questions, remember? in the end if credit is due? whether it be trump, biden, democrat or republican - by all means.


[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14995803]

Do you only assume that negative things will happen in the future?[/quote]

mmm... yeah. can you blame me?

edit: and btw that wasn't a reference to orange man being bad but rather just in a general sense.

[QUOTE=n00bie;14996241]China just cancelled 12,000 metric tons of US pork, and decided to buy from Spain and Europe instead.

So basically China made deals with other countries before cutting off supply. Opposite of what Trump has been doing, which has been randomly shutting off supply at 3am on Twitter.[/QUOTE]

Oh no. 12000 metric tons for a population of 1.5b

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Yes, Spain is a major exporter of pork, especially to China. In 2023, Spain was the leading exporter of pig meat, with exports valued at $6.54 billion. Spain is also a significant exporter to China, with pork accounting for a large percentage of their total pork exports and a significant portion of China's total pork imports.

So nothing has changed

[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;14996261]Oh no. 12000 metric tons for a population of 1.5b

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Yes, Spain is a major exporter of pork, especially to China. In 2023, Spain was the leading exporter of pig meat, with exports valued at $6.54 billion. Spain is also a significant exporter to China, with pork accounting for a large percentage of their total pork exports and a significant portion of China's total pork imports.

So nothing has changed[/QUOTE] You would be on a dem president like crazy if they botched this deal, but because it’s your guy then it’s “hey it’s a small deal anyway”. C’mon Carl, you went to Berkeley. You’re smarter than this.

[QUOTE=j3lademaster;14996313]You would be on a dem president like crazy if they botched this deal, but because it’s your guy then it’s “hey it’s a small deal anyway”. C’mon Carl, you went to Berkeley. You’re smarter than this.[/QUOTE]

I don't agree with trumps tariffs dummy.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14995963]He did what they always do when put in a hard spot. WHATABOUTSIM

"do any of you ever question Trump?"

Baller234: *ignores the question entirely* "what about you though?"[/QUOTE]

What more proof do you need that I'm not a blind Trump follower? I'm not the one who's vaccinated. You are.

I told myself from the jump that I wasn't going to get vaccinated when Trump was in office. Didn't matter if he was behind it or not. What do I remember though is [B]democrats[/B] swearing up and down that it wasn't going to be safe. The most prominent figures in the democratic party were the ones repeating this narrative. You all know it. You were there. This was the gameplan for democrats all the way up until November 2020.

By January 2021 a mere 2 months later the dems were singing the complete opposite tune. Now not only was the vaccine Safe & Effective(TM) but you were a bad person for not wanting to get it. You're a racist, a bigot, a plague spreader and you wanted to kill everyone around you.

So I'm sorry Bill Gates but you can't have it both ways. If you genuinely approve of the way Trump handled the vaccine, which you just admitted, then that means by default the democrats were committing an act of unspeakable evil. They were trying to scare the average american from taking a potentially live saving vaccine purely over politics and not wanting the other guy to score the W.

So let's see who's in the cult:

[B]Baller234[/B]

- Said no to the vaccine when Trump was president
- Said no to the vaccine when Biden was president

[B]Sheep Democrats[/B]

- Said no to the vaccine when Trump was president
- Said yes to the vaccine when Biden was president


Now you're claiming you never said no to the vaccine even when Trump was president. Okay so by that rationale the democrats are evil scum fukks who intentionally deceived the public and played politics with people's lives.

Yet here you are still carrying water for them...

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Odd indeed.

[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;14996261]Oh no. 12000 metric tons for a population of 1.5b

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Yes, Spain is a major exporter of pork, especially to China. In 2023, Spain was the leading exporter of pig meat, with exports valued at $6.54 billion. Spain is also a significant exporter to China, with pork accounting for a large percentage of their total pork exports and a significant portion of China's total pork imports.

So nothing has changed[/QUOTE]

That was ONE order.

[QUOTE=n00bie;14996348]That was ONE order.[/QUOTE]

How many are imported yearly?

[QUOTE=TeflonDonTrump;14996330]I don't agree with trumps tariffs dummy.[/QUOTE]
Lol wrong account.

[QUOTE=TeflonDonTrump;14996330]I don't agree with trumps tariffs [B]dummy[/B].[/QUOTE]

Don't be like that, Carl. We had good times playing intramural basketball.

trump and cash --- i am rich

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[QUOTE=TeflonDonTrump;14996330]I don't agree with trumps tariffs dummy.[/QUOTE]

You deep throated Trump’s tariffs

I'm convinced OP is trolling at this point with his idiotic videos that show an alternate reality. :lol