According to the mayor of LA, you're an american as soon as you step foot on U.S soil

[QUOTE=HoopsNY;15013350]This is one of the reasons I left Conservatism. It's filled with inconsistencies. Imagine telling a Mexican whose lineage goes back generations in places like California, Texas, Nevada, New Mexico, etc to "go back to Mexico."

The irony of this is completely lost on them. These people predate the Treaty of Guadalupe, so telling them to "go back to Mexico" is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

You would think that these places with names like Colorado, El Monte, Los Angeles, Santa Barbara, El Atascadero, San Antonio, El Paso, San Diego, Nevada etc would give em a hint as to who founded those places :lol

You know the left is losing the optic war big time when they start blaming social media algorithms. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Baller234;15013353]You know the left is losing the optic war big time when they start blaming social media algorithms. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
HoopsNys posts completely stumped you :oldlol:

[QUOTE=HoopsNY;15013344]They can fly whatever flag they want to fly because everyone else does. And unlike everyone else, they're indigenous to the entire Southwest. Don't like it? Tough.

I see your location is NYC. I'm in NYC too. Ever go to Little Italy? Drive around Astoria? You said you're 1/2 Dominican. Go to the Bronx, Dominican flags are everywhere. You see flags of other nations everywhere. Go to White Plains and you'll see Albanian flags, Greek flags around Ditmars...oh, and Israeli flags all over congress.

And unlike those people, Mexicans ARE indigenous to the US. They were in Texas and the Southwest before these states even became part of the US. Not to mention, they're 38 million people. Good grief.[/QUOTE]

Mexico is a country. Texas and all those states in the Southwest do not pertain to Mexico. This indigenous argument you're trying to make is irrelevant.

There was no country of Mexico back when the Aztecs or Mayans were roaming around. The Southwest now belongs to the United States. So flying a Mexican flag in these states and claiming it's yours is incorrect.

[QUOTE=HoopsNY;15013341]Cool. I apologize. Now can you address my points?[/QUOTE]

You have no points. You're making insinuations that my position on the matter is based on bigotry and it's not. How do you even come to that conclusion? You and I have never discussed politics on here before, and you also seem to primarily post in the NBA forum, so to come to that conclusion on me reeks of insecurity in your argument where all you want to do is silence the opposing viewpoint by labeling them a bigot. A typical Liberal tactic that has been done for years.

[QUOTE=HoopsNY;15013340]Yea this is the crux of the matter. My friend's case has been ongoing for 15 years and he's been detained twice now by ICE. The second time they put the ankle bracelet on him, for no reason. He's a legal resident who has to comply with weekly checkins at his home, which inhibits him to work.

These are Americans who have families, who have jobs, who run businesses. But Conservatives want to paint the image that it's just all illegals and just arrest them and deport. You have kids being taken from graduation ceremonies or at school. How is this ok? There's no regard for human life and it's apparent.

The question is why? The answer is simple...get rid of legal immigration. Trump just went on record last night saying he wants up to 1 year for burning the flag. Meanwhile, this issue has been solved over and over in the SCOTUS. But conservatives nor liberals care about free speech in reality.[/QUOTE]

Burning the flag is a crime in many other countries, including Mexico.

Fatrick, what are your top 10 fast food places of all time? I know you’re an expert given your girth.

[QUOTE=TheMan;15013346]I keep telling that knucklehead what you wrote, in my family, my ancestors on my dad's side were from Seguin, Texas, before it got took. On my mom's side, they're from the state of Michoacan along with my great grandpa from Spain.

Basically we're all immigrants but my folks been here longer than most but you got goofballs like Chewing that's been in America just recently talking like he owns the damn place.

He's lucky I don't go to NY and kick his fat black ass up and down the Bronx.[/QUOTE]

No one is making the argument that your ancestors weren't indigenous. You learn about this shit in grade school. So what's your point? You're not getting those states back. This is still the United States. You don't even know what you're bitching about anymore. No one cares that your ancestors were here before. Focus on the present. This new country, the United States, has rules and laws and they must be followed.

[QUOTE=HoopsNY;15013350]This is one of the reasons I left Conservatism. It's filled with inconsistencies. Imagine telling a Mexican whose lineage goes back generations in places like California, Texas, Nevada, New Mexico, etc to "go back to Mexico."

The irony of this is completely lost on them. These people predate the Treaty of Guadalupe, so telling them to "go back to Mexico" is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

Because this isn't Mexico anymore! Duh! It's the United States now. Don't like it? Take up arms then. Try to get it back lol.

[QUOTE=TheMan;15013351]You would think that these places with names like Colorado, El Monte, Los Angeles, Santa Barbara, El Atascadero, San Antonio, El Paso, San Diego, Nevada etc would give em a hint as to who founded those places :lol[/QUOTE]

Just as there are Spanish named places in Florida, including the name of the State. Just as there are French named places in Louisiana. What's your point? The French and the Spanish are gone now. They're all part of the United States. We don't need a history lesson.

Serious question...do you even know what you're arguing about anymore?

[QUOTE=Baller234;15013353]You know the left is losing the optic war big time when they start blaming social media algorithms. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

I gave you actual research studies and statistics. You ignored every single point I made but only reach for the usual, "the left." Meanwhile, I wouldn't vote Democrat if you paid me. I despise them as well.

[QUOTE=HoopsNY;15013344]They can fly whatever flag they want to fly because everyone else does. And unlike everyone else, they're indigenous to the entire Southwest. Don't like it? Tough.

I see your location is NYC. I'm in NYC too. Ever go to Little Italy? Drive around Astoria? You said you're 1/2 Dominican. Go to the Bronx, Dominican flags are everywhere. You see flags of other nations everywhere. Go to White Plains and you'll see Albanian flags, Greek flags around Ditmars...oh, and Israeli flags all over congress[/QUOTE]

Those people aren't violently rioting in the streets, throwing rocks and burning american flags.

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[QUOTE=HoopsNY;15013403]I gave you actual research studies and statistics. You ignored every single point I made but only reach for the usual, "the left." Meanwhile, I wouldn't vote Democrat if you paid me. I despise them as well.[/QUOTE]

I was referring to HIGHwhey genius.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15013362]Mexico is a country. Texas and all those states in the Southwest do not pertain to Mexico. This indigenous argument you're trying to make is irrelevant.

There was no country of Mexico back when the Aztecs or Mayans were roaming around. The Southwest now belongs to the United States. So flying a Mexican flag in these states and claiming it's yours is incorrect.[/QUOTE]

So the people of California, Utah, New Mexico, Texas, Nevada, and Arizona aren't Mexican? What are they then? You're too hung up on arbitrary dates and borders to accept the fact that these people and their lineage predate all of that.

It's like trying to say Native Americans should wave American flags only and simply adopt Republican rhetoric (cause dissent clearly isn't tolerated), because of 1776. It's absurd. It doesn't take away long standing indigenous history.

Furthermore, people don't fly flags because of the politics. People fly flags because of what it means to them — heritage. That's like saying people who wave the Confederate flag do it because they want to secede now from the US. They don't. And if you go down south, you'd know that.

Similarly, all the flags you consistently see is just about heritage, not some political affiliation. But your kind wants a problem where a problem doesn't exist. Why? Because you've been taught to hate.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15013363]You have no points. You're making insinuations that my position on the matter is based on bigotry and it's not. How do you even come to that conclusion? You and I have never discussed politics on here before, and you also seem to primarily post in the NBA forum, so to come to that conclusion on me reeks of insecurity in your argument where all you want to do is silence the opposing viewpoint by labeling them a bigot. A typical Liberal tactic that has been done for years.[/QUOTE]

I'm a "Liberal" who is...

Anti-abortion
Anti-illegal immigration
Pro-wall
Low taxes
Small Government
Pro-2nd Amendment....

You're gonna have to try harder if you wanna box me into a category. I'm not a Liberal.