[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15031275]Defenders looking at the ball handler is nothing new.[/QUOTE]
Not all 5 of them while ignoring "the best shooter in history" :lol that is wide open.
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15031275]Defenders looking at the ball handler is nothing new.[/QUOTE]
Not all 5 of them while ignoring "the best shooter in history" :lol that is wide open.
[QUOTE=RRR3;15031273]Pau arguably should have been FMVP in the 2010 finals so it’s hilarious you’re hung up on Murray who’s never even been an allstar. Furthermore his stats are worse when Jokic isn’t on the court. So yeah Jokic’s passing is helping him a lot. [B][SIZE=4]And I never said Jokic could win a ring just by passing alone[/SIZE][/B] you’re twisting things like you always do because it enrages you Jokic is so much better than your hero. I said he can win a game with passing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RRR3;15031232]You are cherry picking individual games to claim scrubs like Jalen Pickett can score :oldlol:
He averaged FOUR ppg. And no sorry Kobe has never been tasked with the same responsibilities in terms of playmaking as Jokic is. He was too busy forcing up contested shots. [B][SIZE=4]Jokic can win a game with his passing alone.[/SIZE][/B] Kobe couldn’t do that.[/QUOTE]
So then what was the point in bringing it up then? Who cares if Yolk can win a game here and there, we're talking about playoff runs. We're talking about rangz.
Kobe proved on multiple occasions that he can lead a contender so long as he has another guy in the lineup who could score and alleviate some pressure. Pau was great for the Lakers but he was always Plan B when Plan A didn't work. Thankfully he came through for them. More often than not though Plan A worked. Five rangz. Seven finals.
Yolk can be the leader for 3.5 quarters, but he's never proven he can be THE GUY to dominate down the stretch. That's why Jamal Murray was so important for them. In some of those games you can't deny that he was Plan A.
But when [B]JAMAL MURRAY[/B] is your Plan A over Yolk, that pretty much disqualifies him from being in the same discussion as a scorer with Kobe.
:oldlol:
[QUOTE=Baller234;15031281]So then what was the point in bringing it up then? Who cares if Yolk can win a game here and there, we're talking about playoff runs. We're talking about rangz.
Kobe proved on multiple occasions that he can lead a contender so long as he has another guy in the lineup who could score and alleviate some pressure. Pau was great for the Lakers but he was always Plan B when Plan A didn't work. Thankfully he came through for them. More often than not though Plan A worked. Five rangz. Seven finals.
Yolk can be the leader for 3.5 quarters, but he's never proven he can be THE GUY to dominate down the stretch. That's why Jamal Murray was so important for them. In some of those games you can't deny that he was Plan A.
But when [B]JAMAL MURRAY[/B] is your Plan A over Yolk, that pretty much disqualifies him from being in the same discussion as a scorer with Kobe.
:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Jokic outscores Murray what are you talking about? You’re cherry picking games where Murray gets hot to try and act like Jokic isn’t their first option. It’s incredibly disingenuous. Meanwhile most of Kobe’s rings he was the Jamal Murray to Shaq’s Jokic :lol
A lot of these Lebron stans lost their nut over Paus 18/10 but want to disparage Murray putting up a Michael Jordan line. :lol
Too funny.
And the ultimate irony is Murray did it vs Lebrons Lakers so they had a front row seat. They watched it.
[QUOTE=tpols;15031283]A lot of these Lebron stans lost their nut over Paus 18/10 but want to disparage Murray putting up a Michael Jordan line. :lol
Too funny.
And the ultimate irony is Murray did it vs Lebrons Lakers so they had a front row seat.[/QUOTE]
Jamal Murray has never even been an allstar. Pau is in the HOF. levels to this shit.
[QUOTE=tpols;15031283]A lot of these Lebron stans lost their nut over Paus 18/10 but want to disparage Murray putting up a Michael Jordan line. :lol
Too funny.
And the ultimate irony is Murray did it vs Lebrons Lakers so they had a front row seat. They watched it.[/QUOTE]
Murrray's best playoff run doesn't even equal the career playoff average for Jokic.
[QUOTE=RRR3;15031284]Jamal Murray has never even been an allstar. Pau is in the HOF. levels to this shit.[/QUOTE]
Jamal Murray averaged 33/6/5 on sniper 53/41/95 splits.
:biggums:
Thats better than Kobe AND Jordan. And he did it against your boy.
You saw it.
[QUOTE=tpols;15031287]Jamal Murray averaged 33/6/5 on sniper 53/41/95 splits.
:biggums:
Thats better than Kobe AND Jordan. And he did it against your boy.
You saw it.[/QUOTE]
That’s what happens when you’re being guarded by D’Angelo Russell and left open (Darvin Ham stupidly told them to go under screens on Murray). Quit deflecting from the fact that Jokic didn’t need as much help as your hero.
I mean... he needed less.
Theres no universe where Pau puts up those numbers. Hes never came remotely close.
[QUOTE=tontoz;15031280]Not all 5 of them while ignoring "the best shooter in history" :lol that is wide open.[/QUOTE]
Can you provide the in-game clip so we can actually watch and see how all that unfolded? How it got to that point?
Thanks .....
[QUOTE=tpols;15031289]I mean... he needed less.
Theres no universe where Pau puts up those numbers. Hes never came remotely close.[/QUOTE]
Ttrolls ladies and gentlemen :facepalm. Jamal Murray having one hot series against a horribly coached team that gave him open jumpers means he’s better than Pau Gasol. What an idiot.
[QUOTE=tontoz;15031279]21% of Steph's shots for his career came from 10 feet out to the 3 pt line. If that isn't a valid sample size then KD's 3 pt sample size isn't valid either.[/QUOTE]
When it comes to middles and closer, it's safe to say Curry avoids those shots, which isn't a bad thing for him.
It just shows he trusts his 3 more than his 2 unlike KD who trusts himself from anywhere.
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15031290]Can you provide the in-game clip so we can actually watch and see how all that unfolded? How it got to that point?
Thanks .....[/QUOTE]
if that is what you want you could just rewatch the game. Game 5 in '17. Curry got to the foul line 15 times that game, another sign of just how much the Cavs D was focusing on him.
[QUOTE=RRR3;15031284]Jamal Murray has never even been an allstar. Pau is in the HOF. levels to this shit.[/QUOTE]
Murry put up All-Star numbers in the 2023 postseason. That's irrefutable....
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15031292]When it comes to middles and closer, it's safe to say Curry avoids those shots, which isn't a bad thing for him.
It just shows he trusts his 3 more than his 2 unlike KD who trusts himself from anywhere.[/QUOTE]
Then why doesnt KD take more 3? They are worth 50% more points and nobody is going to block his shot so it doesn't make sense to take midrange shots in favor of 3s.
The fact is that 21% of Curry's shots come from 10 feet out to the 3 pt line. Over 16 seasons that is a huge sample size.