Did Shohei Ohtani just have the greatest individual game in sports history?

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038574]For argument sake, lets take away Ruth because he only played with whites and 00's Bonds because he used roids.

90's Bonds as hitter wasn't even better than prime Mantle or Ted Williams. Mantle you could debate, but Ted Williams in particular blows 90's Bonds away in OPS+, even had a season at age 38 where he hit 38 HRs and had an OPS+ of 233. Both also had higher WAR during their primes than 90's Bonds did.

Yet neither Mantle or Williams are rarely ranked ahead of Ruth on any all-time list you see.

That's how far ahead Ruth was ahead of his competition, even if you use the race thing against him.[/QUOTE]

What?

Williams doesn't get talked about as GOAT because he missed several seasons in his prime and wasn't an all-around great player. He was an all-time great hitter.

Mantles injuries never allowed him to produce the counting stats needed to be in the discussion.

I think you're getting confused again and trying to use WAR across eras when that's a horrible idea and doesn't work

Here's an era adjusted WAR list to help you out.

[url]https://eckeraadjustment.web.illinois.edu/#rankings[/url]

[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;15038614]What?

Williams doesn't get talked about as GOAT because he missed several seasons in his prime and wasn't an all-around great player. He was an all-time great hitter.

Mantles injuries never allowed him to produce the counting stats needed to be in the discussion.

I think you're getting confused again and trying to use WAR across eras when that's a horrible idea and doesn't work

Here's an era adjusted WAR list to help you out.

[url]https://eckeraadjustment.web.illinois.edu/#rankings[/url][/QUOTE]

Bro, that top 100 list doesn't even have Ted Williams. :oldlol:

And I have seen a shit ton of lists putting Ted Williams top 5 ever. He missed some seasons because of war, but still played over 17 years in the league.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038615]Bro, that top 100 list doesn't even have Ted Williams. :oldlol:

And I have seen a shit ton of lists putting Ted Williams top 5 ever. He missed some seasons because of war, but still played over 17 years in the league.[/QUOTE]

He played in a much more shallow talent pool than modern players and was a bad defender and bad baserunner.. plus missed like 5 prime seasons. He's one of the GOAT hitter for sure, but il.not surprised he gets penalized on a list that tries to adjust for era

[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;15038622]He played in a much more shallow talent pool than modern players and was a bad defender and bad baserunner.. plus missed like 5 prime seasons. He's one of the GOAT hitter for sure, but il.not surprised he gets penalized on a list that tries to adjust for era[/QUOTE]

Yes, he missed a good chunk of his prime because of war, but there has to be something wrong with that list for him to not even be top 100.

We are talking about arguably the greatest hitter ever, a dude who batted almost .390 at age 38.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038624]Yes, he missed a good chunk of his prime because of war, but there has to be something wrong with that list for him to not even be top 100.

We are talking about arguably the greatest hitter ever, a dude who batted almost .390 at age 38.[/QUOTE]

[url]https://eckeraadjustment.web.illinois.edu/era_adjusted_V2.1.html[/url]

He's top 15 on the lists here so may have just been an error not including him.

[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;15038625][url]https://eckeraadjustment.web.illinois.edu/era_adjusted_V2.1.html[/url]

He's top 15 on the lists here so may have just been an error not including him.[/QUOTE]

I knew it had to be an error.

Lakers never picked up a baseball in his life and thinks all the guys from the 1920s are the real deal but basketball players from the 60’s ain’t it lol


Brother couldn’t find his own ass with two hands and a flashlight. Keep watching your nerdy YouTube’s and acting like you know two shits lol

warriorfan using steroids actually makes a lot of sense. No wonder why he is always raging mad around here. Who the hell wakes up every morning and the first thing they do is go on ISH to insult people? You must be miserable.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038634]warriorfan using steroids actually makes a lot of sense. No wonder why he is always raging mad around here. Who the hell wakes up every morning and the first thing they do is go on ISH to insult people? You must be miserable.[/QUOTE]

No I’m super athletic and a physical specimen and I went on gear to see what my potential was and it’s wild. Keep being fat midge beaner though :lol

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15038638]No I’m super athletic and a physical specimen and I went on gear to see what my potential was and it’s wild. Keep being fat midge beaner though :lol[/QUOTE]

Sure you are. Keep roid raging. :lol

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038643]Sure you are. Keep roid raging. :lol[/QUOTE]

Never played ball of any type never cycled

Damn bro you lame as ****

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15038649]Never played ball of any type [B]never cycled
[/B]
Damn bro you lame as ****[/QUOTE]

We know you have. I remember the thread you posted about the bicycle you just bought, aka your car.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038651]We know you have. I remember the thread you posted about the bicycle you just bought, aka your car.[/QUOTE]

This sounds like a Lebron23 post

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15038659]This sounds like a Lebron23 post[/QUOTE]

Okay thats funny af :lol

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15038638]No I’m super athletic and a physical specimen and I went on gear to see what my potential was and it’s wild. Keep being fat midge beaner though :lol[/QUOTE]

Admitted roid use? Explains you oh so well. Meathead