[QUOTE=c_az_a]Can someone find poseidon brain.[/QUOTE]
am I the only one thinking that Poseidon = KINGD? :confusedshrug:
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[QUOTE=c_az_a]Can someone find poseidon brain.[/QUOTE]
am I the only one thinking that Poseidon = KINGD? :confusedshrug:
Don't be silly. Having watched over 200+ of Kobe's and MJ's game I can say, without a doubt, Kobe is superior.Yeah.
[QUOTE=Knoe Itawl]The problem with these little kids is that they think they know everything at like 12 or so instead of realizing that maybe they should learn some more before they try to talk to people who have been watching/analyzing the game for a long long time and have SEEN Jordan's career AND Kobe/LeBron/Wade, etc.[/QUOTE]
Amen
[QUOTE=mjbulls23]am I the only one thinking that Poseidon = KINGD? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
I think Poseidon is the older brother of KINGD :confusedshrug:
I know it must be difficult. Just accept it. No wonder MJ fanboys hate on Kobe. It ain't no conicidence.Yeah.
Only thing Poseidon said right is that they would put his air moniker to shame. I doubt Jordan would win a dunk contest in todays game.
[QUOTE=KINGD]I know it must be difficult. Just accept it. No wonder MJ fanboys hate on Kobe. It ain't no conicidence.Yeah.[/QUOTE]
Kobe's actually my favorite player today. I find it funny that you call every one who isn't a Kobe nut hugger like yourself a hater
[QUOTE=mjbulls23]Kobe's actually my favorite player today. I find it funny that you call every one who isn't a Kobe nut hugger like yourself a hater[/QUOTE]
" Kobe nut-hugger"? No, I Just appreciate greatness. Typical MJ fan.:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=KINGD]" Kobe nut-hugger"? No, I Just appreciate greatness. Typical MJ fan.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
you make sound like an MJ fan can't be a Kobe fan too :oldlol:
[QUOTE=mjbulls23]you make sound like an MJ fan can't be a Kobe fan too :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Not really. I'm a fan of both.:pimp:
[QUOTE=KINGD]Not really. I'm a fan of both.:pimp:[/QUOTE]
really? :oldlol: :hammerhead:
ok then.
serious question here.
what makes you believe Kobe is greater than MJ was? I just want to know the other side of the story.
[QUOTE=mjbulls23]really? :oldlol: :hammerhead:
ok then.
serious question here.
what makes you believe Kobe is greater than MJ was? I just want to know the other side of the story.[/QUOTE]
Kobe did everything as well as MJ or better. Peremeter D, mid-range shooting, ball-handling, passing, clutchness etc. Only thing Mike did better then Kobe was block shots.:pimp: Kobe is also a considerably better 3 point shooter.
[QUOTE=KINGD]Kobe did everything as well as MJ or better. Peremeter D, mid-range shooting, ball-handling, passing, clutchness etc. Only thing Mike did better then Kobe was block shots.:pimp: Kobe is also a considerably better 3 point shooter.[/QUOTE]
oh....
so you mean he's better skilled....
even though I disagree with it to some extent, better skilled does not necessarily mean he's greater. if it was then VC & Tracy would still be top 5 playres today.... but at least that is somewhat more of a respectable argument than to just flat out say "Kobe > MJ"
Kobe being a better midrange shooter can go either way, yes he might be more skilled as a mid range shooter, but MJ really, and I mean[B][U][I] REALLY[/I][/U][/B], improved his shot over the years... as a rookie he was not so good of a shooter....
but I disagree with you on saying Kobe is more clutch than MJ. To me, clutch is not just a last second shot (that would be clutch shooter ala Reggie), but also coming up with the big plays down the stretch, getting a key defensive stop, or just stepping up when the team needs it..
again, Kobe is a great clutch player, but not as clutch as MJ to me seeing that it was routine for MJ.. He was known to raise his game in the playoffs and Finals... and Kobe has raised his level of play before too, especially in the 01 playoffs, but he hasn't done enough to show me he is a more clutch player than MJ was especially in the postseason...
don't get clutch shooter and player mixed up...
Reggie is a clutch shooter, MJ is a clutch player...
but then again, that's just my opinion :ohwell:
[QUOTE=KINGD]Kobe did everything as well as MJ or better. Peremeter D, mid-range shooting, ball-handling, passing, clutchness etc. Only thing Mike did better then Kobe was block shots.:pimp:[/QUOTE]
ok, if that's what you think. you're entitled to your opinion, though stating it as fact over and over without bothering to back it up in any way is pretty antagonizing.
i've been a jordan fan since his third (sorry i put second, but that's not true) season, so i'm a bit biased, but in my opinion jordan at his prime was better than kobe at basically everything except three point shooting. faster, stronger, more explosive, better finisher around the rim, better post scorer, better midrange shooter (mostly because of better elevation to get shots off), better passer from every range, much better rebounder, better double team roamer / lane clogger, better shot blocker, better on the ball defender, better leader, and better clutch finisher on both ends. kobe is also a more creative dribbler, though i think he's bit more turnover prone, so i'm not sure that's 100% a good thing.
now i think kobe's playing incredible ball this year, and is currently better than mike at age 35 when he won his last mvp, but not mike at 29 when he led the league in scoring and steals and scored 41 a game in the finals on his way to his 3rd straight finals mvp.
[QUOTE=dejordan]
i've been a jordan fan since his second season, so i'm a bit biased, but in my opinion jordan at his prime was better than kobe at basically everything except three point shooting. [/QUOTE]
BTW, exactly what time period would you consider MJ's prime? I was thinking anywhere from 87 to 93 since it's hard to narrow it down from that....