Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley
OP, what does it feel like to be a rocket scientist?
Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley
I'm still laughing at this one.
Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley
[QUOTE=nathanjizzle]wade 17.5 points on .38% while being assisted 38 percent of the time with 16/8 record. D rose 47.8 points on .402% and assisted 12 percent of the time with 30/10 record.
yea, wade was better than rose. :facepalm retards.
btw, miami had a losing record against elite teams 7-9 while bulls had a winning record of 12-9. lebron and wade must have played really good. d rose produced more than lebron againt elite competition while having a better record. dont even make me look up wades stats.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: @ Comparing Wade and Rose. Rose might've been the MVP, but he certainly was not a better player than Wade.
Wade averaged 7/2/1 on 45/32/72 in the 4th and 3 PPG on 50/50/100 in OT.
Rose averaged 6/2/1 on 42/34/88 in the 5th and 3 PPG on 32/34/100 in OT.
Those are just the numbers, BTW. I'm not even bringing up the defensive impact that Wade brought. Dwyane Wade was 16th in DPOY voting for the RS as well.
Since you're bringing up team records and records against elite teams, what happened in the Playoffs? What happened to the Rose Bulls which was able to beat all the elite teams in the league?
Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley
[QUOTE=outbreak]I like Rose and I think he's a great player but I also think Dwight deserved the MVP that year over Rose and I hate Dwight. Rose got lucky with his MVP. He was (and still may be) an MVP calibre player and should have been in the discussion I just don't think he deserved to win it.[/QUOTE]
I thought Chris Paul was the better player and deserved MVP back in 08, but Lebron still deserved it 100% because he met the criteria of an MVP.
There are plenty of MVP winners who weren't necessarily the best player that year, but because of team record and stats combined, they won it.
All I'm saying is, people get so upset over the MVP and who it gets awarded to.
What they don't realise is, it's a highly flawed award that shouldn't be taken too seriously. It has too many variables and bullshit to trust it 100%
Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley
[QUOTE=poido123][B]I thought Chris Paul was the better player and deserved MVP back in 08, but Lebron still deserved it 100% because he met the criteria of an MVP.[/B]
There are plenty of MVP winners who weren't necessarily the best player that year, but because of team record and stats combined, they won it.
All I'm saying is, people get so upset over the MVP and who it gets awarded to.
What they don't realise is, it's a highly flawed award that shouldn't be taken too seriously. It has too many variables and bullshit to trust it 100%[/QUOTE]
Kobe won the MVP in '08.
Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley
[QUOTE=ralph_i_el]We all understand WHY Rose won the MVP
[B]Just don't act like he was actually a top-3 player[/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah, he was.
Bulls had a very impressive year and their record reflected that. The best player on the team also had a great statistical year, so Rose makes an excellent choice for MVP based on the judging criteria. 62 wins is a standout year and deserves extra weight behind it.
Only Lebron and maybe Howard had a case over him. Who else?
And howard's team record wasn't in line with judging criteria. Not always the rule, but they do use team record as a big part in judging it.
Lebron had an excellent season but had a lower team record. Lebron had a higher PER and higher in some statistical categories, but he's also a PG in a SF's body which gives him advantages at rebounding and other statistics.
Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley
[QUOTE=poido123]Yeah, he was.
Bulls had a very impressive year and their record reflected that. The best player on the team also had a great statistical year, so Rose makes an excellent choice for MVP based on the judging criteria. 62 wins is a standout year and deserves extra weight behind it.
Only Lebron and maybe Howard had a case over him. Who else?
And howard's team record wasn't in line with judging criteria. Not always the rule, but they do use team record as a big part in judging it.
Lebron had an excellent season but had a lower team record. Lebron had a higher PER and higher in some statistical categories, but he's also a PG in a SF's body which gives him advantages at rebounding and other statistics.[/QUOTE]
dude rose was never better than lebron, durant, and westbrook
Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley
[QUOTE=aj1987]Kobe won the MVP in '08.[/QUOTE]
08-09.
You know what year I'm talking about based on Chris Paul being in the running.
Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley
All im saying is that Beasley has been to the finals.
His impact is greater than Roses
Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley
[QUOTE=aj1987]:oldlol: @ Comparing Wade and Rose. Rose might've been the MVP, but he certainly was not a better player than Wade.
Wade averaged 7/2/1 on 45/32/72 in the 4th and 3 PPG on 50/50/100 in OT.
Rose averaged 6/2/1 on 42/34/88 in the 5th and 3 PPG on 32/34/100 in OT.
Those are just the numbers, BTW. I'm not even bringing up the defensive impact that Wade brought. Dwyane Wade was 16th in DPOY voting for the RS as well.
Since you're bringing up team records and records against elite teams, what happened in the Playoffs? What happened to the Rose Bulls which was able to beat all the elite teams in the league?[/QUOTE]
Rose had waaaaay more responsibilities, had waaaay less help, and veteran teams with three top players at three positions ALWAYs beat new young teams in a new system - that's the way the playoffs work. So the formation of a super team happened. What Wade did that year was not on the level of what Rose did.
Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley
[QUOTE=russwest0]dude rose was never better than lebron, durant, and westbrook[/QUOTE]
Y'all need to go read how they judge an MVP.
I don't like the way an award is judged either, but you can't blame Rose for that.
Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley
[QUOTE=poido123]Y'all need to go read how they judge an MVP.
I don't like the way an award is judged either, but you can't blame Rose for that.[/QUOTE]
nah dude I'm agreeing with you, it's a pointless ass award, i was just saying that he was never a top 3 player
Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley
[QUOTE=russwest0]nah dude I'm agreeing with you, it's a pointless ass award, i was just saying that he was never a top 3 player[/QUOTE]
:cheers:
That's cool.
It just bothers me when people say he didn't deserve it. Based on the criteria he did? But yeah, perhaps Lebron or Howard were better and that's fine.
Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley
[QUOTE=Cocaine80s]All im saying is that Beasley has been to the finals.
His impact is greater than Roses[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley
Seriously Chicago fans trying to argue that Rose has ever (or will ever) been/be better than Wade in 2011. Your incessant overrating of Rose is why no-one likes the personality-less piece of glass.
:facepalm