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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Why does it have to be more than Williams? With the way superstars are coddled these days, this is absolutely not surprising. [B]Franchises -- especially in smaller markets -- are so afraid that their superstar players are going to bolt in free agency, they allow these guys to completely run the show and make the calls. [/B]
The NBA is not the league that I once loved.[/QUOTE]
How is this the players fault? Seems to me that you should be mad at the teams for not stepping up and holding player's accountable or getting rid of them if they don't buy in.
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[QUOTE=Hammertime]D-Will
CJ Miles
for
Steph Curry
Radmanovic
Biedrins
First rounder
I'd do this in a heartbeat. Works money-wise. I don't know about the Warriors fans, though.[/QUOTE]
Leaves the Warriors looking like this:
PG: Williams/Law
SG: Ellis/R. Williams
SF: Wright/Miles
PF: Lee/Udoh
C: Anyone but Gadzuric/Gadzuric
Playing with Williams would benefit Lee, Wright and Ellis a lot. We would need to find a real center though...And trading Curry would be a major move for the organization...interesting to think about
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Why would they trade Deron now? THey just fired their coach to accomodate him in a way.
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Not surprisingly, Deron has ruined his coach and his team, the next is himself.
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This is beyond stunning to me. Jerry Sloan deserves better than this after all he's accomplished and done for the Jazz.
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After looking at all these interviews, I know this won't be popular to say, but I think Deron vs. Sloan deal is blown a bit out of proportion. It's been said that they argued a bit, but a lot of those reports by Espn guys that aren't in the locker room.
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[QUOTE=UtahJazzFan88]It's been said that they argued a bit, but a lot of those reports by Espn guys that aren't in the locker room.[/QUOTE]
Actually the reports are players and Jazz personnel thought they were going to get into a fistfight. I dunno why else Sloan would leave in the middle of the season so unexpectedly like this, unless he has some family problem or illness that hasn't broke yet.
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Those reports are from ESPN, if you've heard any local radio with guys that call the games and in the locker room, it seems blown out of proportion.
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He had his knee drained 22 times? :wtf:
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[QUOTE=UtahJazzFan88]Those reports are from ESPN, if you've heard any local radio with guys that call the games and in the locker room, it seems blown out of proportion.[/QUOTE]
Someone finally gets it!
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[QUOTE=JazzDoc]Anybody want D-Will? He's not going to be welcome in Utah anymore. What an idiot.[/QUOTE]
This is the worst part... you guys are gonna push your best player out. Make him a scapegoat. Wow. Sloan was 68 and they were right that he wasn't showing any emotion.
I hope you guys do trade Deron because I've been sad to watch him waste away there... but talk about some serious misdirection of anger.
It's like you break up with your wife and then kill the kids.
Edit: I am gonna shake my head if they boo Deron, but I know they will. Idiots...
-Smak
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[QUOTE=UtahJazzFan88]Those reports are from ESPN, if you've heard any local radio with guys that call the games and in the locker room, it seems blown out of proportion.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700109141/Utah-Jazz-Players-react-to-coaching-change.html?s_cid=rss-32[/url]
Jazz players feel the same way. I do hope ESPN is full of crap on the reports.
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All those who reported that Deron pushed Sloan out are all backing off those stories.:lol
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[QUOTE=YAH trick YAH]All those who reported that Deron pushed Sloan out are all backing off those stories.:lol[/QUOTE]
haha y hate on sloan doe?
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[QUOTE=JSmooth]haha y hate on sloan doe?[/QUOTE]
I like Sloan, I ain't hatin. I'm not gonna slobber over the guy though.
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[QUOTE]
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - [URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Karl-Malone-says-former-Utah-Jazz-head-coach-Jerry-Sloan-would-never-quit-anything-021111"]An agitated Karl Malone [/URL]says the Jerry Sloan he knows would never quit anything and suggested his longtime Utah Jazz coach just grew tired of garbage that came with the job and certain players.
''[B][I]They changed the floor back to old school. They changed the uniform back to old school. Somebody tell the damn players to start playing like old school,''[/I][/B] Malone said before the Jazz hosted the Phoenix Suns on Friday night.
''It may work. They spent a lot of money on the rest, now how about you tell the players. I'm just calling it like I see it.''
''You're a professional, you don't need for me to break a film down for you. If you want to stop the guy you're playing, they pay you millions of dollars. You get you a TV and break the player down yourself.''
''If I got something to say or do to a man, I'm going to look that man in the eye and tell him what is going to happen. That's just me now.''
He also took issue with analysts declaring the game had passed by Sloan.
''It's like saying the game passed Phil Jackson by,'' Malone said. ''Old school worked. The players (have) got to buy into the system.''
Jazz president and CEO Randy Rigby downplayed Malone's comments.
''Karl is Karl. That's Karl,'' Rigby said after Utah's 95-83 loss to Phoenix. ''And he's right, Jerry isn't a quitter. But it was Jerry's decision and we're going to support that. But I can tell you he was not forced out by any of us.''
Asked if today's players have too much pull, Malone thought back to his own contentious battles with Sloan over the years.
''I remember (late team owner) Larry Miller in this locker room, right here when me and coach Sloan was butting heads after a game in front of everybody,'' Malone recalled.
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:eek:
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Malone is da sh*t. He probably couldn't coach a lick, but I'd love to see him on the Jazz coaching stuff as an assistant, just to put the fear of God into the players. I'd love to see the dude brave enough to tell Karl Malone he isn't running the play he just drew up.
[IMG]http://images1.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4388678/THE-ONLY-INTERNET-KARL-MALONE-LIKES-IS-WHEN-THE-BALL-GOES-IN-DA-NET.jpg[/IMG]
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How's the feeling among Utah fans after last night's game? I know the players are the same, but is there a different vibe now that Sloan's out? I actually had a lot of respect for the Jazz at the start of the season, but if Sloan's departure was due to prima-donna players, I wouldn't be surprised if people started turning against them.
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I heard from someone that's close to the team that the rift was about Deron not running the play. Jerry wanted to fine D Will but management wouldn't have it.
Jerry deceided to call it quits after that.
Take it how you want to.
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Williams is too good for Utah but now when he leaves them Jazz fans will hate his guts worse than Clevelanders hate Lebron
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[QUOTE=Hammertime]Malone is da sh*t. He probably couldn't coach a lick, but I'd love to see him on the Jazz coaching stuff as an assistant, just to put the fear of God into the players. I'd love to see the dude brave enough to tell Karl Malone he isn't running the play he just drew up.
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[IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/14cbq82.jpg[/IMG]
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Deron is cursed now, he isn't gonna win any championship ring.
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[QUOTE=the_wise_one]Deron is cursed now, he isn't gonna win any championship ring.[/QUOTE]
It's not like he was going to win with Utah anyway
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Jerry sloan steps down so he can be the lakers coach for next season
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[quote]Jerry Sloan has not closed the door on making a return to the bench, though he won't actively campaign for a new job.
If presented with the right opportunity, Sloan would consider taking another head coaching position in the NBA.
The 69-year-old Sloan left the Jazz mid-season after the team's play deteriorated and there was a reported spat with Deron Williams, who was subsequently traded to New Jersey.[/quote]
He'll be back
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Marcus Thompson: I'm hearing the Warriors are interested in prying Jerry Sloan out of retirement
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A typical example of Jerry's thinking in an article about the best guys the Jazz got rid of over their years in Utah.
[quote]Dell Curry
His exit
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[quote] As first reported [URL="http://twitter.com/utahmitch/status/114320722784038912"]by UtahMitch[/URL] (who was in attendance), [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/98726/phil-johnson"]Phil Johnson[/URL] won [URL="http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/utu/fundraising-events/dinner-of-champions/index.aspx"]Man of the Year[/URL] from the Idaho-Utah Multiple Sclerosis Society. The award is : [INDENT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#2f2e2e]given to an individual whose philanthropic, educational and civic activities strengthen the community. [/COLOR][/FONT][/INDENT][COLOR=#000000]Not to take anything away from Phil and the work that he did for MS, but also in attendance was [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/98725/jerry-sloan"]Jerry Sloan[/URL] and David Checketts. The RSL owner spoke to [URL="http://espn.kall700sports.com/category/recent-interviews/"]ESPN 700[/URL] yesterday and stated that the ownership of the [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/detroit-pistons"]Detroit Pistons[/URL] had reached out to Sloan about coaching:[/COLOR]
[INDENT] [COLOR=#000000]I'll tell you this about Jerry and I don't think this has been published anywhere...he's one of the people that was asked whether he'd consider sitting down with the new owner of the Pistons and bless his heart, he thought about it for a couple of days and came back and said he wasn't ready to go back to work. I do believe he will. [/COLOR][/INDENT][COLOR=#000000][I]Transcribed [/I][URL="http://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/2011/09/16/dave-checketts-jerry-sloan-thought-about-pistons-coaching-job-for-a-couple-of-days/"][I]by moni[/I][/URL][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#000000]Remember, Checketts was brought on as a consultant for the Pistons this summer. I don't know if he spoke to him about it at this function or if there were talks previously.[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#000000]I really didn't see him coming back from retirement to coach again, but after some time off, he might not be able to fight the desire to return. It would kill me to see him roaming another sideline.[/quote][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#000000]Personally I'd love to see him prove what a great coach he's supposed to be without the job security and superstars he had in SLC. Detroit has some young talent but are a mess. Maybe Phil will take a job and Jerry will be lead assistant?
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In his book, Amaechi was highly critical of coach Jerry Sloan, castigating him for his old-school and often profane motivational techniques. "Jerry raged against players whom he thought didn't play hard enough, claiming they were undermining coaches across the league," Amaechi wrote. "If we lost two or three in a row, he would stride into practice yelling, 'You (expletives) are trying to get me fired. I'm not losing my job because you guys aren't hustling.' "During one of these job-insecurity diatribes, Karl (Malone) looked at me and smirked, 'If only we were so lucky.' Then he went back to the posture he'd long ago adopted: working diligently on his game while pretending Jerry didn't exist."
Standard-Examiner
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[quote]Tim Kawakami: In a Tweet to @Si_ChrisBallard, I convinced myself: Clippers should hire Jerry Sloan ASAP... Sorry, Vinny[/quote]
LOL! U think CP and Blake are going to want to play for him anymore than Deron did?
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Jerry Sloan is too good, too respected, to start his own coaching campaign. So as the 69-year-old answers questions about whether he might leave retirement behind and return to the job that he loved for nearly three decades, you get the sense he's resisting the urge to make some formal announcement of his desires. "I think if the right situation came along, whatever that is," he said before pausing to ponder. "I don't know what the right situation is. We'll have to wait and see, I guess." SI.com
But it didn't take long for teams to call, inquiring about his itch to get back on the bench, and sources said the Pacers were among those seriously hoping to land him before they gave Frank Vogel a permanent position. "Before, I was just visiting with people [from teams], but they knew that I wasn't ready to coach ... back in the summer," said Sloan, who returned to his house in Utah in recent months. "I didn't know if anybody was going to call [after that]. Maybe they won't. I don't know what my reaction would be. I had some people call when they'd lost their coaches. I was honest with them." SI.com
But the honest truth has changed since then. And considering energy has played such a significant part in Sloan's decision-making, he's sounding as if a return could be in the cards. "My energy level has changed a great deal since I quit coaching," said Sloan, who is an avid walker. "It's changed a lot now. I've had time to work out. I feel better. "I had a chance to relax, to do something that I haven't had the time to do in 30 years. That's rewarding. You have time to spend with the family and have Thanksgiving and things like that. I enjoyed all of that. But [returning to coaching] is a decision where, if somebody talked to me, I'd review the situation like anybody else and take it from there." SI.com
The Maloof brothers who own the team think very highly of Sloan, and sources said that Tammy hopes her husband returns to coaching and was favorable of the idea of possibly residing in Sacramento. Within hours of Westphal's firing, however, the team announced that assistant coach Keith Smart would take over. A Kings source said he was given a new deal that's guaranteed through this season with a team option for next season, meaning Sloan could be a candidate for that job and any other where his expertise is needed. SI.com
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[quote]Chris Mannix: Interesting name for Washington suggested by one executive: Jerry Sloan. [/quote]
Could be good for Wall once they figure out who can run the pick and roll with him anyway.
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From Karl Malone interview:
[quote]"I think Coach Sloan will coach again in the NBA. Absolutely...I would love to [be an assistant coach], with Coach Sloan."
* Jerry Sloan quit because he didn't get the support of Jazz management, last year. Malone claimed that he had it on good authority that Deron Williams' insubordination had persisted and finally boiled over that night last season against Chicago in the Jazz locker room. Williams had broken several plays during the game and the coach and player argued heatedly afterward.
According to Malone, Jazz CEO Greg Miller and general manager Kevin O'Connor failed to back up Sloan's wishes to suspend Williams, so he quit. Still, the hole in the story is that if Williams was more valuable than Sloan, why trade him a week after Sloan quit?
On Jerry Sloan's exit
"I know for a fact, knowing Coach Sloan, if we're getting our butts kicked, we're practicing. I know for a fact that he was overridden on practices sometime on the road. Because Deron [Williams] was calling our GM.
"Coach pissed off, go in the locker room, words were said, Deron said words, Coach Sloan definitely said something, and the powers that be was there.
"In that defining moment, when [Jazz team management] shoulda stood up for Jerry Sloan...they chose Deron Williams. And Coach Sloan, being the coach I know and love, said, you know what? We should part the ways...And once Coach Sloan says something, it's history."[/quote]
Well as we've seen this year a coach is a lot easier to replace than a superstar point guard especially for an offensive system that revolves around the 1. Why they traded him after not backing the coach doesn't make much sense though.
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Two sources close to Sloan said he appears recharged and could return to coaching next season. Six teams have already unsuccessfully tried to lure him back before he was ready, the sources said.
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The Bobcats are not expected to make a hire for several weeks. They also have interest in Indiana assistant Brian Shaw, former Portland and Seattle coach Nate McMillan, and former Utah coach Jerry Sloan, sources said. Bobcats assistant Stephen Silas, son of recently released coach Paul Silas, will also be interviewed, according to sources. ESPN.com