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[QUOTE=King24]Kobe is the better scorer in the PS and RS season. It's not a big gap. I don't agree with the guy who said he's in "another universe" at all because Dirk is a top 10 scorer [I]ever[/I], but it's pretty clear imo that Bryant is better, even if it is by a small degree.
I think that's fair.
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Nice post. Repped on refill.
Kobe is easily a better scorer than A.I or T-Mac. Beats them in TS% and a pretty clear edge in volume, especially at his peak. In fact, his 05-07 stretch destroys anything those two have ever done, just like it destroys anything Dork has ever done. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Jacks3]Kobe is easily a better scorer than A.I or T-Mac. Beats them in TS% and a pretty clear edge in volume, especially at his peak. In fact, his 05-07 stretch destroys anything those two have ever done, just like it destroys anything Dork has ever done. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
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Ahh.. the fallacy of a Kobe n[u]u[/u]thugger. A couple of pages ago, being the better scorer was defined as having a higher ppg. Well, logic plus kobesexual does not compute.
[QUOTE=Jacks3]Kobe is easily a better scorer than A.I or T-Mac. Beats them in TS% and a pretty clear edge in volume, especially at his peak. In fact, his 05-07 stretch destroys anything those two have ever done, just like it destroys anything Dork has ever done. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Iverson averages more ppg than Kobe did in the playoffs by a pretty wide margin....even if you erase Kobe's first 4 years.
why is ts% important now? you said it didn't matter when Dirk trumps Kobe by a pretty big margin of 4%.
makes absolutely no sense.
we all know you'd rather have kobe scoring the ball than iverson because of efficiency. kobe's better efficiency trumps iverson's 2 or so more ppg in the playoffs prime vs prime. just not sure why that has to be ignored when other players are more efficient than kobe.
Not every Kobe "fan" is the same person. :facepalm
Iverson top 5 =
32.9
31.7
31.2
30.0
28.5
Kobe top 5=
32.8
32.1
30.2
30.1
29.4
:confusedshrug: looks pretty close to me.
If you take Kobe's PPM average and equate it to Iverson's avg minutes you get Iverson 29.7 Kobe 29.1 . Take the same age range as Iverson's numbers 23-32 and Id bet Kobe beats him on a per minute basis.
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why is ts% important now? you said it didn't matter when Dirk trumps Kobe by a pretty big margin of 4%.
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:oldlol:
Kobe has A.I equaled in terms of volume and a huge edge in TS%. He does it over longer runs,too. Dirk doesn't have as big a gap in terms of TS% over prime Kobe and is easily beat in terms of volume. Not to mention Kobe has played more games against better defenses.
Just face it. Kobe>Dirk as a scorer. Accept the truth. :facepalm
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Ahh.. the fallacy of a Kobe n[u]u[/u]thugger. A couple of pages ago, being the better scorer was defined as having a higher ppg. Well, logic plus kobesexual does not compute.[/QUOTE]
Except Kobe has better/equal PPG numbers over a much larger sample size and a clear edge in TS%.Dirk's volume isn't really close to Bryant's and the TS% gap isn't as large prime-vs-prime. lol @ this Kobe-hating phaggett! :oldlol:
[QUOTE=King24]Kobe is the better scorer in the PS and RS season. It's not a big gap. I don't agree with the guy who said he's in "another universe" at all because Dirk is a top 10 scorer [I]ever[/I], but it's pretty clear imo that Bryant is better, even if it is by a small degree.
I think that's fair.
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jacks3 is this ur serious account bro?
KG on Dirk's teams from '00-'08? How many championships we talking here...
[QUOTE=Fatal9]KG on Dirk's teams from '00-'08? How many championships we talking here...[/QUOTE]
i dont know bro.meet me at dixie and dundas tomorrow at 3:30 n ima tell u
[QUOTE=Fatal9]KG on Dirk's teams from '00-'08? How many championships we talking here...[/QUOTE]
Who is gonna take every big shot for the Mavericks during those runs? Kevin Garnett? He shies away from the clutch and cannot be relied upon. Michael Finley? Pre-Suns Steve Nash? Jason Terry? Josh Howard? Please.
Kevin Garnett only has a championship because he had two of the better clutch performers in the league on his team. He wouldn't have made more than WCF with Dirk's squads, they just weren't that stacked. Garnett needs someone to take the pressure off of him in the clutch, without that he would always come up short.
So this has turned into a Kobe vs. Dirk debate? :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=Fatal9]KG on Dirk's teams from '00-'08? How many championships we talking here...[/QUOTE]
50/50 in 03....had to get by duncan and the spurs.....i'd give a slight edge to the spurs, but is close to a coin flip
i don't think they have a chance in 04/05
very slim chance in 06...i doubt they could get by the spurs. just don't see kg doing what dirk did in that series...especially the last 4 games.
really good chance in 07.....i think they probably beat the warriors and make the wcf...but again, those spurs are waiting and that is probably close to another coin flip
no chance the rest of the years....no way could any version of KG lead a team like the 11 mavs to a title.
generous estimate? 2
most likely? 0 or 1
3-4. KG is a much better player.
[QUOTE=Inception28]So this has turned into a Kobe vs. Dirk debate? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
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