Michael Jordan memo to Kobe Bryant:

[QUOTE=juju151111]Better off ball defender? Wtf where are u getting this shit from[/QUOTE]
You right, I'm crazy. Jordan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe.

Boring.

[QUOTE=tontoz]He gets only 5.5 assists in 35 minutes and that is with the NBA's leading scorer on his team. :lol[/QUOTE]

I know Point Guards that have come off the bench and gotten more assists than that :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=RaininTwos]You right, I'm crazy. Jordan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe.

Boring.[/QUOTE]
I never said that he was that much better. I said where u got that Kobe is a better offbsll defender.

[QUOTE=BigBalla44]Whole article from AP:

[url]http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jnqI0mWVmLpGfg-58_R1V1VkHAGQ?docId=e4b4e851e72d44c99cbe84ef7b3ce7d2[/url]



Would you say the bolded words from the last paragraph is a subtle shot at Kobe?[/QUOTE]
Kobe saying the Original Dream Team was not athletic has to be one of the dumbest things ever said...how is Jordan, Pippen, Drexler, Robinson, Barkley running the fast break not athletic?

If Team USA didn't have that retarded option of giving Laettner the 12 spot and instead included Shaq as a rookie, that team would be even more untouchable

[QUOTE=RaininTwos]Now please refer me to where I said Jordan was garbage in the post.

Talking on the internet is disjointed for some reason.

It's clear at that point I was just pointing out [B]how great Kobe's post game [/B]is. Keep assuming that I'm ignorant though.[/QUOTE]




If Kobe's post game is so great then why did he take 14 shots per game from 16+ feet this season?

[QUOTE=RaininTwos]Now we are using assists to say that Westbrook can't pass to cutting big men.

Wow, I'm done here.[/QUOTE]

You seen his assist to turnover ratio? That has got to be the highest in history......

That entire Dream Team....would have a flipping field day with the turnovers from the sloppy "new style" game of the 2000's.....Russell Westbrook would be benched...for his turnovers...

John Stockton 1st all time
Michael Jordan 3rd all time
Scottie Pippen 6th all time
Clyde Drexler 7th all time
Karl Malone 10th all time
Magic Johnson 15th all time
Charles Barkley 20th all time

[QUOTE=tontoz]If Kobe's post game is so great then why did he take 14 shots per game from 16+ feet this season?[/QUOTE]

Because he had Bynum and Gasol clogging the paint.

Kobe didnt say the 92 team wasn't athletic, he said some of the key guys were a little older.

[QUOTE=RaininTwos]Kobe is a better shooter, better off ball defender and just as good in one on one situations, plus his post game is all time nasty.[/QUOTE]

Better shooter, yes. But better off ball defender and post game (which I'm assuming you are implying since you mentioned it. And just cause he's all-time great doesn't mean he's better)? No, and its truly spoken as someone that must've never watched them both play. No one that has watched both has ever made that claim :oldlol:

Do yourself a favor and stop trying to argue about a comparison you know little about.

I seriously laugh at people who act like Magic was finished. He led the Lakers to the NBA finals the year before the olympics, while averaging 19.4 points, 12.5 assists, and 7.0 rebounds per game (he did not become a scrub in one year because of HIV). Even a fat Magic, years without playing pro ball, averaged 14.6, 5.7 and 6.9 in 96.

Magic Johnson in 91 (he became crap one year later? nah) was a better point guard than Chris Paul ever was.

And Larry Bird, even with a broken back, was still a great player. He averaged 20.2 ppg, 9.6 rpg and 6.8 apg in the 92 season (with 46% fg, 40%3 and 92%ft). I'd take that broken Bird over guys like Anthony, Iguodala and Harden.

You can talk about their lack of defensive ability by then, but for that, you had guys like Pippen.

This current team is not even better than the 08 team who had prime Kobe, Lebron, Wade and a real great center in Dwight Howard.


92 > 96 > 2008 > this team

Am I the only one who believes that the Redeem Team > 12' Team? The comparison should be Redeem Team vs Dream Team.

[QUOTE=eliteballer]Because he had Bynum and Gasol clogging the paint.

Kobe didnt say the 92 team wasn't athletic, [B]he said some of the key guys were a little older.[/B][/QUOTE]

Which is ironic considering he's 33 going on 34 with shot knees and just put up his worst shooting percentages since he was a teenager.

The only player on the '12 team the dream team would be worried about is Lebron, and possibly KD in terms of matchups. Tyson Chandler is a solid defender, but he gets herbed by Robinson and Ewing.

[QUOTE=TheNaturalWR]Am I the only one who believes that the Redeem Team > 12' Team? The comparison should be Redeem Team vs Dream Team.[/QUOTE]

agreed

[QUOTE=Callystarr]
Patrick Ewing 24.0points - 11.2reb - 1.0stl, 3.0blk, .522FG%
VS.
Blake Griffin 20.7points - 10.9reb - 3.2ast, .549FG%
***Pretty nice even matchup, Patrick had the edge on the defensive end.

Larry Bird 20.2points - 9.6reb - 6.8ast - .406/3PT
VS.
Lebron James 27.1points - 7.9reb - 6.2ast - 1.9stl - .531FG%
***This is actually a good matchup up of individuals who can work both ends of the floor. Larry the better shooter, and puts up equally impressive overall stats. What is crazy, is Larry put those stats up in his FINAL year in the NBA. I doubt that many players will be able to put up stats like that after 12 plus years...
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While some of your match-ups aren't as close or closer than you think, these two stuck out the most.

Nice even match-up between Griffin and Ewing? Really? Prime Patrick Ewing and second year Blake Griffin is a nice even match-up? Just because they have similar stats doesn't make it an even match-up. This particular hypothetical match-up is one of the easiest ones on your list to say "hands down advantage to the '92 team."

And past his prime on his way out of the league Magic makes you "no comment" when compared to prime CP3, but 35 year old, back injured so bad he can barely walk and barely play Larry Bird, is actually a "good match-up" compared to prime LeBron? On what planet?

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Which is ironic considering he's 33 going on 34 with shot knees and just put up his worst shooting percentages since he was a teenager.
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And was still one of the best players in the league.

[QUOTE=Callystarr]Dude did you read??? I said Ewing has the edge on the defensive end...[/QUOTE]

He has a huge edge on the offensive end, too.