[QUOTE=3ball]No Mr. Ignorant
[U]the ENTIRE LEAGUE shoots 80% of threes as "open" or "wide open"[/U]
Keep trying guys.. I suppose curry appears to be a stand-up guy and worth defending.. so carry on[/QUOTE]
Back that up.
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[QUOTE=3ball]No Mr. Ignorant
[U]the ENTIRE LEAGUE shoots 80% of threes as "open" or "wide open"[/U]
Keep trying guys.. I suppose curry appears to be a stand-up guy and worth defending.. so carry on[/QUOTE]
Back that up.
[QUOTE=ImKobe]I'm just using Lebron as an example. Since we have a huge number of Lebron fans, it's something I wanted to point out. Steph's 2017 Playoff numbers are on par with a lot of all-time greats just from a pure statistical standpoint and he wasn't far off from averaging a triple-double in the Finals on a 16 - 1 Playoff team.[/QUOTE]
Sure but what about LBJ's
15, 17, 18 years too...
[QUOTE=TheCorporation]Sure but what about LBJ's
15, 17, 18 years too...[/QUOTE]
Time of Possession
[Indent]Harden 2019 Regular Season - 9.5 minutes
Lebron 2015 Finals - 12.2 minutes
Lebron 2018 Finals - 11.0 minutes
[I][COLOR="black"]Curry 2017 Finals - [B]6.2[/B] minutes[/COLOR][/I]
[url]https://stats.nba.com/players/touches/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&sort=TIME_OF_POSS&dir=1[/url][/indent]
So it doesn't count if ur employing a blowout loss brand of ball to get those stats - literally the most ball-dominance ever (much more than 19' Harden) and his team was massively out-assisted
Obviously, any great player would get those stats if he dominated the ball that much - how much would Steph get if he [U]doubled[/U] his time to match Lebron's??. :eek: .. :rolleyes: .. :facepalm
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[QUOTE=TheCorporation]Sure but what about LBJ's
15, 17, 18 years too...[/QUOTE]
Show below 40% in 2015 and went 7/22 at home when he could have gone up 3 - 1 on the series, got outplayed by Curry in the 3 straight losses when it came to crunch time.
Remember that Game 5? I believe James puts the Cavs up 1 in the middle of the 4th and Steph just goes off and ends up scoring 17 in the quarter.
First two games aside, Steph shot 47.7% from three on 11 attempts per game for the last 4 games of the series and didn't win FMVP, that's just outrageous.
[QUOTE=3ball]Time of Possession
[Indent]Harden 2019 Regular Season - 9.5 minutes
Lebron 2015 Finals - 12.2 minutes
Lebron 2018 Finals - 11.0 minutes
[I][COLOR="black"]Curry 2017 Finals - [B]6.2[/B] minutes[/COLOR][/I]
[url]https://stats.nba.com/players/touches/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&sort=TIME_OF_POSS&dir=1[/url][/indent]
So it doesn't count if ur employing a blowout loss brand of ball to get those stats - literally the most ball-dominance ever (much more than 19' Harden) and his team was massively out-assisted
Obviously, any great player would get those stats if he dominated the ball that much - how much would Steph get if he [U]doubled[/U] his time to match Lebron's??. :eek: .. :rolleyes: .. :facepalm
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Yawnnn
How dumb are you? Couldn't I just spin this around and say that most players don't wield the ability to handle the ball for that long? As soon as Curry faces a double team he passes the ball immediately because he's no longer effective. Part of the importance of holding the ball is keeping a live dribble, having good vision/IQ to recognize a double, and the ability to split a double-team. You're underrating these things severely.
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[QUOTE=FireDavidKahn]Back that up.[/QUOTE]
If I prove it
Will you concede that I'm right?
Actually, who cares - I'm going to prove it anyway with NBA.com screenshots
The league average will be higher than 80% btw because curry DOES shoot more contested threes than the league average..
I [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=404693]did this[/url] a couple years ago and the league average was 80% and curry was at 70 - so teams have gotten even better at generating open threes and the record league ortg reflects that
[QUOTE=3ball]If I prove it
Will you concede that I'm right?
Actually, who cares - I'm going to prove it anyway with NBA.com screenshots
The league average will be higher than 80% btw because curry DOES shoot more contested threes than the league average..
I [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=404693]did this[/url] a couple years ago and the league average was 80% and curry was at 70 - so teams have gotten even better at generating open threes and the record league ortg reflects that[/QUOTE]
None of that even works.
[QUOTE=FireDavidKahn]None of that even works.[/QUOTE]
NBA.com changes their links all the time unfortunately
However, here's the link to the shot dashboard that I'm about to post it
[url]https://stats.nba.com/teams/shots-closest-defender/?sort=TEAM_NAME&dir=-1&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season[/url]
Scroll to the last 3 columns on the right for 3PA stats, and you can sort for distance (of the defender)
[QUOTE=ImKobe]I'm just using Lebron as an example. Since we have a huge number of Lebron fans, it's something I wanted to point out. Steph's 2017 Playoff numbers are on par with a lot of all-time greats just from a pure statistical standpoint and he wasn't far off from averaging a triple-double in the Finals on a 16 - 1 Playoff team.[/QUOTE]
You ALWAYS use LeBron
Steph hasn't been bad by regular bball standards. Steph isn't being judged by regular standards though he's being judged by the standard his Stan's set for him. Wether it's the Best player on his team or in the world. Some have even gone as far to suggest he's better or as good as mj and LeBron offensively.
Steph has been good I don't think anyone's arguing that. He hasn't been great though and great is the standard to which he is measured against.
[B][SIZE="3"][COLOR="DarkGreen"]Team 3PA per game with Closest Defender 0-2 Feet (very tight) - [url=https://stats.nba.com/teams/shots-closest-defender/?sort=TEAM_NAME&dir=-1&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]link[/url][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B]
[IMG]https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-03-2019/Wu2nmR.gif[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-03-2019/qR3gAc.gif[/IMG]
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[I][SIZE="3"][COLOR="DarkRed"][B]Average 3PA per game with defender within 0-2 feet:[/SIZE][/I][COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] [I][SIZE="4"]0.267 3PA per game[/SIZE][/I][/b][/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][SIZE="3"]Team 3PA per game with Closest Defender 2-4 Feet (tight) - [url=https://stats.nba.com/teams/shots-closest-defender/sort=TEAM_NAME&dir=-1&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&CloseDefDistRange=2-4%20Feet%20-%20Tight]link[/url][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]
[IMG]https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-03-2019/LkoMtS.gif[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-03-2019/3M3hm6.gif[/IMG]
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[SIZE="3"][B][COLOR="DarkRed"]Average 3PA per game with defender within 2-4 feet:[COLOR="White"].[/color][SIZE="4"]3.293[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]
[B][COLOR="Navy"][I][SIZE="3"]Total 3PA per game with defender within 0-2 feet (very tight) or 2-4 feet (tight):[/SIZE][/I][COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] [I][SIZE="4"]3.56 3PA per game[/SIZE][/I][/COLOR][/B]
[I][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"]Total 3PA per game:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 32.0
Total 3PA per game with defender at least 4 feet away (open):[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 32.0 - 3.56 = 28.44
[B]Percentage of threes that are open:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 28.45/32.0 = 88.9% (80% for Curry)[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/I]
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[QUOTE=3ball][B][SIZE="3"][COLOR="DarkGreen"]Team 3PA with Closest Defender 0-2 Feet (very tight) - [url=https://stats.nba.com/teams/shots-closest-defender/?sort=TEAM_NAME&dir=-1&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]link[/url][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B]
[IMG]https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-03-2019/Wu2nmR.gif[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-03-2019/qR3gAc.gif[/IMG]
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[I][SIZE="3"][COLOR="DarkRed"][B]Team's average 3PA per game with defender within 0-2 feet:[/SIZE][/I][COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] [I][SIZE="4"]0.267 3PA per game[/SIZE][/I][/b][/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][SIZE="3"]Team 3PA with Closest Defender 2-4 Feet (tight) - [url=https://stats.nba.com/teams/shots-closest-defender/sort=TEAM_NAME&dir=-1&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&CloseDefDistRange=2-4%20Feet%20-%20Tight]link[/url][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]
[IMG]https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-03-2019/LkoMtS.gif[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-03-2019/3M3hm6.gif[/IMG]
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[SIZE="3"][B][COLOR="DarkRed"]Average 3PA per game with defender within 2-4 feet:[COLOR="White"].[/color][SIZE="4"]3.293[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]
[B][COLOR="Navy"][I][SIZE="3"]Total 3PA per game with defender within 0-2 feet (very tight) or 2-4 feet (tight):[/SIZE][/I][COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] [I][SIZE="4"]3.56 3PA per game[/SIZE][/I][/COLOR][/B]
[I][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"]Total 3PA per game:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 32.0
Total 3PA per game with defender at least 4 feet away (open):[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 32.0 - 3.56 = 28.44
[B]Percentage of threes that are open:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 28.45/32.0 = 88.9% (80% for Curry)[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/I][/QUOTE]
The beauty of The Curry System :bowdown:
Missing: Stephen Curry
Last seen: Regular season
Description: Misses layups and dunks like it's going out of style while playing bad defense.
He's been a little banged up by injury lately like he was in 2016. It doesn't look as severe as it was in 2016 though.
Curry has played like shit majority of these playoffs.