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[QUOTE=MadDog;14174230]Damn, OP ate his words. AD led the Lakers all playoffs in scoring. Was their best defender by far and, overall, their highest impact player.
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Anthony Davis Jabbar indeed :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
At least AD let you guys keep that talking point, gotta cling to that 2 point scoring edge after LeBron won FMVP :oldlol:
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14174237]At least AD let you guys keep that talking point, gotta cling to that 2 point scoring edge after LeBron won FMVP :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
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I must reiterate that Bird not rotating over quickly enough sometimes on help defense and being often beaten off the dribble while on man defense due to, for lack of better words, lethargic feet is a detracting statement against Bird, 'cuz you know that's not good. Other players suffer this defensive letdown as well, but I don't think they're always called out as much for it.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14174237]At least AD let you guys keep that talking point, gotta cling to that 2 point scoring edge after LeBron won FMVP :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Checkout the On/Off data. AD's got more impact on defense and generally overall. Only scoring doe! :oldlol: What's a tougher pill to swallow, AD leading you to a championship or Jordan still having 2 more? :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=MadDog;14174244]Checkout the On/Off data. AD's got more impact on defense and generally overall. Only scoring doe! :oldlol: What's a tougher pill to swallow, AD leading you to a championship or Jordan still having 2 more? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Why couldn’t AD outscore, outrebound, or outassist LeBron in the Finals?
Hey where is Hakeem in your list, OP? That guy was a considerably better two-way player than AD.
[QUOTE=MadDog;14174230]Damn, OP ate his words. AD led the Lakers all playoffs in scoring. Was their best defender by far and, overall, their highest impact player.
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Anthony Davis Jabbar indeed :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
you forgot all the things lebron led in for the 2020 playoffs, want me to share?
bran led the 2020 lakers in playoff
vorp, obm, dbm, bpm, per, rebounds, assists, steals
ad scored 2 more points over 21 games :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=Gus Hemmingway;14174245]Why couldn’t AD outscore, outrebound, or outassist LeBron in the Finals?[/QUOTE]
couldnt hit that coveted 30 per run either
bran has 6 now
ad has 0
[QUOTE=And1AllDay;14174247]you forgot all the things lebron led in for the 2020 playoffs, want me to share?
bran led the 2020 lakers in playoff
rebounds, assists, steals
ad scored 2 more points over 21 games :oldlol:
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But on/off takes that all into account. Give it up to KAJ, err, I mean AD :oldlol:
[QUOTE=MadDog;14174244]Checkout the On/Off data. AD's got more impact on defense and generally overall. Only scoring doe! :oldlol: What's a tougher pill to swallow, AD leading you to a championship or Jordan still having 2 more? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
The same chart that has Danny Green ahead of LeBron and Rondo 9th? Don't think I'm gonna take that too seriously. Unlike the clowns on here I give LeBron & AD essentially 50/50 credit for the title, and I think LeBron being the consensus 2nd or 3rd best player of all time is gonna be much more difficult for the haters to take than Jordan being GOAT, which I wouldn't even disagree with
[QUOTE=72-10;14174246]Hey where is Hakeem in your list, OP? That guy was a considerably better two-way player than LeBron.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14174251]The same chart that has Danny Green ahead of LeBron and Rondo 9th? Don't think I'm gonna take that too seriously. Unlike the clowns on here I give LeBron & AD essentially 50/50 credit for the title, and I think LeBron being the consensus 2nd or 3rd best player of all time is gonna be much more difficult for the haters to take than Jordan being GOAT, which I wouldn't even disagree with[/QUOTE]
Same thing with any stat. :confusedshrug: Games and minutes played should be used as context. Danny Green is a role player while AD and LeBron see most of the action. And for the most part are on equal footing, hence your 50/50 rating. Didn't mean to RAIN on your guys parade though. Keep on keeping on!
[QUOTE=MadDog;14174259]Same thing with any stat. :confusedshrug: Games and minutes played should be used as context. Danny Green is a role player while AD and LeBron see most of the action. And for the most part are on equal footing, hence your 50/50 rating. Didn't mean to RAIN on your guys parade though. Keep on keeping on![/QUOTE]
i think well be alright
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you?
Bird fed
I must confess...
this was originally a troll thread masked in truth, for the purpose of taking down Kareem, who people were calling the goat at the time on ISH
It basically backfired because even though I understand the "birdfed" narrative purported itt, my actual stance is the opposite.. guys who finish possessions control the game the most..
lebron and magic need these great iso scorers that can finish possessions like Kareem, Wade, Kyrie, Worthy or AD - elite 1st option juggernaut scorers... lebron/magic need guys to FINISH possessions.. I made a thread about their need:
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486993-Magic-amp-Lebron-are-quot-pippens-quot-because-they-must-feed-finishers-like-AD-Kareem[/url]
Otoh, Jordan was the finisher for the Bulls - he was the juggernaut scorer and also the leading assist guy