top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

[QUOTE=Richie2k6]:rolleyes:

Read over the thread.[/QUOTE]

Is there really a need with such stupidity?

Shogon?

[QUOTE=Orlando Magic]Is there really a need with such stupidity?[/QUOTE]
Kobe, Lebron, Garnett, Nash and Wade are all better than Dirk. So he isn't top 5, MVP or no MVP. Simple.

[QUOTE=Richie2k6]Kobe, Lebron, Garnett, Nash and Wade are all better than Dirk. So he isn't top 5, MVP or no MVP. Simple.[/QUOTE]

Kobe, Nash & Wade are not better than Dirk.

Kobe & Wade getting in the zone are better than Dirk in the zone. On a nightly basis... I'll take Dirk over either of them, thank you.

If we're talking about what a player is capable of and has shown us before when they're hot and go on an assbeating streak of games or even just one game... and what they can STILL do, then I wouldn't put Dirk top 5 either.

But as far as game in, game out goes... Dirk is top 5.

1. Kobe
2. TD
3. LBJ
4. KG
5. [B]Dirk[/B]
6. Nash
7. Wade
8. Pierce
9. AI
10. T-Mac

HM
Amare, Anthony, Yao, Arenas, Boozer, Bosh

[quote]Kobe, Nash & Wade are not better than Dirk.[/quote]
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[quote]Kobe & Wade getting in the zone are better than Dirk in the zone. On a nightly basis... I'll take Dirk over either of them, thank you.[/quote]
I wouldn't.

This thread is infested with stupid people. Listen fellahs, the only real thing Dirk shines at in the NBA is offense. His offensive game is certainly top 5, most likely top 3.

But there is so many more little things, along with major things (defense, passing) that he's not great at. Or even above average. If he's not scoring he's not efecting the game like a top 5 player should and that limits his ability to put his mark on a game on a consistent basis.

I think Dirk is a top 3 player on offense. The other facets of the game is what brings him back out of the top 5. Things like leadership, his attitude, his clutch ability, his defense, etc.

[QUOTE=Carbine]
I think Dirk is a top 3 player on offense. The other facets of the game is what brings him back out of the top 5. Things like [B]leadership, his attitude[/B], his clutch ability, his defense, etc.[/QUOTE]
his leadership and attitude are fine..., and other than the GS series and maybe Miami he is clutch

[QUOTE=Richie2k6]Kobe, Lebron, Garnett, Nash and Wade are all better than Dirk. So he isn't top 5, MVP or no MVP. Simple.[/QUOTE]
Dirk > Nash & Wade

but not Kobe, Lebron, or KG

[quote=Carbine]This thread is infested with stupid people. Listen fellahs, the only real thing Dirk shines at in the NBA is offense. His offensive game is certainly top 5, most likely top 3.

But there is so many more little things, along with major things (defense, passing) that he's not great at. Or even above average. If he's not scoring he's not efecting the game like a top 5 player should and that limits his ability to put his mark on a game on a consistent basis.

I think Dirk is a top 3 player on offense. The other facets of the game is what brings him back out of the top 5. Things like leadership, his attitude, his clutch ability, his defense, etc.[/quote]
Great post. Some people need see that Dirk does have flaws and puts him not in the top 5. He has horrible defense, just average rebounds for being 7 foot and gets abused in the post even though he is 7 foot. His offense is great but he doesn't really do anything else on an amazing level.

[QUOTE=-primetime-]his leadership and attitude are fine..., and other than the GS series and maybe Miami he is clutch[/QUOTE]
"If we lose this game, our season is pretty much over."

Nice positive attitude to carry over to your teammates, Dirk. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Rockets(T-mac)]Great post. Some people need see that Dirk does have flaws and puts him not in the top 5. He has horrible defense, just average rebounds for being 7 foot and gets abused in the post even though he is 7 foot. His offense is great but he doesn't really do anything else on an amazing level.[/QUOTE]
his defense is not "horrible", but it is not all star level either

he doesn't get 10+ rebounds because he is not an inside player

he is an outside shooter, he doesn't play in the post...why can't people understand that about dirk?

Duncan
Kobe
Wade
Lebron
Nash
KG
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Jason Terry
Dirk

[QUOTE=Richie2k6]"If we lose this game, our season is pretty much over."

Nice positive attitude to carry over to your teammates, Dirk. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
what he is saying is "we need to win this one guys".

he is just as good of a leader as either Lebron or Kobe...probably better.

there are only 2 legit knocks against Dirk here...

A. he choked against GS, and maybe Miami

B. he isn't an all star defensive player

and that is it.