Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=HoopsNY;14573692]No context provided for
1) The height of the defensive era vs. a defenseless era
2) The fact that MJ was 3 years removed from the league
3) A 2 year age difference
4) Stats that include both pre and post arthroscopic knee surgery
And most of all, impact. As Maddog mentioned, you're not considering impact, especially when we consider casts. I don't believe the gap between the two are wide, but I do believe MJ's overall impact at age 38 is more meaningful. You can take LeBron, I choose differently.[/QUOTE]
My numbers were taken from the 2003 season. Or when Jordan was 40. He also played a handful of games at 39, the season prior. Any way you slice it, MJ was better than his raw numbers. If his knee held up, he would've both had MVP consideration and his team in the playoffs.
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=Johnny32;14573696]The topic of discussion has clearly been 37 yr old legoat vs 38 year old poor mans cuttino mobley, window licker.[/QUOTE]
Wrong retard. The "topic of discussion" was my quote to Hoops. 02 Jordan also played a handful of games at 39. Get your facts straight.
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
If, could, wah, blah, when will they face reality and realize it was all a lie. Probably never. Plz luv their jordone, even when he was a below average inefficient chucker and a negative defender, plz.
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=Johnny32;14573702]If, could, wah, blah, when will they face reality and realize it was all a lie. Probably never. Plz luv their jordone, even when he was a below average inefficient chucker and a negative defender, plz.[/QUOTE]
40 year old Jordan impacted the game like a top 5 sg. Against players damn near half his age! Lol why does that upset you? :confusedshrug:
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=MadDog;14573700]Wrong retard. The "topic of discussion" was my quote to Hoops. 02 Jordan also played a handful of games at 39. Get your facts straight.[/QUOTE]
Look how desperate she is to argue about anything besides jordone's below league average shameless inefficient chucking. Can't blame her...it's pretty hard to defend.
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=Johnny32;14573704]Look how desperate she is to argue about anything besides jordone's below league average shameless inefficient chucking. Can't blame her...it's pretty hard to defend.[/QUOTE]
Autist32 wants to ignore objective data lol. Sorry retard, but impact>efficiency.
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
Summary: lebron's scoring efficiency is top 1 tier. Jordone's scoring efficiency was below league average.
For those just catching up! LeYawn.
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=Johnny32;14573706]Summary: lebron's scoring efficiency is top 1 tier. Jordone's scoring efficiency was below league average.
For those just catching up! LeYawn.[/QUOTE]
How much impact does Lebron's efficiency having now?
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
guess the thread just reads more players prefer to play like the current Lebron over Wizards Jordan
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
Lebron failed to make the playoffs with 4 other players who were top 75 all time and included two guys who won league mvp on the same team missed the playoffs.
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs[/url]
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
36 year old Jordan won an NBA championship, NBA MVP, Finals MVP, scoring title, AND hit the game winning shot in the freaking Finals.
So suddenly LeBron's 37 year old season doesn't look like shit by comparison, lol.
Fact is it was much harder to score in the late 90s/early 2000s and many players had lower shooting percentages, LeBron himself didn't have a season of above .500 shooting until his 7th year in the league when the NBA was all guns forward on opening the game up for more scoring.
We didn't really get to see what Wizards Jordan could do, because just as he was getting into shape and starting to push the Wizards into playoff position and getting his scoring average up to 26 ppg (which would be more like 30-32 ppg in the current no defense league), he suffered a torn knee and that type of injury can derail a 25 year old's career, a 39 year old ... forget it.
If this year's Lakers had a Wizards Jordan, but the version pre-knee injury ... they make the playoffs IMO (not even just a play in team).
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
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Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=HoopsNY;14573692]No context provided for
1) The height of the defensive era vs. a defenseless era
2) The fact that MJ was 3 years removed from the league
3) A 2 year age difference
4) Stats that include both pre and post arthroscopic knee surgery
And most of all, impact. As Maddog mentioned, you're not considering impact, especially when we consider casts. I don't believe the gap between the two are wide, but I do believe MJ's overall impact at age 38 is more meaningful. You can take LeBron, I choose differently.[/QUOTE]
Too much correct context and and factual logic here. Not designed for dumb haters or newbies lol
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=Soundwave;14573930]36 year old Jordan won an NBA championship, NBA MVP, Finals MVP, scoring title, AND hit the game winning shot in the freaking Finals.
So suddenly LeBron's 37 year old season doesn't look like shit by comparison, lol.
Fact is it was much harder to score in the late 90s/early 2000s and many players had lower shooting percentages, LeBron himself didn't have a season of above .500 shooting until his 7th year in the league when the NBA was all guns forward on opening the game up for more scoring.
We didn't really get to see what Wizards Jordan could do, because just as he was getting into shape and starting to push the Wizards into playoff position and getting his scoring average up to 26 ppg (which would be more like 30-32 ppg in the current no defense league), he suffered a torn knee and that type of injury can derail a 25 year old's career, a 39 year old ... forget it.
If this year's Lakers had a Wizards Jordan, but the version pre-knee injury ... they make the playoffs IMO (not even just a play in team).[/QUOTE]
Another person who actually knows what he is talking about..
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=TheGoatest;14573602]Damn... DE-stroyed! :oldlol:
Jordan extremist alts are going to do their best to ignore such factual evidence. Bu... bu... but "inflated stats era" :roll:
Wizards Jordan was flat out a poor basketball player, no matter how you slice it. Comparing him to this era, comparing him to averages of his own era or any previous era.[/QUOTE]
A poor basketball player who had his team at #2 with his right hand man injured alot of games.
Lebron is the most awesome player ever who cant even make the play in LOL
