Cooper Flagg Discussion Thread

Coop covers a ridiculous amount of ground per dribble. Look at the clip at 1:15 below:

[url]https://twitter.com/Frankie_Vision/status/1864533690375680039[/url]

[img]https://i.ibb.co/gTVQbJt/9cspas.gif[/img]

Coop has a lot of potential for a Siakam-esque post-up game. He's got all the qualities to do it:

- Strong, wide-bodied frame with a sturdy base
- Great reach and span
- Long strides and good footwork
- Absorbs contact well + seeks contact
- Elite two-footed jumper
- Good shooting touch 15ft and in
- Hard-to-block high release on jump shot

I'd like to see him work from the mid-post more when they go to him for an iso instead of trying to take guys off the dribble from the three-point line. Especially in the clutch. The main benefit would be turnover reduction.

His perimeter/SF/off-the-dribble game needs work but he looks like he's suited to a PF style of offense. Playing from the elbow/mid-post where everything is one dribble to the rim. Think KG, Bosh, Amar'e, Webber, BooZer, etc

[video=youtube;qKH7DNGAcbI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKH7DNGAcbI[/video]

I don't see him ever becoming an elite first option in the NBA, and that's fine.

He could be a solid 3rd guy on a playoff team with legit two way impact. Maybe make a couple of all star games.

[QUOTE=3ba11;14958835]Let's take Brandon Ingram and make him worse in every way = Cooper Flagg[/QUOTE]

:roll:

[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;14961303]Coop covers a ridiculous amount of ground per dribble. Look at the clip at 1:15 below:

[url]https://twitter.com/Frankie_Vision/status/1864533690375680039[/url]

[img]https://i.ibb.co/gTVQbJt/9cspas.gif[/img][/QUOTE]

He's extremely coordinated for his size and strength.

I'm thinking a mix of Tatum and AK 47 is kind of apt. If he keeps growing and is more 6'10 to 6'11ish, then you could get into a mix of guys like Nance, Chambers, Cliff Robinson, and Detlef. I don't think you can really pinpoint one player.

When it comes to the KG comp, KG is for all intetns and purposes the FIRST positionless 7 foot two way player in the league. Flagg has postionless qualities too of course. BUT guys like KG and Giannis are in their own league for what they do around that 7 foot mark. IN terms of positonless two way 7 foot players. BUT Flagg could grow to be closer to their height. So that could be more apt as time goes on. But as of now, I'm diggin the Tatum-AK 47 comp.

[QUOTE=bizil;14961428]I'm thinking a mix of Tatum and AK 47 is kind of apt. If he keeps growing and is more 6'10 to 6'11ish, then you could get into a mix of guys like Nance, Chambers, Cliff Robinson, and Detlef. I don't think you can really pinpoint one player.

When it comes to the KG comp, KG is for all intetns and purposes the FIRST positionless 7 foot two way player in the league. Flagg has postionless qualities too of course. BUT guys like KG and Giannis are in their own league for what they do around that 7 foot mark. IN terms of positonless two way 7 foot players. BUT Flagg could grow to be closer to their height. So that could be more apt as time goes on. But as of now, I'm diggin the Tatum-AK 47 comp.[/QUOTE]

I like it. The OG Thorpesaurus said this about the Flagg-Tatum similarities:

[QUOTE=Thorpesaurous;14927450]I get a little of another one and done Dukie. Jason Tatum. The size is closer to PF, but not quite filled out. But the off the bounce shooting and in transition finishing has a little Tatum in it. He's better than Tatum was at that age on D, and on the glass, but Tatum rounded into a pretty high level rebounder. Flagg's a better shot blocker, and seems like a slightly better athlete in general. But he definitely reminds me of him in a bunch of ways.[/QUOTE]

Tatum/AK-47 lines up with that pretty well.

Highlights from tonight's win:

[video=youtube;iHjiJ015B08]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHjiJ015B08[/video]

[url]https://x.com/brhoops/status/1865928299635265781[/url]

- 20 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 steals, 1 block
- 8-17 FG, 1-3 3PT, 3-3 FT

I don't feel the Tatum comparisons at all, Coop is just bigger, wider and longer and looks to drive more than Tatum, takes longer strides and is more aggressive.

I get more of a KD feel except the shooting, but in the way he attacks the basket with long strides.

Aside from shooting he looks really good. Problem is that shooting is a pretty big issue in today's NBA. I counted only two made shots outside 3 feet.

This draft class is pretty strong. If the draft was today I probably take Harper before Flagg.

which nba team will get him? wiz? or will the spurs get the lucky bounce again :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=90sgoat;14961789]I don't feel the Tatum comparisons at all, Coop is just bigger, wider and longer and looks to drive more than Tatum, takes longer strides and is more aggressive.

I get more of a KD feel except the shooting, but in the way he attacks the basket with long strides.[/QUOTE]

BUT KD's the best shooting SF of ALL TIME! So shooting is a HUGE PART of KD's arsenal. He's a 50-40-90 guy. Plus KD is in that 6'11 to 7 foot range. That's why I said a Tatum-AK 47 combination. Tatum has put on weight and gotten stronger since's he's been in the league. And he plays mainly at the PF spot. And Tatum plays MORE PHYSICAL than KD does. AND has more positional versatility as a defender. And when you throw AK-47 stuff into the mix, that gives the freak athletic aggressive nature part. With Flagg,you can't compare him to just one player. He's a mix of some guys.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14961793]Aside from shooting he looks really good. Problem is that shooting is a pretty big issue in today's NBA. I counted only two made shots outside 3 feet.

This draft class is pretty strong. If the draft was today I probably take Harper before Flagg.[/QUOTE]

I’d probably still take Cooper first because of the 2 way impact he absolutely will have.

Harper reminds of a lefty SGA at times though. Not overly athletic but so smooth and crafty. Converts on every level.

Ace Bailey has been a little disappointing. His shot-making ability is absurd but that’s kind of it at the moment. No play-making or defense. He just kind of does his own thing.

[QUOTE=bizil;14961797]BUT KD's the best shooting SF of ALL TIME! So shooting is a HUGE PART of KD's arsenal. He's a 50-40-90 guy. Plus KD is in that 6'11 to 7 foot range. That's why I said a Tatum-AK 47 combination. Tatum has put on weight and gotten stronger since's he's been in the league. And he plays mainly at the PF spot. And Tatum plays MORE PHYSICAL than KD does. AND has more positional versatility as a defender. And when you throw AK-47 stuff into the mix, that gives the freak athletic aggressive nature part. With Flagg,you can't compare him to just one player. He's a mix of some guys.[/QUOTE]

I never watched AK-47 play so that won't work for me lol.

I would say maybe Clifford Robinson? Played and guarded 3 through 5 and had that long build but moved like a big guard.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14961798]I’d probably still take Cooper first because of the 2 way impact he absolutely will have.

Harper reminds of a lefty SGA at times though. Not overly athletic but so smooth and crafty. Converts on every level.

Ace Bailey has been a little disappointing. His shot-making ability is absurd but that’s kind of it at the moment. No play-making or defense. He just kind of does his own thing.[/QUOTE]

You must not have watched Bailey much if you think he doesn't play defense. From what I have seen he is a good defender. He has a good motor, is very vocal and uses his speed and length effectively.

I don't see the big two way impact with Flagg. He gets a lot of easy buckets because of his size and athleticism right now but he won't get as many at the next level. When he has to rely on skill the results haven't been great. His jumper has been bad so far, from midrange and from 3.

He isn't going to be a big rim protector in the NBA. He's only averaging 2 blocks per 40 minutes in college. That's less than half what Clingan had last season.