The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH

the bumping of this thread makes me question one thing:

how is Loki banned, but this KB24PAH guy and Sir Charles are still allowed to post? :wtf:

[QUOTE=Godfather]Lol if you think Shaq is another version of Wilt. Prime Shaq would steal Wilt's lunch put him in a coffin and bury him. God knows what he would have done to the 6'9'' 225 pound Russell.[/QUOTE]


Young Shaq Prime Shaq Old Fat Shaq has never dominated the league like Wilt has and Wilt played against 4 Top 50 OF all time Centers

[quote=Niquesports]Young Shaq Prime Shaq Old Fat Shaq has never dominated the league like Wilt has and Wilt played against 4 Top 50 OF all time Centers[/quote]

Please if Shaq toughest competition was Russel paired with players 6'10'' and under we all know Shaq would dominate them.

Not to mention Wilt never dominated the league the way Shaq did in three consecutive finals.

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle][B]TALK ABOUT THE PLAYERS WHO YOU BELIEVE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER ON THE LIST, ARE WAY TO HIGH ON THE LIST. ALSO TALK DISCUSS PLAYERS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE TOP 100 AND PLAYERS THAT HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING ON THIS LIST.[/B]


[I]Insidehoops has finally gotten through with it’s 100 Greatest Players list in 100 days (well probably 108 days, I wasn‘t here a couple of days and they went on a while longer). There is a bunch of great players, some hall of famers who didn’t even make this list.[/I]


-Gilbert Arenas
-Rolando Blackman
-Walter Davis
-Cliff Hagan
-Lou Hudson
-Gus Johnson
-Marques Johnson
-Bobby Jones
-Bill Laimbeer
-Lafayette Lever
-Ed MaCauley
-Jermaine O’Neal
-Jim Pollard
-Micheal Ray Richardson
-Jack Sikma
-Rudy Tomjanovich
-Chet Walker
-Paul Westphal
Just to name a few…


[I]Thanks to everyone from insidehoops who participated in these threads over the past 100+ days. I’m pretty sure everyone learned something they didn’t know before after voting and reading up on players.[/I]


#100 - Mark Aguirre. Mark Aguirre played in an era where the small forward was one of the deepest positions. #5, #12, #43, #58, #60, #61, #71 and #83 were all SF’s he had to play nightly. He held his own with the Dallas Mavericks and latter as a Piston. He made all of him NBA All-Star appearances and his highest scoring average (29.5) with Dallas. He was traded for #71 and helped Dallas win back to back titles as he played with #20, #47 and #62.

| PPG 20 | RPG 5 | APG 3.1 |
[B]3 NBA All-Star Games
Field Goal attempts leader
2 NBA Championships[/B]


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[B][U]ISH 100 Greatest NBA Players of All-Time[/U][/B]
1. Michael Jordan
2. Wilt Chamberlain
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Earvin 'Magic' Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Bill Russell
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Oscar Robertson
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Tim Duncan
11. Jerry West
12. Julius Erving
13. Moses Malone
14. Elgin Baylor
15. Bob Pettit
16. John Havlicek
17. Karl Malone
18. George Mikan
19. David Robinson
20. Isiah Thomas
21. Charles Barkley
22. John Stockton
23. Bob Cousy
24. Kobe Bryant
25. Rick Barry
26. Scottie Pippen
27. Clyde Drexler
28. Gary Payton
29. Willis Reed
30. Patrick Ewing
31. Allen Iverson
32. Walt Frazier
33. Elvin Hayes
34. George Gervin
35. Jason Kidd
36. Dave Cowens
37. Kevin Garnett
38. Bob McAdoo
39. Nate Thurmond
40. Wes Unseld
41. Kevin McHale
42. Dolph Schayes
43. Dominique Wilkins
44. Bill Walton
45. Sam Jones
46. Kevin Johnson
47. Dennis Rodman
48. Dirk Nowitzki
49. Steve Nash
50. Billy Cunningham
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51. Nate 'Tiny' Archibald
52. 'Pistol' Pete Maravich
53. Tracy McGrady
54. Hal Greer
55. Jerry Lucas
56. Robert Parish
57. Earl 'the Pearl' Monroe
58. Bernard King
59. Artis Gilmore
60. Alex English
61. James Worthy
62. Joe Dumars
63. Bill Sharman
64. Reggie Miller
65. Paul Arizin
66. Sidney Moncrief
67. Dave DeBusschere
68. Dave Bing
69. David Thompson
70. Lenny Wilkens
71. Adrian Dantley
72. Bob Lanier
73. Neil Johntson
74. Walt Bellamy
75. Vince Carter
76. Spencer Haywood
77. Ray Allen
78. Dennis Johnson
79. Paul Pierce
80. Dikembe Mutombo
81. Connie Hawkins
82. Chris Webber
83. Chris Mullin
84. Grant Hill
85. Mitch Richmond
86. Dan Issel
87. 'Jumpin' Joe Fulks
88. Alonzo Mourning
89. Shawn Kemp
90. Mark Price
91. Anfernee 'Penny' Hardaway
92. Tommy Heinsohn
93. George McGinnis
94. Tim Hardaway
95. Mel Daniels
96. Bob Davies
97. Tom Chambers
98. Maurice Cheeks
[B]99. Ben Wallace[/B]
100. Mark Aguirre

[B]#100 Greatest Player Voting[/B]
[U]Mark Aguirre = 8 votes[/U]
Gilbert Arenas = 3 votes
Lafayette Lever = 3 votes
Jim Pollard = 2 votes
Bobby Jones = 1 vote
Bill Laimbeer = 1 vote
Ed MaCauley = 1 vote
Rik Smits = 1 vote

[B]
Number 101 seems to be a tie between Gilbert Arenas and Fat Lever...[/B]


[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57656"]Official #100 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH[/URL][/QUOTE]

This is a fairly biased list considering almost half of the players are those who are still playing in the league. Besides, how come Ben Wallace is ranked at top 100 while Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton are not? I'm also pretty sure CP3 and Deron are already better than Ben Wallace ever was...

[QUOTE=Godfather]Please if Shaq toughest competition was Russel paired with players 6'10'' and under we all know Shaq would dominate them.

Not to mention Wilt never dominated the league the way Shaq did in three consecutive finals.[/QUOTE]


Well if Wilt ever had to play against centers as weak as the ones that Shaq played against in 3 title he would have dominated also.With the exception of Mutombo Shaq hasnt played against any center worth mentioning in a finals oh my bad he did get his butt whipped when he faced Hakeem.

[quote=The Nets]This is a fairly biased list considering almost half of the players are those who are still playing in the league. Besides, how come Ben Wallace is ranked at top 100 while Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton are not? I'm also pretty sure CP3 and Deron are already better than Ben Wallace ever was...[/quote]

CP3 yes, Deron no. Prime Ben Wallace was the most dominating defensive force in the 00's, he definitely deserves a spot on this list above Billups (Ben had a very good case for the finals mvp), Hamilton, and Deron.

[QUOTE=Godfather]CP3 yes, Deron no. Prime Ben Wallace was the most dominating defensive force in the 00's, he definitely deserves a spot on this list above Billups (Ben had a very good case for the finals mvp), Hamilton, and Deron.[/QUOTE]


Ben just happened to be just the center the Pistons needed he has been a below average center before he got to the pistons and since he left.

[quote=Niquesports]Well if Wilt ever had to play against centers as weak as the ones that Shaq played against in 3 title he would have dominated also.With the exception of Mutombo Shaq hasnt played against any center worth mentioning in a finals oh my bad he did get his butt whipped when he faced Hakeem.[/quote]

How many years in the league when he got "whipped" by Hakeem (btw another player that would have made Wilt his b[B]i[/B]tch).

[QUOTE=Godfather]CP3 yes, Deron no. Prime Ben Wallace was the most dominating defensive force in the 00's, he definitely deserves a spot on this list above Billups (Ben had a very good case for the finals mvp), Hamilton, and Deron.[/QUOTE]

This is why 2000s is a weak era. Ben Wallace could have been owned completely in more than half of his game if he had played in 1980s and 1990s while he's regarded as one of the best centers in 2000s...

[quote=Niquesports]Ben just happened to be just the center the Pistons needed he has been a below average center before he got to the pistons and since he left.[/quote]

He was out of his prime when he went to the Bulls (good job Bulls front office). All that matters is that with the Pistons Ben Wallace won 4 defensive player of the year awards, had 4 all star appearances, 6 All-NBA defensive teams, and 5 ALL NBA teams (3 2nd team 2 third).

What are you talking about? Ben Wallace is one of the greatest defensive Center of all time, and he's a 4X NBA Defensive Player of the Year.

That's very impressive for a guy that was undrafted in the 1996 NBA Draft, and his real height is only 6'7".

[QUOTE=Godfather]How many years in the league when he got "whipped" by Hakeem (btw another player that would have made Wilt his b[B]i[/B]tch).[/QUOTE]


How many years was Russ in the league before he won his first title ?????
At least you admit that Hakeem gave Shaq the Jail house booty snatch with no vasiline.

[quote=The Nets]This is why 2000s is a weak era. Ben Wallace could have been owned completely in more than half of his game if he had played in 1980s and 1990s while he's regarded as one of the best centers in 2000s...[/quote]

In the 1980's/1990's he would have still been considered an excellent defender (imagine Ben Wallace being allowed to hand check :eek:). No doubt the 00's was a weaker era for Big Men, but doens't ignore the fact you could take the top 15 centers from the 00's and have any one of them being considered a HOF in Wilt's era.

[QUOTE=Lebron23]What are you talking about? Ben Wallace is one of the greatest defensive Center of all time, and he's a 4X NBA Defensive Player of the Year.

That's very impressive for a guy that was undrafted in the 1996 NBA Draft, and his real height is only 6'7".[/QUOTE]

Because he's in Cavaliers? :confusedshrug:

I'm not actually a Ben Wallace hater and I hate nobody, but ranking Ben Wallace at top 100 is just freaking ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Godfather]He was out of his prime when he went to the Bulls (good job Bulls front office). All that matters is that with the Pistons Ben Wallace won 4 defensive player of the year awards, had 4 all star appearances, 6 All-NBA defensive teams, and 5 ALL NBA teams (3 2nd team 2 third).[/QUOTE]

Well if he was past his prime with the Bulls and now the Cavs what did he do before he got to the pistons he was a below than avg center true he was a very good banger but for real he's just another Charles oakley