Kobe 360 dunk at 2011 Kobe Academy

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]1 on 1? Well, it depends.

If its on the wing post? Defenders would rather have Lebron shoot than drive....while they would rather have Kobe drive than shoot.

Just making a move off the dribble one on one? Yea, they actually started to get defended more similarly because Lebron lost a little.

[B]However, Lebron never consistently beat guys off the dribble. It was always on a pick and roll set or in transition or a secondary break.
[/B]

You go way too far about Lebron's lack of athleticism now and give Kobe way too much credit.

Trust me, the last thing any coach wants to see is Kobe getting open jumpers now. They want him driving to the basket and finishing. With Lebron? Yes, its changed a little, but teams still would rather see him shooting than attacking.

That is the difference.[/QUOTE]

been trying to tell this guy that for some time. Lebron one v. one with a live dribble looking to score has never been his strong suit.

Didn't think IG would answer; pretty much defeats his entire argument. He'd rather debate pointless equivocal crap than stick to the original premise.

so what's so special about it?? it's a dunk that i'd estimate 90% of black nba players 6'4" or above can do.

[QUOTE=DCL]so what's so special about it?? it's a dunk that i'd estimate 90% of black nba players 6'4" or above can do.[/QUOTE]

:oldlol:

People keep mentioning that he's 32 and played 40k minutes but shit...he keeps himself in shape and is 6'6 with long ass arms. Plus, it was a dunk off a bounce. That alone makes it less impressive than it really is.

Much better angle:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Y3LDFhZYNQw#at=17[/url]

I'm just glad Kobe didn't dunk on a little kid & act hard.
That was a nice dunk for someone who is pushing into his mid-30's. Hell, I can't even dunk so that was an impressive dunk on any level.

Matt barnes! :oldlol:

[QUOTE=catch24]The fact you latch onto a hypothetical scenario shows how deluded you are.[/quote]

What? This hypothetical scenario has everything to do with what we've been discussing so far, and your refusal to answer it pretty much exposes your entire argument for Kobe >>> LeBron.

[quote]Answer the question.[/quote]

:oldlol:

This is an honest question, what purpose would my answer serve? What does Kobe's mileage have anything to do with what we've been talking about?

[QUOTE=Indian guy]What? This hypothetical scenario has everything to do with what we've been discussing so far, and your refusal to answer it pretty much exposes your entire argument for Kobe >>> LeBron.[/quote]

Uhhh, LMAO? It has nothing to do with what we've discussed because you nor I can give an accurate opinion without the data we have available for current Kobe/LeBron.

So no, it doesn't. Let me in on what you're smoking, pronto.


[quote]This is an honest question, what purpose would my answer serve? What does Kobe's mileage have anything to do with what we've been talking about?[/QUOTE]

Honest to goodness. It's perfectly relevant, and I'll tell you why after you answer. Again, does Kobe at 32 have more mileage than LeBron at 26? Yes or no?

[QUOTE=catch24]It has nothing to do with what we've discussed because you nor I can give an accurate opinion without the data we have available for current Kobe/LeBron.[/quote]

That's why it's called HYPOTHETICAL, genius. Assume for argument's sake that these 3 great shooters have equivalent numbers from 10-23 feet. Now, would you still deem Kobe the far better shooter based on his FT%? Considering that's your entire argument for Kobe "easily" being better than LeBron, this hypothetical becomes completely relevant given our discussion. So just answer the question, you're only exposing yourself by not doing so.

[quote]It's perfectly relevant, and I'll tell you why after you answer.[/quote]

:oldlol:

Tell me why it's relevant first.

[QUOTE=Indian guy]That's why it's called HYPOTHETICAL, genius. Assume for argument's sake that these 3 great shooters have equivalent numbers from 10-23 feet. Now, would you still deem Kobe the far better shooter based on his FT%? Considering that's your entire argument for Kobe "easily" being better than LeBron, this hypothetical becomes completely relevant given our discussion. So just answer the question, you're only exposing yourself by not doing so.[/quote]

It's almost stupefying how bad your posts have been this thread.

Everyone here, who has posted, knows what a hypothetical is - the example which included MJ in '98 and Tmac in '03 was one. Not sure if you've been reading or just skimming through posts only to get another one of your silly replies in, but I've already said I don't wanna go off a "hypothetical". My opinion, like yours, just isn't taken seriously without evidence. Until you come up with Tmac and Jordan's shooting charts those years, they're irrelevant to the discussion.

Find your brain.

[quote]Tell me why it's relevant first.[/QUOTE]

I've answered all your questions. Stop being such a p*ssy and answer the question.

Indian guy getting out debated again SMH :facepalm

[QUOTE=catch24]
Not sure if you've been reading or just skimming through posts just to get another one of your silly replies in, but I've already said I don't wanna go off a "hypothetical".[/quote]

"I don't want to" is not an adequate response. Half the threads on this board are hypothetical scenarios. I see quite a few posts from you in the [i]Replace MJ with Kobe[/i] thread, so clearly you don't have an issue with making assumptions. Yet do so in this thread because it clearly doesn't serve your purpose. You're pussying out because you know you'd look like an idiot for [i]easily[/i] picking Kobe over 2 great shooters just because of FT%.

[quote]Stop being such a p*ssy and answer the question.[/QUOTE]

Don't see the point in answering a question that couldn't be less relevant to the topic.

[QUOTE=Indian guy]"I don't want to" is not an adequate response. Half the threads on this board are hypothetical scenarios. I see quite a few posts from you in the [i]Replace MJ with Kobe[/i] thread, so clearly you don't have an issue with making assumptions. Yet do so in this thread because it clearly doesn't serve your purpose. You're pussying out because you know you'd look like an idiot for [i]easily[/i] picking Kobe over 2 great shooters just because of FT%.[/quote]

Going off a hypothetical would defeat the purpose of the debate. We've been listing their shooting %'s from the field. Why entertain something we simply have no evidence for? Sorry if I don't find that productive.

Clearly you live in a fantasy world.

[quote]Don't see the point in answering a question that couldn't be less relevant to the topic.[/QUOTE]

You'd be surprised how relevant it is if you're man enough to answer. Man up, p*ssy boi.

some one wanna give me cliffs on this debate...don't want to read 10 pages