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And yet, you waste your own time to pop in and reply with this?
BTW, I get similar responses quite often...and then the poster goes on to dispute something I claimed in my post. But, yes, they, like you, didn't read it.
[QUOTE=jlauber]And yet, you waste your own time to pop in and reply with this?
BTW, I get similar responses quite often...and then the poster goes on to dispute something I claimed in my post. But, yes, they, like you, didn't read it.[/QUOTE]
Don't worry - anyone who posts a GIF automatically loses any argument, since it proves they are a kid who doesn't know what they're talking about.
There are only about ten people who use this website who actually know anything about the history of the game.
[QUOTE=WillC]Don't worry - anyone who posts a GIF automatically loses any argument, since it proves they are a kid who doesn't know what they're talking about.
There are only about ten people who use this website who actually know anything about the history of the game.[/QUOTE]
Tragically, this is true.
[QUOTE=WillC]Don't worry - anyone who posts a GIF automatically loses any argument, since it proves they are a kid who doesn't know what they're talking about.
There are only about ten people who use this website who actually know anything about the history of the game.[/QUOTE]
And you're one of them? :facepalm
Go and fall in love with them quotes, doggie.
[QUOTE=WillC]Thanks. I wish I had more time for my blog. One of my articles was published in MVP magazine this month, which is the fourth time I've had an article published.
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:applause: :bowdown:
Nice. I'll definitely read more of those articles later. Did you have any offers for writing for other sites? You seem to be really good.
[QUOTE=millwad]Well, obviously that's not true but Wilt's competition his first year wasn't that good, you know that and you've even said it yourself. [B]In his 50 point per game season the lack of height[/B] and skillset around the league was obvious and the tall one's a la Swede Halbrook, Walter Dukes etc really wasn't anything special..
Although in all Wilt faced good competition in all, I'll get it if someone uses the competition in his early years against him, I do it too but in all he proved himself against some great centers.[/QUOTE]
:roll:
Official list heights today (and since ~1980's) have been complete media-hype BS, where as in his era they were generally much closer to the players "in stockings" height. In 1/4 inch thick shoes there really was no such thing "in shoes" height bc there would be no point anyways. Some guys were rounded down (6'9.5 Bill Russell became 6'9, 7'1 1/16th Wilt Chamberlain became 7'1), Jerry west is between 6'2.5-6'2.75 barefoot but for the first half of his career he was listed 6'2 until they bumped him to 6'3... some guys were rounded up (7'1 5/8 KAJ and 7'1 5/16th Artis Gilmore both listed to 7'2). But no guys were like Dwight ****ing Howard (6'9 barefoot, 6'10.25 in shoes, 6'11 official listed height) or any of the rest of the clowns in today's league who are no-where near their actual height.
D. Howard, #1 center in the league today. 6'9... How come 7'1.25" Hasheem Thabeet isn't tearing up the ****in record books today!?
Don't answer that because you'll just say something retarded. Instead just read every single one of these player heights from that NBA 1961-1962 season, when Wilt scored 50.4ppg. It's complete from starters down to the last bench player. Then go right ahead and compared them with all the calculated NBA barefoot measurements displayed on Draft Express from 1989-present as per this tool: [url]http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?page=avepos&year=All&source=All&draft=100&sort=[/url]...
[B]Pure Guards (Let's call them the Point Guards:[/B]
Bob Cousy G 6-1
K.C. Jones G 6-1
Gary Phillips G 6-3
Al Attles G 6-0
York Larese G 6-4
Guy Rodgers G 6-0
Al Bianchi G 6-3
Larry Costello G 6-1
Paul Neumann G 6-1
George Blaney G 6-1
Donnie Butcher G 6-2
Al Butler G 6-2
Richie Guerin G 6-4
Whitey Martin G 6-2
Sam Stith G 6-2
Hot Rod Hundley G 6-4
Bob McNeill G 6-1
Bobby Smith G 6-4
Jerry West G 6-2
Bucky Bockhorn G 6-4
Adrian Smith G 6-1
Dave Zeller G 6-1
Johnny Egan G 5-11
Willie Jones G 6-3
Chuck Noble G 6-4
Don Ohl G 6-3
Gene Shue G 6-2
Jimmy Darrow G 5-10
Dick Eichhorst G 6-3
Vern Hatton G 6-3
Cleo Hill G 6-1
Johnny McCarthy G 6-1
Lenny Wilkens G 6-1
Howie Carl G 5-9
Ralph Davis G 6-4
York Larese G 6-4
Slick Leonard G 6-3
1961-62 Season, 37 active, avg = 6-1.89"
1989-2011 NBA draft (sample size avail, 93) avg = 6-1.02"
[I](Point guards of that season averaged over 3/4 of an inch taller than modern point guards of 1989-present)[/I]
[B]Guard/Forward swingmen (Let's call them the Shooting Guards):[/B]
Carl Braun G-F 6-5
Sam Jones G-F 6-4
Frank Ramsey F-G 6-3
Paul Arizin F-G 6-4
Ed Conlin F-G 6-5
Tom Gola G-F 6-6
Hal Greer G-F 6-2
Bill Smith G-F 6-5
Frank Selvy G-F 6-3
Oscar Robertson G-F 6-5
Jack Twyman F-G 6-6
George Lee F-G 6-4
Jackie Moreland F-G 6-7
Al Ferrari G-F 6-4
Si Green G-F 6-2
Cliff Hagan F-G 6-4
Fred LaCour G-F 6-5
Bob Sims G-F 6-5
Andy Johnson F-G 6-5
Jack Turner G-F 6-5
1961-62 Season, 20 active, avg = 6-4.45"
1989-2011 NBA draft (sample size avail, 90) avg = 6-3.76"
[I](Shooting guards of that season average over half an inch taller than shooting guards of 1989-present)[/I]
[B]Pure Forwards (Let's call them the Small Forwards):[/B]
Gene Guarilia F 6-5
Jim Loscutoff F 6-5
Tom Sanders F 6-6
Ted Luckenbill F 6-6
Tom Meschery F 6-6
Frank Radovich F 6-8
Dave Gambee F 6-6
Joe Roberts F 6-6
Chuck Osborne F 6-6
Lee Shaffer F 6-7
Dave Budd F 6-6
Ed Burton F 6-6
Doug Kistler F 6-9
Elgin Baylor F 6-5
Tom Hawkins F 6-5
Bob Boozer F 6-8
Joe Buckhalter F 6-7
Bob Wiesenhahn F 6-4
Bailey Howell F 6-7
Shellie McMillon F 6-5
S. Arceneaux F 6-4
Horace Walker F 6-3
Barney Cable F 6-7
Ron Horn F 6-7
George Bon S. F 6-8
1961-62 Season, 25 active, avg = 6-6.08"
1989-2011 NBA draft (sample size avail, 91) avg = 6-6.40"
[I](The average small forward height of that season is only 1/3rd of an inch less than the average small forwards drafted between 1989-present)[/I]
[B]Forward/Centers (Let's call them the Power Forwards):[/B]
Tom Heinsohn F-C 6-7
Joe Ruklick F-C 6-9
Joe Graboski F-C 6-7
Red Kerr C-F 6-9
Dolph Schayes F-C 6-7
C. Buckner F-C 6-9
Johnny Green F-C 6-5
Phil Jordon C-F 6-10
Willie Naulls F-C 6-6
Howie Jolliff F-C 6-7
Jim Krebs C-F 6-8
Rudy LaRusso F-C 6-7
Wayne Embry C-F 6-8
Hub Reed C-F 6-9
Bob Ferry C-F 6-8
Ray Scott F-C 6-9
Larry Foust C-F 6-9
Clyde Lovellette C-F 6-9
Bob Pettit F-C 6-9
W. Sauldsberry F-C 6-7
Archie Dees F-C 6-8
Joe Graboski F-C 6-7
Dave Piontek F-C 6-6
Charlie Tyra C-F 6-8
1961-62 Season, 24 active, avg = 6-7.83"
1989-2011 NBA draft (sample size avail, 127) avg = 6-7.95"
[I](The power forwards average height that season is negligible in comparison with all modern power forwards from 1989-present... less than 1/8th of an inch)[/I]
[B]Players strictly listed as Centers:[/B]
Bill Russell C 6-9 (1/2)
Wilt Chamberlain C 7-1 (1/16)
Swede Halbrook C 7-3
Darrall Imhoff C 6-10
Ray Felix C 6-11
Wayne Yates C 6-8
Bevo Nordmann C 6-10
Walter Dukes C 7-0
Walt Bellamy C 6-11
1961-1962 Season, 9 active, avg = 6-11.06" (6-10.81" excluding Wilt)
1989-2011 NBA draft (sample size avail, 67) avg = 6-10.44"
[I](Centers of that season averaged over 1/4 of an inch taller than modern centers, and that is if we exclude Wilt - the difference is more than 1/2 an inch if we included him)[/I]
Players get divided this way because in 61-62 there were only 3 recognized positions. G, F, C - and guys that would swing between basically had identical team roles to "SG, PF". [url]www.basketball-reference.com[/url] has done an excellent job at indicating the players that were pulling double-duties between 2 positions.
Where's the "short league" evidence!? That looks like a tall year in the G, SG, and Center spots... Tell me Millwad, has your brain ever thought "hey... maybe I should look this shit up first..."? Or are you just a blind sheep that likes to ejaculate hear-say slander and myth about Wilt's era. :hammerhead:
P.S. about the "skillsets"... :roll: GTFO kid, what the hell do you know about skillsets from that time. Name 5 guys that came off the bench from 1961-62 season, then explain to me from your expert scouting perspective, some of the strengths and weaknesses in their game...
:confusedshrug: Help us out bro your the expert
[QUOTE=PTB Fan]:applause: :bowdown:
Nice. I'll definitely read more of those articles later. Did you have any offers for writing for other sites? You seem to be really good.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the kind words.
I got asked if I'd like to write for ballislife.com, which might still happen. I've also written for FadeAway (which was the name of MVP Magazine before they changed their title).
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[QUOTE=PTB Fan]:applause: :bowdown:
Nice. I'll definitely read more of those articles later. Did you have any offers for writing for other sites? You seem to be really good.[/QUOTE]
But you can tell by his stuff here! He will definitely get more.... That's for sure.
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]:roll:
Official list heights today (and since ~1980's) have been complete media-hype BS, where as in his era they were generally much closer to the players "in stockings" height. In 1/4 inch thick shoes there really was no such thing "in shoes" height bc there would be no point anyways. Some guys were rounded down (6'9.5 Bill Russell became 6'9, 7'1 1/16th Wilt Chamberlain became 7'1), Jerry west is between 6'2.5-6'2.75 barefoot but for the first half of his career he was listed 6'2 until they bumped him to 6'3... some guys were rounded up (7'1 5/8 KAJ and 7'1 5/16th Artis Gilmore both listed to 7'2). But no guys were like Dwight ****ing Howard (6'9 barefoot, 6'10.25 in shoes, 6'11 official listed height) or any of the rest of the clowns in today's league who are no-where near their actual height.
D. Howard, #1 center in the league today. 6'9... How come 7'1.25" Hasheem Thabeet isn't tearing up the ****in record books today!?
Don't answer that because you'll just say something retarded. Instead just read every single one of these player heights from that NBA 1961-1962 season, when Wilt scored 50.4ppg. It's complete from starters down to the last bench player. Then go right ahead and compared them with all the calculated NBA barefoot measurements displayed on Draft Express from 1989-present as per this tool: [url]http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-...raft=100&sort=[/url]...
[B]Pure Guards (Let's call them the Point Guards:[/B]
Bob Cousy G 6-1
K.C. Jones G 6-1
Gary Phillips G 6-3
Al Attles G 6-0
York Larese G 6-4
Guy Rodgers G 6-0
Al Bianchi G 6-3
Larry Costello G 6-1
Paul Neumann G 6-1
George Blaney G 6-1
Donnie Butcher G 6-2
Al Butler G 6-2
Richie Guerin G 6-4
Whitey Martin G 6-2
Sam Stith G 6-2
Hot Rod Hundley G 6-4
Bob McNeill G 6-1
Bobby Smith G 6-4
Jerry West G 6-2
Bucky Bockhorn G 6-4
Adrian Smith G 6-1
Dave Zeller G 6-1
Johnny Egan G 5-11
Willie Jones G 6-3
Chuck Noble G 6-4
Don Ohl G 6-3
Gene Shue G 6-2
Jimmy Darrow G 5-10
Dick Eichhorst G 6-3
Vern Hatton G 6-3
Cleo Hill G 6-1
Johnny McCarthy G 6-1
Lenny Wilkens G 6-1
Howie Carl G 5-9
Ralph Davis G 6-4
York Larese G 6-4
Slick Leonard G 6-3
1961-62 Season, 37 active, avg = 6-1.89"
1989-2011 NBA draft (sample size avail, 93) avg = 6-1.02"
[I](Point guards of that season averaged over 3/4 of an inch taller than modern point guards of 1989-present)[/I]
[B]Guard/Forward swingmen (Let's call them the Shooting Guards):[/B]
Carl Braun G-F 6-5
Sam Jones G-F 6-4
Frank Ramsey F-G 6-3
Paul Arizin F-G 6-4
Ed Conlin F-G 6-5
Tom Gola G-F 6-6
Hal Greer G-F 6-2
Bill Smith G-F 6-5
Frank Selvy G-F 6-3
Oscar Robertson G-F 6-5
Jack Twyman F-G 6-6
George Lee F-G 6-4
Jackie Moreland F-G 6-7
Al Ferrari G-F 6-4
Si Green G-F 6-2
Cliff Hagan F-G 6-4
Fred LaCour G-F 6-5
Bob Sims G-F 6-5
Andy Johnson F-G 6-5
Jack Turner G-F 6-5
1961-62 Season, 20 active, avg = 6-4.45"
1989-2011 NBA draft (sample size avail, 90) avg = 6-3.76"
[I](Shooting guards of that season average over half an inch taller than shooting guards of 1989-present)[/I]
[B]Pure Forwards (Let's call them the Small Forwards):[/B]
Gene Guarilia F 6-5
Jim Loscutoff F 6-5
Tom Sanders F 6-6
Ted Luckenbill F 6-6
Tom Meschery F 6-6
Frank Radovich F 6-8
Dave Gambee F 6-6
Joe Roberts F 6-6
Chuck Osborne F 6-6
Lee Shaffer F 6-7
Dave Budd F 6-6
Ed Burton F 6-6
Doug Kistler F 6-9
Elgin Baylor F 6-5
Tom Hawkins F 6-5
Bob Boozer F 6-8
Joe Buckhalter F 6-7
Bob Wiesenhahn F 6-4
Bailey Howell F 6-7
Shellie McMillon F 6-5
S. Arceneaux F 6-4
Horace Walker F 6-3
Barney Cable F 6-7
Ron Horn F 6-7
George Bon S. F 6-8
1961-62 Season, 25 active, avg = 6-6.08"
1989-2011 NBA draft (sample size avail, 91) avg = 6-6.40"
[I](The average small forward height of that season is only 1/3rd of an inch less than the average small forwards drafted between 1989-present)[/I]
[B]Forward/Centers (Let's call them the Power Forwards):[/B]
Tom Heinsohn F-C 6-7
Joe Ruklick F-C 6-9
Joe Graboski F-C 6-7
Red Kerr C-F 6-9
Dolph Schayes F-C 6-7
C. Buckner F-C 6-9
Johnny Green F-C 6-5
Phil Jordon C-F 6-10
Willie Naulls F-C 6-6
Howie Jolliff F-C 6-7
Jim Krebs C-F 6-8
Rudy LaRusso F-C 6-7
Wayne Embry C-F 6-8
Hub Reed C-F 6-9
Bob Ferry C-F 6-8
Ray Scott F-C 6-9
Larry Foust C-F 6-9
Clyde Lovellette C-F 6-9
Bob Pettit F-C 6-9
W. Sauldsberry F-C 6-7
Archie Dees F-C 6-8
Joe Graboski F-C 6-7
Dave Piontek F-C 6-6
Charlie Tyra C-F 6-8
1961-62 Season, 24 active, avg = 6-7.83"
1989-2011 NBA draft (sample size avail, 127) avg = 6-7.95"
[I](The power forwards average height that season is negligible in comparison with all modern power forwards from 1989-present... less than 1/8th of an inch)[/I]
[B]Players strictly listed as Centers:[/B]
Bill Russell C 6-9 (1/2)
Wilt Chamberlain C 7-1 (1/16)
Swede Halbrook C 7-3
Darrall Imhoff C 6-10
Ray Felix C 6-11
Wayne Yates C 6-8
Bevo Nordmann C 6-10
Walter Dukes C 7-0
Walt Bellamy C 6-11
1961-1962 Season, 9 active, avg = 6-11.06" (6-10.81" excluding Wilt)
1989-2011 NBA draft (sample size avail, 67) avg = 6-10.44"
[I](Centers of that season averaged over 1/4 of an inch taller than modern centers, and that is if we exclude Wilt - the difference is more than 1/2 an inch if we included him)[/I]
Players get divided this way because in 61-62 there were only 3 recognized positions. G, F, C - and guys that would swing between basically had identical team roles to "SG, PF". [url]www.basketball-reference.com[/url] has done an excellent job at indicating the players that were pulling double-duties between 2 positions.
Where's the "short league" evidence!? That looks like a tall year in the G, SG, and Center spots... Tell me Millwad, has your brain ever thought "hey... maybe I should look this shit up first..."? Or are you just a blind sheep that likes to ejaculate hear-say slander and myth about Wilt's era. :hammerhead:
P.S. about the "skillsets"... :roll: GTFO kid, what the hell do you know about skillsets from that time. Name 5 guys that came off the bench from 1961-62 season, then explain to me from your expert scouting perspective, some of the strengths and weaknesses in their game...
:confusedshrug: Help us out bro your the expert[/QUOTE]
Wow! That's some first post :cheers: and Welcome.
[QUOTE=jlauber]First of all, the idiotic OP claimed that Wilt faced two players who were 7-0 in his CAREER. I just listed 14 seven-footers that played in the Chamberlain-era, and another 13 who would be listed at 7-0 in TODAY's game...or TWENTY-SEVEN of them.
Secondly, in Wilt's "scoring" prime, he not only was scoring 50-60-70 points against 7-0 Reggie Harding, 7-3 Swede Halbrook, 7-0 Walter Dukes, and 6-11 Ray Felix...he had SEASONS, covering 9+ games in a season, of 40.1 ppg against Reed; 43.7 ppg and get this, 52.7 ppg against 6-11 HOFer Walt Bellamy; 39.7 ppg and 38.1 ppg against 6-10 HOFer Bill Russell (who was a WORLD-CLASS high-jumper with a 7-4 wingspan); as well as a string of 11 straight games against 6-11 Nate Thurmond, in which he averaged 30 ppg (including games of 30, 33, 34, 34, 38, and even 45 points.) BTW, find me a game in which Kareem scored 38 points against a starting Nate Thurmond, much less 45 points...and Kareem faced him in some 50 H2H games. And even as late as Wilt's 71-72 season, he was scoring 29 ppg in 5 H2H games against 6-11 HOFer Bob Lanier.
And that does not include his absolute DOMINATION in terms of rebounding. You would be hard-pressed to find very many single games in Chamberlain's entire career, in which he was outrebounded. Russell, who was the game' second greatest rebounder of all-time, managed to outrebound Chamberlain in 42 H2H games, most of them barely. BUT, Wilt outrebounded Russell in 92, and in many he just murdered Russell. And Chamberlain faced Thurmond in three playoff series, and outrebounded him by margins of 28.5 to 26.7 rpg, 23.5 rpg to 19.5 rpg, and a 36 year old Chamberlain had a 23.6 to 17.2 rpg edge in Wilt's LAST playoff run. Even in the first one, which was their closest series. Wilt outrebounded Thurmond in 5 of those 6 games.
And how about FG%'s? In the VAST majority of H2H games against virtually any of the MANY HOFers Chamberlain faced, he outshot them, including Kareem, even at way past his peak. He outshot a prime Thurmond in those three straight playoff series by margins of .500 to .392; .550 to .398; and a staggering .560 to .343 margin in the '67 Finals. Kareem faced an older Thurmond in three straight playoff series, and shot .486, .428, and an eye-popping .405 from the floor against him.
And once again, the uneducated posters, like yourself, just look at Wilt's 50 ppg season, in a league of nine teams. Of course, Wilt faced Russell in 10 games (and Boston in 12), and averaged 39.7 ppg against him (with a high game of 62.) He faced Bellamy in 10 games, and all he could do was score 52.7 ppg against him (with a high game of 73.) He faced the 6-11 Ray Felix in eight games, and averaged 51.5 ppg in those games, including three of 60+, and a high game of 78. He was pouring in games of 50+ against 7-3 Swede Halbrook and 7-0 Walter Dukes. He had 100 points in a game against 6-10 Darrell Imhoff (granted Imhoff was one of three centers who tried to guard Wilt in that game.) He also battled the 6-9, 240 lb. Clyde Lovellette, who averaged 20.8 ppg that season, three times (Lovellete was injured for 1/2 the season), and Wilt had games of 39, 39, and 53 against him. And multiple all-star 6-9 Red Kerr was routinely surrendering 50+ point games to Chamberlain.
But, here again, a Chamberlain in his 64-65 season, averaged 40.1 ppg against Reed. In his 65-66 season, he averaged 33.0 ppg against Bellamy; 28.9 against Thurmond; 28.3 against Russell (and 31 rpg as well), and then in the playoffs, he averaged 28 ppg, 30 rpg, and shot .509 against Russell. In fact, his 65-66 season was probably the most dominant season ever against an entire league. He was CRUSHING Thurmond, Bellamy, and Russell in those games, as well as pounding the rest of the league. He led the league in scoring, at 33.5 ppg; in rebounding, at 24.6 rpg; and set a then-record FG% mark of .540; oh and he also averaged 5.2 apg.
A 66-67 Chamberlain averaged 24.1 ppg, on .683 shooting, with 24.2 rpg, and 7.8 apg, And he was reducing the best centers to under 40% shooting in the known H2H matchups (in the playoffs,he held Dierking to .427, Russell to .358, and Thurmond to .343 shooting...all while shooting .579 himself in those games.)
A 67-68 Chamberlain had games of 52, 53, 53, and 68 points. In one of those 53 point games, he added 32 rebounds and 14 assists (and 7 blocks.) In that 68 point game, he grabbed 37 rebounds.
A 68-69 Wilt, in his 10th season, went on a 17 game tear in which he shelled every center in the league. He had games of 23 against Thurmond, 31 against Reed, and 35 against Russell...as well as 60 against Dierking and 66 against 6-10 Jim Fox.
A 69-70 Wilt, in his 11th season, was asked to step up offensively, and he responded by LEADING the league in scoring in his first nine games, at 32.2 ppg (and on about 60% shooting.) In those nine games he put up games of 33 (on 13-13 shooting), 35, 37 (against 7-0 Tom Boerwinkle), 38 (against reigning MVP Wes Unseld), 42 (against star center Bob Rule), and 43 points. He also pounded Kareem in one game, with a 25-25 game on 9-14 shooting. He blew out his knee in that ninth game, or he might have went on to win his eighth scoring title...at age 33.
Even in his LAST season, at age 36, he went H2H with Kareem in six regular season games, and outshot Kareem in those six games by a staggering .737 to .450 margin (which even included one game in which he outscored Kareem, 24-21, while outshooting Kareem, 10-14 to 10-27.) Then, in his LAST post-season, covering 17 games, all he did was average 22.5 rpg...which was the last time a player ever averaged as much as 17.3 ppg in the post-season.
Once again...Wilt faced players like Lovellette, Embry, Reed, Bellamy, Unseld, Hayes, Cowens, Lanier, Thurmond, Russell, Kareem, and even Gilmore...ALL in the HOF.
So, the fact was, no matter who Chamberlain faced, whether it be other seven-footers, of which there were quite a few in smaller leagues (from 8 to 17 team leagues) or the many HOFers, he was generally outplaying them all. Even into his LAST season. And all of that certainly blows up this theory that Wilt only feasted on helpless 6-6 centers in his career (which was the real intention of the OP BTW.)[/QUOTE]
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CavaliersFTW just shut this thread down.
On his first post too. Props :cheers:
[QUOTE=WillC]Thanks for the kind words.
I got asked if I'd like to write for ballislife.com, which might still happen. I've also written for FadeAway (which was the name of MVP Magazine before they changed their title).
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[img]http://urban-nerds.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/fadeaway-magazine-issue-3-jan-2010-15603-p.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Nice. :applause:
[QUOTE=Pointguard]But you can tell by his stuff here! He will definitely get more.... That's for sure.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
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