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[QUOTE=nathanjizzle]:facepalm answer the question. who or what created god? did god pop out of thin air? isnt that the exact ideal you are contradicting, that the universe didnt pop out of nowhere? so god didnt either if there was one.[/QUOTE]
To say God "popped up out of thin air" implies that He was created. Think of a circle. can you put your finger on any point on a circle? No. God always was, is, and is to come. He didnt pop up, He was always there.
[QUOTE=DonDadda59]So God had an intelligent designer who created him or God does not exist. Could not possibly exist, per your logic.
Problem solved- the Polytheists were right from the beginning. :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
Then how did the "first God" get here (the one who created God number 2 and so on?) What? You have an eternity of past Gods creating newer Gods? Do you hear how stupid that sounds? It would take MORE FAITH to believe that spiel than to believe there's just ONE God and HE is the eternal One.
[QUOTE=CleveTown™] [B]He didnt pop up, He was always there.[/B][/QUOTE]
from your original post "[B]everything needs to be created[/B]". well i guess i can argue that "the universe was always there" and god isnt a thing.
[QUOTE=nathanjizzle]from your original post "[B]everything needs to be created[/B]". well i guess i can argue that "the universe was always there" and god isnt a thing.[/QUOTE]
so you worship the creation (the universe) rather thanthe creator (God).
Rom 1:
Therefore God gave them up in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another. 25[B][U]They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator, who is forever worthy of praise! Amen. [/U][/B]26For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. [U]Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.
This is something we will NEVER find out. Our chances of finding out if alien life exist is much higher.
[QUOTE=Draz]This is something we will NEVER find out. Our chances of finding out if alien life exist is much higher.[/QUOTE]
you will find out God exists when you die or if Jesus comes back in your life time
[QUOTE=CleveTown™]so you worship the creation (the universe) rather thanthe creator (God).
Rom 1:
Therefore God gave them up in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another. 25[B][U]They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator, who is forever worthy of praise! Amen. [/U][/B]26For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. [U]Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.…[/U]
Boom.
And look at the natural progression, next you will be (or already are) dishonoring your body with other men. lol, you're so depraved, breh.[/QUOTE]
you quoted a verse from a book i dont give a **** about and you think i should care? :roll: typical creationist applying your beliefs to someone who is a non believer :roll: you forgot the point that i dont believe your bullshit, so why are you qouting bullshit to me?
[QUOTE=Draz]This is something we will NEVER find out. Our chances of finding out if alien life exist is much higher.[/QUOTE]
if aliens exists, which they do, creationism will become extinct.
[QUOTE=nathanjizzle]you quoted a verse from a book i dont give a **** about and you think i should care? :roll: typical creationist applying your beliefs to someone who is a non believer :roll: you forgot the point that i dont believe your bullshit, so why are you qouting bullshit to me?[/QUOTE]
well then you are condemned right where you stand. You are faced with the facts and you deny them and stick yur head in the sand. That won't bode well with you on Judgment day.
[QUOTE=nathanjizzle]if aliens exists, which they do, creationist religion will become extinct.[/QUOTE]
uh no it won't, it will magnify the Lord even more! His wondrous creation knows no bounds or limits!
[QUOTE=CleveTown
[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Oh, I hear ya.
But again, this is a system based on YOUR logic.
Anything that exists must've been created. If it was not created, it does not exist.
Logic.[/QUOTE]
and your logic is "nothing is impossible".. anyone can say that, but you have to look at the probability of creation just popping up without a creator, which is
0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%
[QUOTE=CleveTown
[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Where are you getting your numbers from? [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/m4Idw.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
reality.
the HOLY BIBLE (which is totally reliable given all of the divine prophesies that have came true) says you will be cursed because you preach a different gospel.
BOOM:
Galatians 1:7-9
[U][B]No Other Gospel[/B][/U]