Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
[QUOTE=ELITEpower23;14012456]How many rings does MJ win without Pippen? 0, or 1?[/QUOTE]
He nearly beat the Pistons in 89' and 90' despite 10 ppg from Pippen
He easily wins with KJ (who beat Magic's 1 seeded Lakers in 90') or Worthy who owned the Bad Boys
KJ or Worthy would 3-peat with MJ from 88-90', while pippen was aids... Pippen simply won the "play with MJ" lottery, so the winning spotlight inflated his inferior stats
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
How did Lebron lose to a career loser in Dwight Howard who never beat anyone else.
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
[QUOTE=ELITEpower23;14012456]How many rings does MJ win without Pippen? 0, or 1?[/QUOTE]
Also notice they diss Pippen 24/7 but rarely compare him to the opposing #2's. They were, on finals and ECF opponents: Dumars, Worthy, Daughtery, Porter, Starks, Johnson, Penny, Kemp, Hardaway, Stockton, Smits. Pippen easily is the best of the bunch. I know Stockton is ranked a few spots behind Pippen all-time but peak wise and prime wise they aren't close.
Pippen consistently outplayed these guys--a luxury not all legends have had from their #2...
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
Orlando that year in that series had the worst backcourt of all time in Rafer Alston and a Rookie SG in Courtney Lee.
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
They got Shaq in 2010 for this purpose but never faced Dwight. Cleveland in 2009 was more built for Boston and Cleveland in 2010 more built for Orlando but vice versa happened on who they played.
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
Who did the Magic have in 2009? They were one of the biggest underdogs to ever win a playoff series - everyone thought the Cavs would beat them easily.. So a strong team wasn't needed to win the conference.. The 00's East is the only conference in history that was won by a bunch of 1-star teams (Iverson, Kidd, Lebron, Dwight), so Lebron formed a super-team in a conference that 1-star teams were winning - that's the definition of stacking the deck..
Btw, the Cavs only won 45 games in 2008 - so Mo Williams didn't join a good team and wasn't coattailing.. He infact made that team good (21 more wins), which is why he was an all-star despite getting less PPG and APG than before Lebron..
Here's an example that demonstrates the point - those Cavs had the #3 defense, compared to #19 for the 90' Bulls, while Mo was better offensively than Pippen across the board (scoring, efficiency, PER, BPM, VORP, WS/48).. Then they added a 22/9 player in 2010 (Jamison), but Lebron's skill restriction to ball-dominance turned him into a spot-up shooter and 15/8 stats..
Lebron did this with Hughes and Ingram too - so his skill restriction to ball-dominance imposes spot-up roles that stall young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (team-hopping, talent-based winning).. Talent-based winning loses to organic ball-movement, so Lebron has a lottery record against the Spurs, Mavs and Warriors..
Ultimately, Lebron stacked the deck with super-teams for 7 years (11-17') and KD stacked the deck for 4 years (17', 18', 19', 21'), while Giannis won by not stacking the deck (goat-caliber).. People forget that Bosh was a 6x all-star before Lebron, while Pau was 1x before Kobe.. And Wade had a 28 PER and 9 BPM in 2010, compared to 21 and 4 for Kobe.. So Lebron teamed up with the rich man's version of Kobe-Pau, while Durant joined a 1 seed.. Otoh, Giannis started with a 15-win team and persevered until he was champions.. Accordingly, I have Giannis above both KD and Lebron because he learned to WIN (organic), while they only learned to team-hop.. I don't blame KD so much because Lebron shut the league down with super-teams from 2011-2016, so KD had to respond to Lebron's deck-stacking..
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
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Btw, the Cavs only won 45 games in 2008 - so Mo Williams didn't join a good team and wasn't coattailing.. He infact made that team good (21 more wins), which is why he was an all-star despite getting less PPG and APG than before Lebron..
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Before Scottie joined, the Bulls NEVER won over .500 WITH 1-9. Scottie carried them. In fact, 1-9 NEVER had a winning record without Scottie. :roll: :roll:
All LeBron needed to win 60 games was a role-player in Mo.
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
So did Jordan get bronze medal or lose a series with HCA?
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14486378]So did Jordan get bronze medal or lose a series with HCA?[/QUOTE]
I’m not quite sure to tell you the truth.
Anyone know?
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14486378]So did Jordan get bronze medal or lose a series with HCA?[/QUOTE]
1-9
Out scored by Terry
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[QUOTE=TheCorporation;14486419]1-9
Out scored by Terry[/QUOTE]
0-12 and 2 bronze medals. 0 titles in 11 years for franchise that drafted you
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[QUOTE=TheCorporation;14486419]1-9
Out scored by Terry[/QUOTE]
100% correct
Jason terry 18
Lebron james 17 lolololol
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
Answer to the initial question
Lebron forgot to switch to the 5 to counter Howard. A very big missed opportunity since he is elite at center too.
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
[QUOTE=2much_knowledge;14486451]Answer to the initial question
Lebron forgot to switch to the 5 to counter Howard. A very big missed opportunity since he is elite at center too.[/QUOTE]
Nah, he couldn't really guard real centers. Just those weak 3 point/soft ones.
He said so himself that Dwight is too strong for him.
His defensive versatility is highly overrated.
Re: How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while havin
[QUOTE=Baller789;14486725]Nah, he couldn't really guard real centers. Just those weak 3 point/soft ones.
He said so himself that Dwight is too strong for him.
[B]His defensive versatility is highly overrated[/B].[/QUOTE]
Not being able to effectively guard the best center in the league doesn’t mean he wasn’t extremely versatile defensively.