Put DeMar DeRozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?

How is Pippen top 75 if he would be 2nd option to DeRozan and also 2nd option to Kukoc in the clutch?

How can a player be top 75 with zero instances of them having a top 75 performance?...

Giannis has the 2022 Finals.. Dirk has 2011 and Kawhi has 2019... Wade has the 2006 Finals and 2011 Finals run as 1st option... AD led the entire NBA in playoff scoring for his 2020 ring, which included domination of the future MVP Jokic.

So everyone has top 75 performances, while Pippen has a lot of performances that mirror Robert Horry's 95' Finals (18/10 on 55%) or JR Smith's 15' ECF (18/8 on 55%), or Larry Hughes' 2005 season (22/6/5 and 1st team defense) - this was Pippen's caliber - nowhere near top 75.. Only his ring count (which fueled his media awards) elevated his all-time ranking

But in reality, everyone wins 55 games like Ty Lawson in 2013 or Marc Gasol in 2015 or KJ in 89', but only Pippen gets top 75 credit for it.. it's preposterous.. And after the Bulls were no longer defending 3-peat champs (and exposed in the 94' Playoffs), they were borderline lottery in 95' until MJ returned to restore 3-peat capability.

[QUOTE=3ba11;14477039]How is Pippen top 75 if he would be 2nd option to DeRozan and also 2nd option to Kukoc in the clutch?

How can a player be top 75 with zero instances of them having a top 75 performance?...

Giannis has the 2022 Finals.. Dirk has 2011 and Kawhi has 2019... Wade has the 2006 Finals and 2011 Finals run as 1st option... AD led the entire NBA in playoff scoring for his 2020 ring, which included domination of the future MVP Jokic.

So everyone has top 75 performances, while Pippen has a lot of performances that mirror Robert Horry's 95' Finals (18/10 on 55%) or JR Smith's 15' ECF (18/8 on 55%), or Larry Hughes' 2005 season (22/6/5 and 1st team defense) - this was Pippen's caliber - nowhere near top 75.. Only his ring count (which fueled his media awards) elevated his all-time ranking

But in reality, everyone wins 55 games like Ty Lawson in 2013 or Marc Gasol in 2015 or KJ in 89', but only Pippen gets top 75 credit for it.. it's preposterous.. And after the Bulls were no longer defending 3-peat champs (and exposed in the 94' Playoffs), they were borderline lottery in 95' until MJ returned to restore 3-peat capability.[/QUOTE]


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[QUOTE=BigShotBob;14474520]2011[/QUOTE]

Isiah.

[url]https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/1493424878837374976[/url]

DeMar DeRozan last 6 games:

40 PTS | 67 FG%
38 PTS | 50 FG%
35 PTS | 64 FG%
36 PTS | 68 FG%
38 PTS | 59 FG%
45 PTS | 60 FG%

That’s the longest streak of 35-point games on 50% shooting in Bulls history. MJ never did it.

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Kawhi's 2019 run shows the difference between DeRozan and Jordan - DeRozan was getting his shit pushed in on the regular, while a poor man's Jordan came in and won the conference with a 1-star team in 2919 just like 01' Iverson, 02/03 Kidd, 07' Lebron, 09' Dwight, 20' Butler, aka most seasons outside of Lebron's super-team years (11-18')

[QUOTE=JohnMax;14538629][url]https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/1493424878837374976[/url]

DeMar DeRozan last 6 games:

40 PTS | 67 FG%
38 PTS | 50 FG%
35 PTS | 64 FG%
36 PTS | 68 FG%
38 PTS | 59 FG%
45 PTS | 60 FG%

That’s the longest streak of 35-point games on 50% shooting in Bulls history. MJ never did it.[/QUOTE]


[B]Nikola Vucevic last 8 games

[Url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/v/vucevni01/gamelog/2022#712-719-sum:pgl_basic]25/12/4 on 59%[/url][/B]


[SIZE=3]^^^^ [U]far[/U] better than peak Pippen

So DeRozan had an equal-scoring partner to attract equal defensive attention and therefore never defeated maximum defensive attention/burden like MJ

Only MJ faced maximum defensive attention for his entire career by having to carry the scoring load at all times (carry-job), while everyone else in history had periods without facing max defensive attention (equal-scoring partners), which boosts efficiency and lightens the load/burden[/SIZE].

[QUOTE=JohnMax;14538629][url]https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/1493424878837374976[/url]

DeMar DeRozan last 6 games:

40 PTS | 67 FG%
38 PTS | 50 FG%
35 PTS | 64 FG%
36 PTS | 68 FG%
38 PTS | 59 FG%
45 PTS | 60 FG%

That’s the longest streak of 35-point games on 50% shooting in Bulls history. MJ never did it.[/QUOTE]

GOAT Bulls shooting guard

[QUOTE=JohnMax;14538629][url]https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/1493424878837374976[/url]

DeMar DeRozan last 6 games:

40 PTS | 67 FG%
38 PTS | 50 FG%
35 PTS | 64 FG%
36 PTS | 68 FG%
38 PTS | 59 FG%
45 PTS | 60 FG%

That’s the longest streak of 35-point games on 50% shooting in Bulls history. MJ never did it.[/QUOTE]

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Lordan

[QUOTE=FireDavidKahn;14538916]:roll:

Lordan[/QUOTE]

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They could have won with Pete Myers but for the Hue Hollins phantom foul call. Championship lock with DeRozan, who would be the 2nd or 3rd best SG in the league in 94' after Drexler and maybe Richmond.

Why are people overrating DeMar all of a sudden?

He is a borderline HOF at best (unlike James Harden who is a guaranteed first ballot HOF).

If DeMar is so great, how come he has never made the All-NBA First Team? Unlike Harden, who has 6 All-NBA First Team selections.

[QUOTE=Mr. Woke;14539336]Why are people overrating DeMar all of a sudden?

He is a borderline HOF at best (unlike James Harden who is a guaranteed first ballot HOF).
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DeRozan is in a more stacked era for guards so he got lost in the shuffle. If he played in the 90s he would have gotten more notice. He is a better player than Reggie Miller was and look at how Miller is perceived. Miller never made a second team all-NBA, never was a MVP candidate. DeMar has done both (MVP candidate this year) and already has as many all-star selections as Miller did his entire career.

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;14539340]DeRozan is in a more stacked era for guards so he got lost in the shuffle. If he played in the 90s he would have gotten more notice. He is a better player than Reggie Miller was and look at how Miller is perceived. Miller never made a second team all-NBA, never was a MVP candidate. DeMar has done both (MVP candidate this year) and already has as many all-star selections as Miller did his entire career.[/QUOTE]

He is better than Miller for sure.

Miller is one of the most overrated players of all time.

[QUOTE=Mr. Woke;14539349]He is better than Miller for sure.

Miller is one of the most overrated players of all time.[/QUOTE]

:cheers:

[quote=roundball_rock;14539327]they could have won with pete myers but for the hue hollins phantom foul call. Championship lock with derozan, who would be the 2nd or 3rd best sg in the league in 94' after drexler and maybe richmond.[/quote]

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