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Wizards Jordan wasn't a net negative.
LeShrivel, the Lakers' dead weight, is.
OP is shook.
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[QUOTE=TheGoatest;14482067]LeBron haters trying to point out that LeBron had Larry Hughes on his 2007 finals squad while avoiding the subject of Jordan failing to make the playoffs that had a 50-32 #1 seed in the east while playing with Larry Hughes:
[IMG]https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Two-Buttons.jpg[/IMG]
:roll:
And here is a picture of Rip Hamilton just a couple years after he freed himself from the shackles of that ball hog:
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcrfPkBXsAAcSX4.jpg[/IMG]
Wizards Jordan wasn't even a top 25 player in the league.[/QUOTE] I agree
Wizards Jordan was garbage. Missed the playoffs in 2002 and 2003 season in the Weakstern Conference
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14703063]Wizards Jordan was garbage. Missed the playoffs in 2002 and 2003 season in the Weakstern Conference[/QUOTE]
:roll: You're a desperate idiot. Jordan got injured and was almost 40 years old. Your hero Bronie missed the playoffs in 2019. And got eliminated in the first round in 2021. And missed the playoffs with a super team in 2022. And he's in the lottery bracket again. And he's a net negative.
Just face it that your hero is barely top ten. And that's only because he's jumped to stacked teams. And he's also the greatest choker of all time.
[QUOTE=Full Court;14703064]:roll: You're a desperate idiot. Jordan got injured and was almost 40 years old. Your hero Bronie missed the playoffs in 2019. And got eliminated in the first round in 2021. And missed the playoffs with a super team in 2022. And he's in the lottery bracket again. And he's a net negative.
Just face it that your hero is barely top ten. And that's only because he's jumped to stacked teams. And he's also the greatest choker of all time.[/QUOTE]
West is better than the Lestern Conference
Lebron missed the playoffs with peak AD and Westbrook and also Melo and Dwight Howard and won even less games at that.
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14703066]West is better than the Lestern Conference[/QUOTE]
For the last couple years the east is way more stacked than the west. The best players, KD, Tatum, Giannis, Embiid, are all in the east. The west has Jokic. For teams that have a good chance of winning the finals, there's the Bucks, Celtics, Nets, and Cavs. In the West? Grizzlies. And maybe the Pelicans if a miracle happens.
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14703066]West is better than the Lestern Conference[/QUOTE]
honestly you need to STFU before I go to the Philippines and whip your ****ing ass....you are ****ing annoying....get a life dumb filipino monkey
This is actually one thing I will grant Bronnies, LeBron probably is better at age 38.
*That said* I think being a bit taller helps you age better as you don't need to jump quite as high to get your shot off, get dunks off, etc. Being 6'8 over 6'6 helps in this regard, Karl Malone is also about that size and we saw he was able to play effectively for a long time too.
Also I don't think Wizards Jordan was ever like 100% in shape. He kinda just decided on a whim to come back after not playing much for three years at an advanced age which probably isn't a good idea and then broke his ribs in the summer playing pick up, started to get back into shape and his numbers started to look good and then he tore his knee and you're not coming back from a knee tear at age 38/39, no way.
Beyond that I do think LeBron takes better care of his body, Jordan was an athletic freak with incredible body mass index and a pure athlete, don't get me wrong, but it seems like as his career went on he was into playing poker all night, smoking cigars, staying up for most nights, playing huge amounts of golf in-season ... while I think Jordan's great athleticism let him get away with doing that in his late 20s/30s and it was necessary to blow off steam given the fishbowl atmosphere he lived in, it's hard to pull that off at age 38/39.
That said though I do suspect LeBron is also taking illegal supplements to prolong his career. There's no way anyone with a straight face can say Wade wasn't on some shit in Miami when LeBron was there, and if Wade was doing it, I bet LeBron got hooked on it too. LeBron just didn't have the pre-existing knee conditions Wade had and probably these days is using something even better and harder to detect than 10 years ago.
Just saw an old article about Jordan being a ballhog when he played for the Wizards. Michael Jordan averaged more field goal attempts per game than points when he played for Wizards. 25 field goal attempts compared to 21 points per game.
Jordan wanted to score over 30,000 points. Winning is not his priority.
that's why that wizards team never made it in the playoffs. that team ain't bad relative to their era and competitions i meant the east sucks in the early 2000's.
[url]https://nypost.com/2001/11/29/but-jordan-must-change-his-ball-hoggin-ways/[/url]
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14730572]Just saw an old article about Jordan being a ballhog when he played for the Wizards. Michael Jordan averaged more field goal attempts per game than points when he played for Wizards. 25 field goal attempts compared to 21 points per game.
Jordan wanted to score over 30,000 points. Winning is not his priority.
that's why that wizards team never made it in the playoffs. that team ain't bad relative to their era and competitions i meant the east sucks in the early 2000's.
[url]https://nypost.com/2001/11/29/but-jordan-must-change-his-ball-hoggin-ways/[/url][/QUOTE]
Jordan won way more than LeShrivel with far fewer years of playing.
Jordan was the better player. Period. Your hero is a loser. Get over it.
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14730572]Just saw an old article about Jordan being a ballhog when he played for the Wizards. Michael Jordan averaged more field goal attempts per game than points when he played for Wizards. 25 field goal attempts compared to 21 points per game.
Jordan wanted to score over 30,000 points. Winning is not his priority.
that's why that wizards team never made it in the playoffs. that team ain't bad relative to their era and competitions i meant the east sucks in the early 2000's.
[url]https://nypost.com/2001/11/29/but-jordan-must-change-his-ball-hoggin-ways/[/url][/QUOTE]
They were trending to a playoff spot as he was getting into shape his first year there, then he had the knee injury which basically put a stop to that.
If he wanted to get it done the easy way he could've just signed with the Lakers and joined Phil with Shaq and Kobe, Phil tried to talk him into returning in 2000.
[QUOTE=Soundwave;14730621]They were trending to a playoff spot as he was getting into shape his first year there, then he had the knee injury which basically put a stop to that.
If he wanted to get it done the easy way he could've just signed with the Lakers and joined Phil with Shaq and Kobe, Phil tried to talk him into returning in 2000.[/QUOTE]
With Jordan massive ego. I don't think he can accept the fact that he only average 14-16 ppg if he plays with the Lakers. Jordan was statspadding in his Wizards days. He had plenty of games in which he scored in single digits.
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14730641]With Jordan massive ego. I don't think he can accept the fact that he only average 14-16 ppg if he plays with the Lakers. Jordan was statspadding in his Wizards days. He had plenty of games in which he scored in single digits.[/QUOTE]
He probably could still get 20+ a night with that run support, Phil wouldn't bring him there to do that to him. Kobe would have to wait a bit before he could go off on scoring sprees, but 28 Shaq, 22 Jordan, 22-23 Kobe is still only like 73 points.