80's vs 90's

[QUOTE=Sir Charles][B]Wrong the Celtics loved the Frontline-Post Up-Slow Game and Ruled The NBA with their Front-Line Witty Game. That is The Way they faced the Lakers (which was the ONLY Succesfull team playing A Fast Tempo Game, that is why they where called ShowTime because people loved their Winning at that Style). The Rest of the NBA Could Not Win With That Style, They Could Only Dream of Playing a Fast Paced Style and Beating Eastern Teams, Only the Lakers Could!

Plus in 1986 Celtics could Play both Styles and they Swept the Rockets with a HAKEEM-SAMSON (FRONTLINE!). The Team that Beat the 1986 Lakers with A PRIME MAGIC, A PRIME WORTHY and KAREEM still Scoring over 22-26 PPG with a FG% of 52-56% plus All The Crew: GREEN, SCOTT, COOPER etc[/B][/QUOTE]

all still in a faster paced league

[QUOTE=97 bulls]all still in a faster paced league[/QUOTE]

And if the '86 Celtics played in the mid 90's they would have won even more games because of...

A. Diluted NBA. weaker competition.

B. The Celtics were the greatest Half Court team in NBA history and with a slower paced mid 90's NBA they would have used it to their advantage.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers]And if the '86 Celtics played in the mid 90's they would have won even more games because of...

A. Diluted NBA. weaker competition.

B. The Celtics were the greatest Half Court team in NBA history and with a slower paced mid 90's NBA they would have used it to their advantage.[/QUOTE]

does someone pay you to say that? ive already dispelled the notion that the league wasnt waterd down. but, like i said you believe what you want to believe. not the truth. and the bulls were just as good a half court team if not better.

[QUOTE=97 bulls]does someone pay you to say that? ive already dispelled the notion that the league wasnt waterd down. but, like i said you believe what you want to believe. not the truth. and the bulls were just as good a half court team if not better.[/QUOTE]

The NBA was watered down in 1996 no question. And the Celtics were a better Half Court team than the Bulls no question.

[QUOTE=97 bulls]first of all im 34 and remember the 80s.you on the other hand on several occasions have referred to dennis johnon as the pg. let me help you ainge was the pg dj was the sg. the bulls also had a big line up. their staring guards were 6'6 taller than ainge and johnson not to mention harper was a pretty good basketball player himself.

second you you and 87 lakers obviously dont know the Xs and Os of basketball or never played it, and if you did you probably arent any good because you would know that you had to keep a man on rodman because of his offensive rebounding capability. not to mention by ron harpers own addmitsion he could still have been a 20ppg scorer but played his role on the bulls team defending the other teams pg and he did a hell of a job defending players like payton, stockton, and penny hardaway.i dont see him having a problem with ainge. not to mention the bulls could go even bigger if they opted to play kukoc at sf move pippen to pg and put williams at center. and why would pippen not be able to score from the pg position?

pippen 6'7 ainge 6'5
jordan 6'6 johnson 6'5
kukoc 6'11 bird 6'8
rodman 6'8 mchale 6'10
williams 6'11 parrish 7'0[/QUOTE]

[B]Let me give notice to you that Celtics played with a Combo Guard-Line Up

Ainge was a Better Shooter than DJ but Could Pass with PG Abbilities too
DJ was a Pure PG, Smarter, Defensive Player and was a Clutch Shooter. Could Rebound Asoume at 6`5 too.

Celtics would use their [U]Big Line Up[/U]:) to Kill the Bulls, Adding in Walton along Parish and McHale in the Frontline. So you have the following:

In their Prime:[/B]

[B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]C: PARISH (17-20 ppg, 55-60%FG, 9-11 RPG) [/COLOR]v.s [COLOR="Red"]C: WILLIAMS (LONGLEY,WELL)[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]CHIEF Wins Easy!:rolleyes: [/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]C-F: WALTON[/COLOR] ([U]Bulls Would have to Put in Another Center[/U] to Hold him from Rebounding and Scoring, And he Could Also Pass)

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Walton would Win That Roll Player! Plus Could Rebound, Block Shots, Had Clutch Game and from that Spot Could CREATE ASSITS :) [/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]PF: McHALE 6`10 (18-26 PPG, 60.4%Fg%, 8-9 RPG)[/COLOR] vs PF: RODMAN/GRANT

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]McHale Not Only Wins, Schools!!!. Id Suggest The Bulls Put in CENTER to Guard McHales 6`10 ft Post Play and his 7`2ft Arm Lenght Post :rolleyes: [/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]SG: BIRD 6`9 ft (3-Point Specialist, 29 PPG, 10 RPG, 6-8 ASPG)[/COLOR] vs [COLOR="Red"]KUKOC/PIPPEN[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Bird already Schooled Pippen a Better Defender than Kukoc at Age 33-35:rolleyes: [U]PAST HIS PHYSICAL PIME and AFTER HIS BACK INJURY[/U]. Kukoc would Guard him Well in the Post due to Height but he [U]Would Not Outrebound Him, Would Not Stop him from Scoring from A Far and Would Definetly Not Sop him from Getting PG ASSIT TYPE NUMBERS and Making His Team Better[/U]. Also If You have a 1979 to 1986 Bird. They you had a Much Faster Bird:oldlol:[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]PG: DJ (D Stopper, Assiter, Rebounder, Clutch Shooter)[/COLOR] vs [COLOR="Red"]Jordan (SG/PG)[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Red"]This is the only SPOT where the Bulls would win. But Jordan would be Slowed Down but DJs Witty Game and would have to Work if DJ Posted Him Up. DJ had a Fat Ass and was Great Rebounder for 6`5 ft. Jordan would win the 1 on 1 Game Obviously but he would Suffer in the Slow Front-Court Game with DJ. Then the Celtics would just Bring in DANNY AINGE to Make Jordan Run More and Danny would Get his Shots Off due to the Pick and Rolls designed by PARSIH, WALTON, McHALE and BIRD.[/COLOR]

[U][COLOR="Navy"]So here it is. If THE CELTICS BRING IN THEIR "TALL TEAM" (As They Did v.s The 1986 Rockets which had HAKEEM and SAMSON: Whom Beat a PRIME MAGIC, WORTHY, SCOTT, GREEN and KAREEM still scoring 23-26 PPG at a 53 TO 56% FG)...HOW CAN THE BULLS WIN? :rolleyes: :hammerhead:[/COLOR] [/U]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]CELTICS = DOMINATE 4 SPOTS[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Red"]BULLS= DOMINATE 1 SPOT[/COLOR][/B]

[B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]1986 CELTICS and Their BIG LINE UP [/COLOR]that Could Play [U]BOTH FAST AND SLOW TEMPO[/U] would [COLOR="DarkGreen"]OWN [/COLOR]the [COLOR="Red"]1996 BULLS[/COLOR]...EASY:confusedshrug: [/B]

I don't think the NBA was watered down in quality players (even though the greatest players played in the mid 80's. hehe) but it was definitely watered down quality teams. In just 8 years the NBA added 6 NBA Teams. It was really the Bulls vs any1 else in that era. Just look at the '97 and '98 Jazz. You had Stockton and Malone but the 3rd best player on that team was Jeff Hornacek. And you had Greg Ostertag and Bryon Russell in the starting line up. That team would not get you in the NBA finals in the mid 80's. No Way!

Like i said before...

Better Teams: 80's > 90's
Better Players: 80's > 90's
Better Rivalries: 80's > 90's

80's was the greatest decade in NBA History nobody can argue!!!

[QUOTE=Sir Charles][B]Let me give notice to you that Celtics played with a Combo Guard-Line Up

Ainge was a Better Shooter than DJ but Could Pass with PG Abbilities too
DJ was a Pure PG, Smarter, Defensive Player and was a Clutch Shooter. Could Rebound Asoume at 6`5 too.

Celtics would use their [U]Big Line Up[/U]:) to Kill the Bulls, Adding in Walton along Parish and McHale in the Frontline. So you have the following:

In their Prime:[/B]

[B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]C: PARISH (17-20 ppg, 55-60%FG, 9-11 RPG) [/COLOR]v.s [COLOR="Red"]C: WILLIAMS (LONGLEY,WELL)[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]CHIEF Wins Easy!:rolleyes: [/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]C-F: WALTON[/COLOR] ([U]Bulls Would have to Put in Another Center[/U] to Hold him from Rebounding and Scoring, And he Could Also Pass)

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Walton would Win That Roll Player! Plus Could Rebound, Block Shots, Had Clutch Game and from that Spot Could CREATE ASSITS :) [/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]PF: McHALE 6`10 (18-26 PPG, 60.4%Fg%, 8-9 RPG)[/COLOR] vs PF: RODMAN/GRANT

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]McHale Not Only Wins, Schools!!!. Id Suggest The Bulls Put in CENTER to Guard McHales 6`10 ft [U]Post Play [/U]and his 7`2f t Arm Lenght :rolleyes: [/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]SG: BIRD 6`9 ft (3-Point Specialist, 29 PPG, 10 RPG, 6-8 ASPG)[/COLOR] vs [COLOR="Red"]KUKOC/PIPPEN[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Bird (could play both SG/SF) already Schooled Pippen a "Better Defender" than Kukoc at Age 33-35:rolleyes: [U]PAST HIS PHYSICAL PIME and AFTER HIS BACK INJURY[/U]. Kukoc would Guard him Well in the Post due to Height but he [U]Would Not Outrebound Him, Would Not Stop him from Scoring from A Far and Would Definetly Not Sop him from Getting PG ASSIT TYPE NUMBERS and Making His Team Better[/U]. Also If You have a 1979 to 1986 Bird: Then you had a Much Faster Bird with a Back :oldlol:[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]PG: DJ (Defensive Player, a G Stopper, Assiter, Rebounder, Clutch Shooter)[/COLOR] vs [COLOR="Red"]Jordan (SG/PG)[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Red"]This is the only SPOT where the Bulls would win. But Jordan would be Slowed Down but DJs Witty Game and would have to Work if DJ Posted Him Up. DJ had a Fat Ass and was Great Rebounder for 6`5 ft. Jordan would win the 1 on 1 Game Obviously but he would Suffer in the Slow Front-Court Game with DJ. Then the Celtics would just Bring in DANNY AINGE to Make Jordan Run More and Danny would Get his Shots Off due to the Pick and Rolls designed by PARSIH, WALTON, McHALE and BIRD.[/COLOR]

[U][COLOR="Navy"]So here it is:

[U] If THE CELTICS BRING IN THEIR "TALL TEAM"[/U]. As They Did v.s The 1986 Rockets which had HAKEEM and SAMSON = Same Team that Beat a PRIME MAGIC, WORTHY, SCOTT, GREEN and also KAREEM still scoring 23-26 PPG at a 53 TO 56% FG)...

HOW CAN THE BULLS WIN? :rolleyes: :hammerhead:[/COLOR] [/U]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]CELTICS = DOMINATE 4 SPOTS[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Red"]BULLS= DOMINATE 1 SPOT[/COLOR][/B]

[B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]1986 CELTICS and Their BIG LINE UP [/COLOR]that Could Play [U]BOTH FAST AND SLOW TEMPO[/U] would [COLOR="DarkGreen"]OWN [/COLOR]the [COLOR="Red"]1996 BULLS[/COLOR]...EASY:confusedshrug: [/B][/QUOTE]


:violin:

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers]And if the '86 Celtics played in the mid 90's they would have won even more games because of...

A. Diluted NBA. weaker competition.

B. The Celtics were the greatest Half Court team in NBA history and with a slower paced mid 90's NBA they would have used it to their advantage.[/QUOTE]

[B]Amen :violin:

[B]Just Imagine their Big Line Up like Agains the Rockets in 1986 with

McHale-Parish and Walton. They would Destroyed the Bulls frontline!

Plus you also had Bird that could Play SG or SF and Still Get Triple Doubles and high Scoring Games in his Prime and DJ/Ainge Trading Spots throught the game (to tire off Jordan) and Maxwell coming in to damage offensively from the SG/SF spots too [/B]

No Question. 1986 Celtics Would Own the 1996 Bulls :rockon: [/B]

[QUOTE=Sir Charles]1980s = Greatest Era in NBA History. Period. End of Discussion:rockon: :confusedshrug:[/B][/QUOTE]

"The 80s" is not an era, so you should stop pretending like it was. It's not like the league magically changed when the calendar hit 1980 or 1990. An "era" has to have something distinct and definitive about it, otherwise you cannot define it as an era. The greatest era could be contended as 1985-1993.

[QUOTE=72-10]"The 80s" is not an era, so you should stop pretending like it was. It's not like the league magically changed when the calendar hit 1980 or 1990. An "era" has to have something distinct and definitive about it, otherwise you cannot define it as an era. The greatest era could be contended as 1985-1993.[/QUOTE]

Well it's definitely the greatest DECADE.:rockon:

I call the Celtics in six.

[B]If that :) [/B]

[QUOTE=Sir Charles]No Question. 1986 Celtics Would Own the 1996 Bulls :rockon: [/B][/QUOTE]

No, they would not. They would have difficulty entering the ball into the post since the Bulls had indisputedly the best perimeter defense in NBA history. They also had most probably the best full court pressing defense in NBA history. How the hell does 86 Celtics vs. 96 Bulls have relevance to this thread?

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers]Well it's definitely the greatest DECADE.:rockon:[/QUOTE]

Most probably, but that was established on about the 3rd page of this thread. Why do you insist on continually rambling on about it?

[QUOTE=Sir Charles]I call the Celtics in six.

[B]If that :) [/B][/QUOTE]

:)

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers]Well it's definitely the greatest DECADE.:rockon:[/QUOTE]

[B]1980s = The Best Decade in BASKETBAL, MUSIC (ROCK, POP, HAD ROCK, METAL, PROG ROCK edgin with the 70s, SOUL AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSIC, COUNTRY ROCK), CARS, CLOTHES, MOVIES...:rockon:

1982 = BEST SOCCER WORLD CUP EVER too[/B]:applause: