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[URL]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/2/27/21154544/gordon-hayward-enes-kanter-utah-jazz-news-boston-celtics-news[/URL]
[QUOTE]“That was the first time I was just not nervous,” Kanter said. “Every time I come here I’m usually really nervous, but now we got Gordon, who of course is going to get more boos.”
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why of course though? Kanter actually talked smack about Utah. Hayward just left for another team. It's embarrassing really
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Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gobert: “Even if we lost a few games that we think we should have won, we’re still in a good position.[/URL] We still wanna be a playoff team, and we still think if we do the right things, we can be very good. We’ve gotta figure it out now and finish the season on a high note.” pic.twitter.com/PK9kRmraoD
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjaz[/URL]z
Eric Walden: Rudy Gobert: I think (the defense) was day and night compared to the last three games. We still have some work to do, but overall we put ourselves in a position where we can win the game. … [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]For the most part, I think we are in the right path defensively.”[/URL] pic.twitter.com/G56EDlSkgp
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
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Mike Conley left shootaround on Wednesday morning a sixth man. [URL="https://theathletic.com/1639767/2020/02/27/lineup-changes-confusion-and-more-struggles-for-jazz-team-in-search-of-answers/?source=twittered"]He went home. He digested the news. And then he went and took his routine afternoon nap. He woke up a starter once again, his name a popular search on Twitter and social media[/URL].
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/1639767/2020/02/27/lineup-changes-confusion-and-more-struggles-for-jazz-team-in-search-of-answers/?source=twittered"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]
It was a move first reported by The Athletic. Head coach Quin Snyder inserted Royce O’Neale back into the starting group, while notifying Conley he would take on a bench role. A few hours later, it was Joe Ingles who went to the bench, with Conley remaining the starter. The moves made for a long day for everyone involved. And then a defeat that dropped them into the sixth spot in the Western Conference made for a long [URL="https://theathletic.com/1639767/2020/02/27/lineup-changes-confusion-and-more-struggles-for-jazz-team-in-search-of-answers/?source=twittered"]night. “I was told I was coming off the bench, and I took a nap and woke up and I was starting,” Conley said. “It just happened that way. We have to take more advantage of our transition chances. We have to avoid having the basketball stick.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/1639767/2020/02/27/lineup-changes-confusion-and-more-struggles-for-jazz-team-in-search-of-answers/?source=twittered"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]
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Andy Larsen: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bojan Bogdanovic: My whole career, I’ve been best after the All-Star break. I need to get back to the usual Bojan starting tonight[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/andyblarsen"]Twitter andyblarsen[/URL]
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Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bojan Bogdanovic: “I don’t care about my numbers. The team is losing and I’m playing bad, so I’m putting the pressure on my back, individually — that we are playing bad because of me.[/URL] So I have to step up, wake up, and play better.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
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[URL]https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2020/02/29/utah-jazz-washington/[/URL]
[QUOTE]It probably surprised people, but Bradley takes and makes those in his G-League games, so of course he’s capable of making the wide open ones in this level. Once, I saw him make 13 threes in a row in practice. That’s just practice, but it’s still pretty impressive!
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Better shooter than Favors. Time to let it fly! :cheers:
[QUOTE]I didn’t know who Aaron James was, so I Googled him. He played five seasons for the New Orleans Jazz. There are two good Aaron James stories in [URL="https://www.nola.com/sports/article_905a4006-f2d8-518a-927d-94fc8575f3dd.html"]this article[/URL]. First, Hod Rod Hundley, who even was the team’s radio voice way back then, had a catchphrase for him which was apparently “A.J. from the parking lot!” It wass to the point where it’s [URL="https://allstatesugarbowl.org/classic/aaron-james-hall-of-fame-2012/"]still James’ nickname[/URL].
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He used from the parking lot later. Probably another one he took from Chick?
[QUOTE]Donovan Mitchell has played 2.6 seasons and is already even with Memo Okur — actually legitimately a notorious 3-point shooter for seven seasons — in 3-point shots. The game has changed. Mitchell has a couple of other milestones coming up: on Monday, he’ll tie Jarron Collins for games started for the Jazz with 203 — a good reminder of just how many games Collins somehow started during his Jazz career. Next week, he should also surpass Bryon Russell for 20th on the Jazz’s All-Time assists list.
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Collins was another Jazz joke. Thanks Jerry! :rant
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[URL]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2020/3/1/21158510/this-is-not-how-the-utah-jazz-want-to-find-out-rudy-goberts-value[/URL]
[QUOTE]The truth is all these problems don’t originate from any singular player. It’s not [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/297138/mike-conley"]Mike Conley[/URL], it’s not [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/297108/rudy-gobert"]Rudy Gobert[/URL] or anyone else. The root of it all comes from the miscalculations of the front office and an inability of the coaching staff to make this work this far into the season. The front office put the team into this position. They’re the ones who gave up the assets they did to trade for [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/297138/mike-conley"]Mike Conley[/URL]. They’re the ones who have put [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/297108/rudy-gobert"]Rudy Gobert[/URL] in this position. And if they knew there were chemistry issues at the trade deadline, they’re the ones who did nothing about it.
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They're the ones that thought a backup center was more important than a starting PF. They're the ones carrying 6 rookies instead of vets and only two have had any quality minutes.
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[URL]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/3/1/21158343/utah-jazz-news-tony-bradley-joakim-noah-mike-conley-jordan-clarkson[/URL]
[QUOTE]But...and I want to really draw out the pause here...the Jazz would have to get rid of someone on the roster to make room for any kind of buyout market signing, and while there are young guys and non-rotational players who could be waived to make room, I’m not sure that the Jazz are looking too far beyond what they already have.
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I'm sure they aren't thought they will say otherwise and have
[QUOTE]Depends on what direction you’re looking at things from. From where I’m sitting right now, a Western Conference Finals appearance would be an improbable success, so no, I don’t think that a second round exit would be a failure.
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going into the season it wasn't considered improbable though
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[URL]https://thejnotes.com/2020/03/01/utah-jazz-team-without-identity/[/URL]
[QUOTE]You know, back when the franchise (thanks, [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/corbity01.html"]Tyrone Corbin[/URL]) amassed a grand total of 25 wins.
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the front office was tanking but let's blame Corbin! :facepalm
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[URL]https://thejnotes.com/2020/03/01/utah-jazz-tony-bradleys-development-gaining-importance/[/URL]
[QUOTE]At the end of the day, Bradley is only 22 years old and he’s a guy the Jazz are going to want to hang onto. Whether he’s starting one day, while Gobert is elsewhere, or playing behind Gobert for many years. The Jazz won’t have to worry about Gobert going anywhere until 2021.
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doubt he's ever a starter.
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[URL]https://saltcityhoops.com/four-seasons-latest-jazz-version-searches-for-cohesion-in-a-disjointed-season/[/URL]
[QUOTE]Gobert has been the steadiest Jazzman by a mile. As of this writing, he still ranks as a [URL="https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-player-ratings/"]top-five player in 538’s RAPTOR WAR[/URL], and his efficiency has never significantly waivered. Any attempt by (a tiny few) Jazz fans to lay the team’s current malaise at his feet is sorely misguided. Bogdanovic and O’Neale have both also been really consistent over the course of the season.
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:bowdown:
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Finally had Tucker play with the Stars. Surprisingly Morgan too. I wonder if Brantley outplayed him in a recent practice or something? Morgan has certainly looked like he belonged in the minutes he's gotten with the Jazz. I thought he should have came in during the first half against Thomas Bryant
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[URL]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/3/3/21163045/knicks-win-over-rockets-should-motivate-utah-jazz-to-come-ready-to-fight[/URL]
[QUOTE]Taking advantage of what the Rockets are lacking — size in the frontcourt — the Knicks pulled out a 125-123 win, a game that multiple Jazz players were watching the final minutes of on their phones as they readied to leave the locker room in Cleveland.
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like I keep saying matchups go both ways.
[QUOTE]While the tactic of attacking the glass and dominating offensively in the paint worked for the Knicks against the undersized Rockets, conventional wisdom would say that the Jazz have the weapons to counter such an attack. But, conventional wisdom can often come back to bite you in the NBA.
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a big part of the Jazz problem is they are too small outside their two centers. They changed their team to matchup with the Rockets and the Rockets changed theirs as well
[QUOTE]This isn’t just a matter to take into consideration on Wednesday against the Knicks or even through the rest of this road trip that includes the Boston Celtics and Detroit Pistons. The Jazz don’t have time to take any opponent lightly from now through the end of the season.
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should always apply
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[URL]https://saltcityhoops.com/regaining-some-confidence-the-jazz-take-care-of-the-cavs-in-126-113-victory/[/URL]
[QUOTE]The Frenchman has not eclipsed 10 rebounds the past five outings, though he has had nine the past three. While it is a bit of a concern, cleaning the glass is never a one-man task. While Gobert may not be snagging the caroms himself, he is still working hard and boxing out, thus allowing teammates to come collect them. The Jazz dominated the Cavs, outrebounding them 54-41. Donovan Mitchell grabbed nine from the back court, while Bogdanovic and Royce O’Neale had seven apiece. Tony Bradley chipped in six in just 14 minutes. It was a team effort. And versus the Wizards, Utah enjoyed a 47-36 advantage.
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That's actually good to see. Probably Bojan's best all around game this year. Need more on the glass and defense from others
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[URL]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-power-rankings/2020/3/3/21152877/nba-power-rankings-week-20-utah-jazz-losing-streak-washington-wizards-phoenix-suns-boston-celtics[/URL]
[QUOTE][INDENT][URL="http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3908809/donovan-mitchell"]Donovan Mitchell[/URL] has scored at least 30 points in four consecutive games for the first time in his career and has a true shooting percentage of 60.8 during that span. But Mitchell has been a big part of the Jazz’s recent [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28779007/a-roller-coaster-winter-left-jazz-searching-identity"]disastrous defense[/URL]. Utah allowed 125.8 points per 100 possessions with Mitchell on the floor during a 1-4 homestand coming out of the All-Star break.[I] — MacMahon[/I]
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all star? That has to change if the Jazz want to ever do something
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[QUOTE]He got better at distributing the ball, developed a smarter shot selection, and defending. He still kept his smooth ball handling skills and sweet jumper. Now that Clarkson’s made himself a Sixth Man of the Year candidate on a playoff team in Utah, he could be in for a huge pay day this summer.Doesn't defend or even look to pass. Might have to let him go. They need a starting PF which will improve their bench with Ingles and O'Neale on it
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[QUOTE]He’s outperformed the expectation set by that small contract, and accomplished what he came here to do. He’s developed his game and basketball I.Q under one of the best minds in basketball, and proved to be ready when his number is called.
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the great mind who can't fix their D
[QUOTE]As soon as he’s through with the Jazz’s playoff run this spring, Mudiay should look for a bigger opportunity. There’s a small chance that opportunity opens up right here in Utah if the Jazz and Mike Conley part ways.
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or if they part ways with Clarkson. Cheaper option. More upside. Only problem is they are limited on what they can pay him I believe because he's on a minimum deal. Wright-Forman also has 6th man potential and could need a roster spot as well.
[QUOTE]The Jazz can find a way to tie up loose ends on the roster through the NBA draft (they likely get their own first round pick), G-League ([URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brantja01.html"]Jarrell Brantley[/URL] has been [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2020/02/20/utah-jazz-stating-obvious-jarrell-brantley-good-g-league/"]tearing it up[/URL]), and by shopping around role players like [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/davised01.html"]Ed Davis[/URL] and [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/niangge01.html"]Georges Niang[/URL].
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Davis has to go obviously. Rather he's somehow dealt or they spread his contract out over several years which isn't ideal with Bobert and Mitchell about to be paid. Niang probably isn't going anywhere. Non guaranteed deal. They have to look center in the draft with both Gobert and Bradley going into contract years. Wouldn't count on whoever it is helping them right away though. Could be a player to stash. Have to get a vet center to go with their young bigs.
a new coach might be the first thing to do though?
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[URL]https://thejnotes.com/2020/03/03/utah-jazz-early-look-2020-offseason/[/URL]
[QUOTE]They poached [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bogdabo02.html"]Bojan Bogdanovic[/URL] from the clutches of the Indiana Pacers on a lengthy contract despite him being in his thirties. Some were worried it would be an overpaid contract, but so far Bogey’s arguably been the best bargain of the 2019 free agency class.
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their D might argue otherwise
[QUOTE]This ought to be a no-brainer for Conley, as he has struggled this season and looks like he’s fallen off a cliff. There’s no way he will make anything close to 34.5 million dollars if he signs a new deal on the 2020 market.
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we've seen guys give up the one year for multi year security before but hard to imagine it here
[QUOTE]He makes an undersized backcourt with Donovan Mitchell, and gets confused too often on defense for whom he’s supposed to guard. He over helps on the interior rather than trusting Rudy to erase mistakes, and he gets confused on switches.
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I think that's overplayed. Both have length. Mitchell has size. The league plays smaller
[QUOTE]So even when Conley’s shot has been falling this season, he’s not contributing anything more than volume scoring. Pretty redundant for a club that already has [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/clarkjo01.html"]Jordan Clarkson[/URL] filling the same role at less than half the cost of Conley.
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Come one now! He's still a better playmaker and defender than Clarkson but who isn't?
[QUOTE]In my opinion the Jazz should look to deal Conley as a salary dump should he opt-in to his 34.5 million. I’d love to see it, but will they be able to find a worthwhile deal for the 34 year old veteran? They may be stuck with him until 2021.
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Don't think it necessarily has to be a salary dump. Another team might be in a similar situation with another player. Conley is far from their biggest problem though. I'd be looking closely at the whole roster outside of Gobert. They have to get better defensively somehow while not losing the spacing they've long needed around him.
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[URL]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/3/4/21164645/ball-movement-shines-utah-jazz-new-york-knicks-news-donovan-mitchell-mike-conley-bojan-bogdanovic[/URL]
[QUOTE]There were two things that really stood out on Wednesday night at Madison Square Garden for the Jazz in their 112-104 win — their ball movement, and Mike Conley’s progress.
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the best defense they've played in I don't know how long. They've been scoring plenty to win games. Got to defend better
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[URL]https://saltcityhoops.com/an-easy-night-in-the-big-apple/[/URL]
[QUOTE]The Jazz’s [B]109.5[/B] DRTG, on the other hand, shows that the defense continues to be a concern. The Knicks have the 28th ranked offense in the NBA this season and were still able to score 104 points on the Jazz last night. The good news is that the 109.5 DRTG last night is easily the best DRTG the Jazz have had post All-Star Break. At least the defense is trending in the right direction.
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Exactly! They should win most games with those results. Rather they can do it against good teams remains to be seen
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John Karalis: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Gordon Hayward and Jaylen Brown are officially out tomorrow[/URL] vs. Utah
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/RedsArmy_John"]Twitter RedsArmy_John[/URL]
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As a client of CAA, [URL="https://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/leon-rose-donovan-mitchell-knicks-1.42495334"]Mitchell believes that Rose will be able to handle these problems and fix the Knicks. “I don’t know exactly what happened but I just reacted to what I saw,” Mitchell said of his tweet that responded to a Lee interview on ESPN by commenting, “That’s crazy yo.”[/URL] But he quickly transitioned to his belief that Rose can mend the fences at Madison Square Garden.
– via [URL="https://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/leon-rose-donovan-mitchell-knicks-1.42495334"]Steve Popper @ Newsda[/URL]y
Donovan Mitchell “That’s the way I reacted the way I did. But for me, understanding that I think Leon — who I know personally — Leon Rose — things are going to trend upward. I love Leon to death. He’s a great dude, great person and a really good businessman. So I think they’re going to start going in the right direction when he gets in there. I just think from the time I’ve known him obviously from the same agency, he’s just a guy who is charismatic. [URL="https://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/leon-rose-donovan-mitchell-knicks-1.42495334"]He’s a guy who cares, understands relationships. He has a lot of relationships throughout this league. Obviously myself, Devin Booker and Karl-Anthony Towns. He’s been in the league for a while so he knows how to do things. It’s going to be interesting to see what he does.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/leon-rose-donovan-mitchell-knicks-1.42495334"]Steve Popper @ Newsday[/URL]
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[URL]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/3/5/21165565/utah-jazz-royce-oneale-3-point-shooting-nba[/URL]
Him and Ingles are the guys to leave open because they might not shoot it
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Brian Robb: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Tremont Waters will be in Maine tonight along with Tacko, Carsen Edwards and Vincent Poirier[/URL] so the Celtics will have 11 healthy bodies with Kemba on a minutes limit vs. Jazz.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BrianTRobb"]Twitter BrianTRobb[/URL]
[IMG]https://usat*********.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/i_b3_66_48_jaylen-brown.png?w=190[/IMG]Chris Forsberg: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jaylen Brown said he’s likely to get re-evaluated Wednesday. Feels good about how hamstring has felt last 48 hours. Brad Stevens says Gordon Hayward is day to day.[/URL] He won’t do anything today. Kemba’s minutes restriction could potentially go up a tiny bit tonight.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/ChrisForsberg_"]Twitter ChrisForsberg_[/URL]
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[URL="https://www.ksl.com/article/46726571/you-see-a-passion-when-he-plays-jordan-clarkson-continues-to-rise-in-utah"]Jordan Clarkson has been called a lot of things over his NBA career: a gunner, ball-stopper, someone that doesn’t fit into a system. And, yes, he’s heard them all. “I get labeled a lot of stuff,” Clarkson said. “It is what it is.[/URL] I just go out there and try to do my job for the team.”
– via [URL="https://www.ksl.com/article/46726571/you-see-a-passion-when-he-plays-jordan-clarkson-continues-to-rise-in-utah"]KSL.com[/URL]
When you are that good of a scorer, the other things don’t immediately stand out. [URL="https://www.ksl.com/article/46726571/you-see-a-passion-when-he-plays-jordan-clarkson-continues-to-rise-in-utah"]“If you see a highlight or whatever, they usually don’t show highlights of guys pressuring the ball and shifting on defense, but I think I would say that those things are important to him,” Jazz head coach Quin Snyder said[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.ksl.com/article/46726571/you-see-a-passion-when-he-plays-jordan-clarkson-continues-to-rise-in-utah"]KSL.com[/URL]
[URL="https://www.ksl.com/article/46726571/you-see-a-passion-when-he-plays-jordan-clarkson-continues-to-rise-in-utah"]“You see a passion when he plays, and you see that even more when it’s up close and you get a chance to look in his eyes, and you see how he comes in the game, how he comes out of the game, and just how he competes,” Snyder said.[/URL] “I didn’t have any preconceptions about that, but it’s been fun to see him play that way.”
– via [URL="https://www.ksl.com/article/46726571/you-see-a-passion-when-he-plays-jordan-clarkson-continues-to-rise-in-utah"]KSL.com[/URL]
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[URL]https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2020/03/08/utah-jazz-detroit-pistons/[/URL]
[QUOTE]But I think both of them are very adept — and actually pretty similar — in the way they use their bodies to create space for themselves in the interior. Neither of them are that vertically athletic: certainly both can dunk, but scoring from above is not a major part of their game. Instead, it’s about bumping the opponent off balance, finding space, and finishing the shot.
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I'd say Clarkson has hops
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[URL]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/3/6/21166833/mike-conley-utah-jazz-bench-win-boston-celtics[/URL]
[QUOTE]“You all can continue to hate and say what y’all want, I see it, and I know he does too,” Donovan Mitchell said after the game. “In games like this, you’re not gonna say nothing. That’s Mike Conley, he’s a Hall of Famer, he’s one of the best players to play the game at his position. And you see it. He’s been playing well the past couple of games, and it’s continuing to go up.”
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HOFer? :facepalm
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[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/conley-shows-out-scores-25-in-controlling-victory-over-celtics/[/url]
[QUOTE]Quin Snyder had another inexplicable challenge. It was early in the second quarter—hardly crunch time—and Ojeleye had cut in under a Clarkson layup attempt on a fast break to draw the charge. Ojeleye was easily outside of the restricted area, and Clarkson wasn’t in foul trouble. There simply isn’t a reason to challenge this call, even if you believe Ojeleye was late in establishing position for the charge: it’s a low-leverage situation, and block/charge calls need to be horrifyingly obvious for the call to be overturned. Snyder needs to be way lighter on his challenge trigger finger.
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yep. no idea what he was thinking there
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[URL]https://www.slcdunk.com/2020/3/7/21169002/mike-conley-utah-jazz-boston-celtics-game-recap[/URL]
[QUOTE]With the updated rotations, I am a big fan of switching [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/300106/mike-conley"]Conley[/URL] and Donovan’s roles.
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One of my concerns going into the season was Snyder's rotations. Been a problem all year
[QUOTE]With Rudy, Donovan and Bojan all earning a +/- of -20 tonight, it is easy to say that we were bailed out by the bench. This will happen on occasion, and it is not the end of the world. BUT, this team is built on the backs of our stars. More often than not, an 11-point game on 20% shooting from the field for Donovan, paired with a 9/7reb/3blk game from Rudy, and sprinkling in some poor shooting from Bogey would be the perfect recipe for a loss. Conley can’t bail out all three of them on a nightly basis. We need them to play well against the better teams in this league, especially those +.500 teams who have the capability to play 5-out.
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They have plenty of offense even when guys have off nights. All about how much defense they play
[QUOTE]Jinglin Joe makes former Jazzman Andrei Kirilenko proud. With a stat line of 9 points, 7 rebounds, 6 assists, and 3 steals, all Joe needed were a couple of blocks to put up a signature AK night. While they are obviously not identical players, Joe does remind me of an older Kirilenko, with an improved 3pt jumper. When Joe is rolling, he makes everybody on the court better. He is skilled in so many different ways, you can no longer simply deny one thing and take away half of his game plan. Because of his flexibility, this opens up options for teammates.
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Gobert reminds me of AK
[QUOTE]Snyder had some good, albeit late imo, in-game adjustments. He sat Bogie for stretches and pulled guys at the 7-minute mark in the third rather than riding or dying with his normal rotation. I’d like to see more from him where he sits dudes for shitting the bed defensively or just recognizing that guys aren’t hitting shots and maybe it’d be good to play a guy who might make a shot.
-The Ingles/Conley/Clarkson/Minivan/Foul Machine bench lineup could be a lot of fun. If Niang doesn’t get murdered on defense, Bradley doesn’t pick up five fouls in eight or nine minutes, and CIC can figure out a way to share the ball-handling/scoring duties in a way where all three can find/have a rhythm, that lineup can be dangerous to opposing team’s benches. We won the game last night because of that lineup.
Overall, a solid win with some U.G.L.Y. play from Mitchell and Bogie. It was great to watch a defensive game for once and see the Jazz keep a team below 100, which used to be a staple of Gobert teams. Four in a row with the Pistons tonight. Good opportunity to build some momentum with some tough games coming up (Memphis, Toronto, LAL (2x), Spurs (2x), Pellies, Thunder and Mavs over the next 9 before ATL).
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Karl%20Stalone%2032"]Karl Stalone 32[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2020/3/7/21169002/mike-conley-utah-jazz-boston-celtics-game-recap#525170143"]Mar 7, 2020 | 8:09 AM[/URL]
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[URL]https://thejnotes.com/2020/03/08/utah-jazz-10-potential-draft-targets-tournament/[/URL]
Need a 5. None of the 10 fills that need. Bradley and Rudy will be free agents after next year. Behind them is Davis and two mostly unproven small ball 5's. Have young prospects everywhere but a big 5. Trade up or down or out if you can't get one.
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[URL]https://thejnotes.com/2020/03/07/breathe-easy-utah-jazz-mike-conley/[/URL]
[QUOTE]To date, Conley has played in a grand total of 39 games for the Jazz — only one of those would likely qualify as “memorable,” and you saw it [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2020/3/7/21169002/mike-conley-utah-jazz-boston-celtics-game-recap"]last night[/URL] with your own two eyes. [URL="https://tradebrains.in/recency-bias/"]Recency bias[/URL] is a real thing, so Jazz fans would be wise to not fully discredit his 38 games of [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2019/11/04/utah-jazz-cant-afford-mike-conley-slump-continue/"]mediocre play[/URL].
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He's played a lot more memorable ball than bad ball :facepalm
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[URL]https://hoopshabit.com/2020/03/06/utah-jazz-3-teams-playoffs/3/[/URL]
[QUOTE]Donovan Mitchell vs. Luka Doncic would be one of the most exciting matchups of the postseason, as both young stars are primarily responsible for their teams’ success. If these two teams played each other a year from now, the Jazz wouldn’t want anything to do with the Mavericks. This will be Doncic’s first time in the postseason, though, so the matchup is tolerable.
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:facepalm
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StatMuse: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bojan Bogdanovic this season: 20.5 PPG, 44.9 FG%, 41.5 3P%, 90.3 FT%. Bogey is on pace to become the first player in Utah Jazz franchise history to average 20 PPG on 40 3P% in a season (min 50 3PA).[/URL] pic.twitter.com/rvhY0qTCc8
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/statmuse"]Twitter statmuse[/URL]
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[QUOTE]With free agency potentially looming, it’s a good bet Grant will turn down his $9.3 million player option this upcoming summer and see what he might command in a thin class. How the Nuggets handle both he and Millsap’s impending free agency will likely determine how much flexibility they have this summer. [URL="https://www.denverpost.com/2020/03/08/jerami-grant-fits-in-with-nuggets/"]“We’ll see how it goes in the offseason,” Grant said. “It’s definitely all situational, but I’m definitely comfortable here. I love my teammates, love the coaches, everything.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://www.denverpost.com/2020/03/08/jerami-grant-fits-in-with-nuggets/"]Mike Singer @ Denver Post[/URL]
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He'd be someone to go after
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The veteran point guard had just dropped 25 points and dished out five assists to lead the Utah Jazz to an impressive 99-94 road win over the Boston Celtics. The performance didn’t leave much for Conley’s doubters to talk about, so Mitchell and his teammates took it upon themselves to fill the silence inside the visitors’ locker room at TD Garden. [URL="https://www.nba.com/jazz/news/utah-jazz-guard-mike-conley-healthy-comfortable-and-reminding-everyone-just-how-good-he"]“I don’t want to hear anymore Mike Conley slander,” forward Georges Niang said. “The guy can hoop.”[/URL] “It’s just funny how people work,” Mitchell added. “Y’all can continue to hate and say what y’all want. I see it. I know he does, too. But that’s Mike Conley. He’s a Hall of Famer, one of the best to play at his position.”
– via [URL="https://www.nba.com/jazz/news/utah-jazz-guard-mike-conley-healthy-comfortable-and-reminding-everyone-just-how-good-he"]Aaron Falk @ NBA.com[/URL]
[URL="https://*********.com/rumors/#"]“There’s way less thinking,” Conley said. “I’m just playing the game. [URL="https://www.nba.com/jazz/news/utah-jazz-guard-mike-conley-healthy-comfortable-and-reminding-everyone-just-how-good-he"]After playing together for a while now, I’m feeling in charge, knowing how you can put guys in position to be successful and make plays, knowing what times in the game that I can be aggressive.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://www.nba.com/jazz/news/utah-jazz-guard-mike-conley-healthy-comfortable-and-reminding-everyone-just-how-good-he"]Aaron Falk @ NBA.com[/URL]
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[URL]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2020/3/8/21169338/are-the-utah-jazz-hitting-their-stride-for-good-this-time-mike-conley[/URL]
[QUOTE]Part of what has been so good with [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/297138/mike-conley"]Conley [/URL]has been his ability to lead the second unit. Once a huge weakness, [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/utah-jazz"]Utah[/URL]’s [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/297138/mike-conley"]Conley[/URL]-led bench has become a serious weapon. Against the [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/boston-celtics"]Celtics [/URL]every [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/utah-jazz"]Jazz [/URL]bench player had a plus-minus between +22 and +26. That’s a complete turnaround from the beginning of the season when [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/utah-jazz"]Utah[/URL]’s bench gave up massive runs every game.
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Much different unit too
[QUOTE][INDENT]Also, Donovan is an awful mf defender.[/INDENT]You misspelled "Tony Bradley."
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/l3uddyh011y"]l3uddyh011y[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2020/3/8/21169338/are-the-utah-jazz-hitting-their-stride-for-good-this-time-mike-conley#525231642"]Mar 8, 2020 | 6:55 PM[/URL]
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Bradley is getting better and doesn't have the tools to be a great defender like Mitchell does
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Friday, The Athletic’s Shams Charania reported that the league sent a memo to teams to begin preparation to play in arenas without fans and only with essential personnel present. This was the latest, most drastic step. They have already sent instructions about which quotidian precautions to take, and players have tried to follow suit and follow along. Each, though, has their thoughts on how cautious they should be. [URL="https://theathletic.com/1660734/2020/03/07/how-nba-players-are-changing-their-lives-as-coronavirus-spreads-around-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR2sWUqEToU7zRSakRgcpPnBxysJo4Ksu4hOtfsw_w82FHs6VYOsScPPSuY"]Emmanuel Mudiay, a Jazz guard, has stopped shaking hands. Mike Conley walked through Utah’s locker in New York City Wednesday elbow bumping a teammate. Elfrid Payton is trying to fist pound more and wash his hands frequently[/URL].
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/1660734/2020/03/07/how-nba-players-are-changing-their-lives-as-coronavirus-spreads-around-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR2sWUqEToU7zRSakRgcpPnBxysJo4Ksu4hOtfsw_w82FHs6VYOsScPPSuY"]Mike Vorkunov @ The Athletic[/URL]
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The NBA is a touchy sport. Teammates share elaborate handshakes. Players dap and fist bump and sometimes trade jerseys. They give fans autographs using their markers. Hugs are a constant. It’s not unusual for players to enter and leave the court through a tunnel draped by fans with their arms extended, all looking for some kind of physical and personal contact. [URL="https://theathletic.com/1660734/2020/03/07/how-nba-players-are-changing-their-lives-as-coronavirus-spreads-around-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR2sWUqEToU7zRSakRgcpPnBxysJo4Ksu4hOtfsw_w82FHs6VYOsScPPSuY"]“I always hated doing that just because people are nasty, man. You know what I mean?” the Jazz’s Ed Davis said, stretching out his hands. “You don’t know who washes their hands, the type of nasty s— people doing.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/1660734/2020/03/07/how-nba-players-are-changing-their-lives-as-coronavirus-spreads-around-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR2sWUqEToU7zRSakRgcpPnBxysJo4Ksu4hOtfsw_w82FHs6VYOsScPPSuY"]Mike Vorkunov @ The Athletic[/URL]
[URL="https://*********.com/storyline/coronavirus/"]Davis is informed but not overly worried. [/URL][URL="https://theathletic.com/1660734/2020/03/07/how-nba-players-are-changing-their-lives-as-coronavirus-spreads-around-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR2sWUqEToU7zRSakRgcpPnBxysJo4Ksu4hOtfsw_w82FHs6VYOsScPPSuY"]“I think it’s just more everybody is in panic mode,” he said. “The flu is way worse than this new virus. It is what it is. It’s not really going to get serious until somebody in the NBA catches it. That’s when it’s going to be a problem.[/URL] That’s when it’s going to alert m———– or if it started doing what they’re doing overseas with no fans at the games and stuff like that. I guess in things like this it doesn’t really get serious until it hits home or something like that. So it is what it is. I can’t live my life stressing over a virus. It’s going to be what it’s going to be.”
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/1660734/2020/03/07/how-nba-players-are-changing-their-lives-as-coronavirus-spreads-around-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR2sWUqEToU7zRSakRgcpPnBxysJo4Ksu4hOtfsw_w82FHs6VYOsScPPSuY"]Mike Vorkunov @ The Athletic[/URL]
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Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gobert: “(OG Anunoby) tried to elbow me in the face. And the guy who’s getting paid to protect the players didn’t do his job. We both got ejected when I didn’t do anything back, which I don’t understand. Next time I’ll do justice myself so (they) can eject me for a reason.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
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Eric Walden: Joe [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ingles, upon hearing some sniffles: “Are you blowing your nose? If you’ve got this, I’m out of here. If someone coughs, I’m out of here, just so you know.”[/URL] And on the points-off-turnovers issues: “We missed a lot of shots we have made for a lot of the year.” pic.twitter.com/olhdGADxx7
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[QUOTE]-Some terrible mental defensive lapses on the perimeter in this game. At the end of the first, I think, we weren’t paying attention to the two-for-one and gave up a three, which happened again in the second quarter. When you figure in a Kyle Lowry bomb at the end of the shot clock in the fourth, those nine points are the game. Guys need to pay attention to clock and situation. Every team shoots those threes with any airspace.
-There was a real hesitation to attack the length and athleticism of the Raptors. Multiple times in transition we didn’t even attempt the shot, like when Conley got the steal and had Siakam behind him, or when Jordan Clarkson attacked a weak Susie closeout from a four-foul Siakam and then botched the layup with Pascal semi-closing space behind him, or when Bogie went for some weak sauce, two-footed layup for no reason and wanted the refs to bail him out with a foul on a two-on-one fast break. Plus, you figure some bad luck with finishing in the paint from several Jazz players and we left at least 12-14 points at the rim tonight.
[/QUOTE]Even worse was them going back to the floaters that killed them to start the year
[QUOTE]-Great defensive and offensive games from Joe and Royce. These two are the key to us winning a playoff series because of their defense.
-A lot of missed open threes that could have swung this game.
-Donovan was straight MIA for this one. He seemed to be feasting when ASB ended and the rest of the team was still in the Caribbean or Mexico. Now he’s deferring, not being aggressive, and putting up some stinkers. When he’s not really attacking the rim hard, he’s taking away some of our Rudy advantage. Teams don’t want to come help off of Rudy because it leaves the rim open to offensive rebounds and they don’t want to send the secondary wave of help from the corners either. When he’s deferring, he’s helping out the defense.
-Bogie and Clarkson with some MIA games as well.
Overall, this was a great game defensively from the Jazz. I’m not worried about the offense. Had we been aggressive in some spots, I think we win this game. You sky-falling people need to check yourself. A week ago it was the defense you were worried about. It’s picked up significantly and looks to be really encouraging, actually. The offense put up a stinker which is an outlier for this team, and Toronto is really good.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Karl%20Stalone%2032"]Karl Stalone 32[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2020/3/9/21172716/utah-jazz-lose-to-toronto-raptors-march-9-2020-game-recap#525280677"]Mar 10, 2020 | 3:24 AM[/URL]
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Yep if they play D like that they are a tough out
[QUOTE]Why I was frustrated when twice Q just didn’t roll with the bench longer in both halves when they were playing well. Let’s use our depth at altitude against a team on a b2b.
I’m not an advocate of load management as practiced by Kawhi but when there are clear examples where it can be done in game just based on production and energy Q should take advantage. He doesn’t have to worry about chemistry or egos, etc as players clearly know their roles.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/SKMike"]SKMike[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2020/3/9/21172716/utah-jazz-lose-to-toronto-raptors-march-9-2020-game-recap#525280951"]Mar 10, 2020 | 4:19 AM[/URL]
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the common theme seems to Quin for some reason. I thought he was one of the best? :confusedshrug: