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[QUOTE=Full Court;14968000]Nice try.
[url]https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2393113[/url]
It's not even close.[/QUOTE]
Sorry bud, the link I posted was an actual project by realgm instead of a random poll where random people can vote.
LeBron the GOAT!!
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14968006]Sorry bud, the link I posted was an actual project by realgm instead of a random poll where random people can vote.
LeBron the GOAT!![/QUOTE]
Guess what....that's how CONSENSUS is defined. By the number of people who hold a subjective opinion, i.e. a POLL.
Try really hard - I'm sure you can understand this.
[QUOTE=Full Court;14968007]Guess what....that's how CONSENSUS is defined. By the number of people who hold a subjective opinion, i.e. a POLL.
Try really hard - I'm sure you can understand this.[/QUOTE]
So you value the opinion of casuals? No surprise from someone who thought Don Nelson was a HOF player.
LeBron > MJ. Deal with it.
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[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14968012]So you value the opinion of casuals? No surprise from someone who thought Don Nelson was a HOF player.
LeBron > MJ. Deal with it.
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Jordan still being consensus GOAT 20 years after retirement REEEEEEEAAAAAAAAALLY eats at you, huh? :roll:
If Lebron still isn't GOAT, then he never will be. Deal with it.
:lebroncry:
[QUOTE=tpols;14967867]Ĺebron didn't really blow by guys nearly as often as MJ. He shouldered n elbowed them out the way with his momentum as a primary weapon. They have different styles.[/QUOTE]
You've obviously never watched young Lebron then. The guy who with no bag was blowing by people at will from a stationary dribble lol. As he matured and gained experience then he starred using his body more, but it was still mostly speed based until he bulked up big in Miami and even then he still was getting blow bys.
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14741415]Need an answer on each thread below.
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired[/url]
[url]https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT[/url]
Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher[/url]
Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2[/url]
Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED[/url]
Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2[/url]
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.
Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14[/url]
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds
[url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html[/url]
And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster[/url]
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.
Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10?[/url] Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head[/url]
Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron[/url]
Devin Booker broke Lebron
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482[/url]
Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season[/url]
[url]https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats[/url]
Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600[/url]
How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry[/url]
Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360[/url]
Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac[/url]
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.
Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.
LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming[/url]
[url]https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James[/url]
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:
[url]http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html[/url]
First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371[/url]
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Man STFU
[QUOTE=Neal Romer;14986737]Man STFU[/QUOTE]
How many more years do you think Lebron will need to play to pass up Jordan as consensus GOAT?
[QUOTE=Full Court;14986750]How many more years do you think Lebron will need to play to pass up Jordan as consensus GOAT?[/QUOTE]
He already passed him
[QUOTE=Full Court;14986750]How many more years do you think Lebron will need to play to pass up Jordan as consensus GOAT?[/QUOTE]
Not happening. His window has passed a long time ago.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14986751]He already passed him[/QUOTE]
Only in your desperate dreams. Read the OP again. Twice. :lol
[QUOTE=Gudo;14986783]Not happening. His window has passed a long time ago.[/QUOTE]
It's always been hilarious how for the last 10 years or so we've been told "disqualified " and "window closed" for a guy that has completed annihilated the record books and any previous concept of longevity since. Id say he kicked the window back open pretty hard. On a side note it's also weird to see guys say a debate that's been raging for a solid decade doesn't exist lol.