NFL Season 2025

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15041891]Actually I'm not really ragging on Sanders so much as ragging on you for panning everyone taken ahead of him. Altho I wasnt really surprised it came out he acted like an entitled clown in the run up to the draft, and it's true I'm not really inclined to root for him because of it, but mainly I'm just givin you the business for acting like it would be each team's biggest regret not to draft him. And now look, three of the guys drafted ahead of him lookin good in the early sample sizes, and Sanders is running the scout team. LOL.

And you'll try to point to the team records to suggest those guys arent playing well for rookies, which will only serve to show YOU arent watching the games.[/QUOTE]

What rookies besides Dart prove your case? Surely not Dillon Gabriel or Tyler Slough. You clearly haven’t been watching nor following the games. I’m here for this discussion. Becuase I want to see how you weasel your way out of it.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15041899]What rookies besides Dart prove your case? Surely not Dillon Gabriel or Tyler Slough. You clearly haven’t been watching nor following the games. I’m here for this discussion. Becuase I want to see how you weasel your way out of it.[/QUOTE]


Gobblet, did we not just establish Shough's game yesterday with a couple beautiful deep balls, a 70% completion percentage, and no turnovers? Thats pretty nice for a second ever start.

And Gabriel has been solid. Not his fault he plays on the worst offense in football. He's also looked promising for a rookie on a shit team.

I already acknowledged the small sample sizes but theres still enough there to break your bolls a lil bit partner. Thats all. Im not crownin these kids HOFers. Im just breakin ya bolls.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15041946]Gobblet, did we not just establish Shough's game yesterday with a couple beautiful deep balls, a 70% completion percentage, and no turnovers? Thats pretty nice for a second ever start.

And Gabriel has been solid. Not his fault he plays on the worst offense in football. He's also looked promising for a rookie on a shit team.

I already acknowledged the small sample sizes but theres still enough there to break your bolls a lil bit partner. Thats all. Im not crownin these kids HOFers. Im just breakin ya bolls.[/QUOTE]

Maybe Dart could be used to break my balls. Not Gabriel who has been mediocre at best. You clearly haven’t watched him throw the ball. You’re just throwing shyt against the wall blaming the browns offense for his lackluster arm. Hilarious. In 5 starts he’s thrown over 200yds just once. And it took over 50 attempts. He’s not it at QB. But Browns have to hope he shows something so they stick with him. There’s footage of him throwing. That’s actual writeups about how Gabriel has performed thus far. None favor your position to break my balls.

One game for Tyler is funny. Should probably simmer down a bit. I’m not going to go for for tat when he has a bad game and say “ha! My turn!”. Just admit you challenged me and it didn’t go well for you. Try again at a later date. Right now I’m bullying you because you have no counters whatsoever. This convo will turn into an insult fest. And you would lose that as well.


Anyway, Monday night Eagles vs Packers let’s go!

[QUOTE=GOBB;15041978]Maybe Dart could be used to break my balls. Not Gabriel who has been mediocre at best. You clearly haven’t watched him throw the ball. You’re just throwing shyt against the wall blaming the browns offense for his lackluster arm. Hilarious. In 5 starts he’s thrown over 200yds just once. And it took over 50 attempts. He’s not it at QB. But Browns have to hope he shows something so they stick with him. There’s footage of him throwing. That’s actual writeups about how Gabriel has performed thus far. None favor your position to break my balls.

One game for Tyler is funny. Should probably simmer down a bit. I’m not going to go for for tat when he has a bad game and say “ha! My turn!”. Just admit you challenged me and it didn’t go well for you. Try again at a later date. Right now I’m bullying you because you have no counters whatsoever. This convo will turn into an insult fest. And you would lose that as well.


Anyway, Monday night Eagles vs Packers let’s go![/QUOTE]


Sure thing GOBB.

But I'll point out Flacco was putting up like 10 points a game with the Browns, then he gets traded to the Bengals and now hes dropping like 40 every week. Because the weapons, the system and so on are completely different. Gabriel has 7 TDs to 2 INTs. Hes playing composed but their offense is just trash. Nobodys gonna put up big numbers there. It's utterly disingenuous to claim any differently.

Daboll out as Giants coach. Why they brought him back for half a season when it was obvious he should've been fired after last year is beyond me.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15041854]Of course I’m right. You really couldn’t care less how well he is doing or Dart for that matter. Both could been buried behind qbs (hypothetically speaking) and you’ll still poke fun at Sanders. And again you show you don’t follow football. Or maybe you do and your persistence to rag on Sanders has you asking and making silly statements. 2nd rd picks are picks where you find starters. You rarely talk 2nd rd picks with the notion they are projects. Do not and I repeat do not find rare moments where this doesn’t hold true. Maybe you will which will further expose your lack of football knowledge. Saints drafted a QB in rd 2 mean there is someone really HIGH on that player. And will look for an opportunity or not hesitate to put them in as a starter soon. The case with Tyler. Rattler was given a chance unlike Sanders. He flamed out and in comes a rookie Kellen Moore likes. Much like Daboll did Dart. First and 2nd rd are key draft picks moreso any other round. Everything is situational. Sanders would literally have to look like Tom Brady, Mahommes for Clev to justify playing him over Gabriel even tho Sanders is injured. If he were completely healthy Gabriel would still be given a chance given his draft spot until he looked like Spencer Rattler and then and only then would Sanders be giving a shot. If Sanders was drafted earlier/ahead of Gabriel he would be the starting QB injury withstanding. Follow? Probably not becuase you really don’t care to use logic here. You just want to throw shots at sanders. If Sanders were given the job and had a rookie debut like Tyler did? You’d be here tagging me and snickering.

Carry on tho[/QUOTE]

Cliffsnotes: It’s not fair!!!!

:oldlol:

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15041980]Daboll out as Giants coach. Why they brought him back for half a season when it was obvious he should've been fired after last year is beyond me.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15041980]Daboll out as Giants coach. Why they brought him back for half a season when it was obvious he should've been fired after last year is beyond me.[/QUOTE]

Good riddance. The defensive coordinator also needs to go. Wished Shoen as well but looks like he's sticking around.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15041980]Daboll out as Giants coach. Why they brought him back for half a season when it was obvious he should've been fired after last year is beyond me.[/QUOTE]

Now we get to hear about Belichick to the Giants rumors for the next 4 months.

Eagles have a lot of haters in the media. Whatever happened to a team winning? Don’t watch first take much but thank you Spears for defending the Birds. You want to win or look cute? And bag on Jalen hurts for “stats” but his Pat Mahommes the benefit of the doubt. Who are the defending champs?

[QUOTE=GOBB;15042393]Eagles have a lot of haters in the media. Whatever happened to a team winning? Don’t watch first take much but thank you Spears for defending the Birds. You want to win or look cute? And bag on Jalen hurts for “stats” but his Pat Mahommes the benefit of the doubt. Who are the defending champs?[/QUOTE]

Mahomes has multiple MVPs, 5000+ yard, 40+ touchdown seasons. He’s earned the benefit of the doubt from a raw production standpoint.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15042424]Mahomes has multiple MVPs, 5000+ yard, 40+ touchdown seasons. He’s earned the benefit of the doubt from a raw production standpoint.[/QUOTE]

Literally got outplayed by Jalen Hurts in the SB. Not once but twice. Where does that come into play with Jalen who just…wins? Lifetime of benefit of the doubt perhaps for Patty boy. Eagles are 7-2 with wins vs good teams. The narrative is they got to get it together. Chiefs are 5-4 and the narrative is Patty will turn things around. Time the sports media and fans give Jalen his just due.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15041980]Daboll out as Giants coach. Why they brought him back for half a season when it was obvious he should've been fired after last year is beyond me.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I can't wait for the Giants from going from a team that blows fourth quarter leads to the team that's the worst in the league.

Fields is ass.

The Patriots had a great draft. Numerous rookies making an impact.

Wow..Drake Maye might actually be the MVP and an elite quarterback. That happened fast.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15042716]Wow..Drake Maye might actually be the MVP and an elite quarterback. That happened fast.[/QUOTE]

Tons of credit to Mike Vrabel. All I've heard around here is the culture he's building and the buy in from the players. I figured the rebuild would take another year or two, but its already happening.

Matt Stafford is a strong MVP candidate if not leader.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15042799]Matt Stafford is a strong MVP candidate if not leader.[/QUOTE]

The media is dirty when it comes to awards, Stafford has never even made All-Pro

[QUOTE=John8204;15042873]The media is dirty when it comes to awards, Stafford has never even made All-Pro[/QUOTE]

What years should he have been all pro?

[QUOTE=GOBB;15042881]What years should he have been all pro?[/QUOTE]

I don't know the specific season but one of those years with the Lions it was 4th quarter comeback after comeback. You also had the Super Bowl season, and their was one year when the Rams were talking about trading Stafford and blowing up the team and then in the second half of the season the Rams went on a crazy run.

[QUOTE=John8204;15042968]I don't know the specific season but one of those years with the Lions it was 4th quarter comeback after comeback. You also had the Super Bowl season, and their was one year when the Rams were talking about trading Stafford and blowing up the team and then in the second half of the season the Rams went on a crazy run.[/QUOTE]

I think you’re throwing shyt against a wall. I guess we can agree he is all pro caliber. Much like a basketball player can be all star caliber even if they weren’t selected to the all star team. But the year Stafford had the 4tg quarter comebacks tom Brady and Matt Ryan were all pros. And the SB year Aaron Rodgers and tom Brady were selected. Good luck with that.

I wanna make a bet or 2 on the 4 upcoming games now but I‘m totally out of the loop. Just for fun/rooting interest.

Anything you guys like? Chiefs 1.45? Rams 1.5? A HC or player bet?

This Bills-Bucs game is fun.

Gabriel is out for the game in comes Sanders. Ravens sent a zero blitz and he threw a pick only to have Lamar throw a pick right back.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15043057]Gabriel is out for the game in comes Sanders. Ravens sent a zero blitz and he threw a pick only to have Lamar throw a pick right back.[/QUOTE]


Your boy!

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15043059]Your boy![/QUOTE]

Yeah your boy is out injured for the rest of the game.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15043059]Your boy![/QUOTE]

Yeah your boy is out injured for the rest of the game.

4/16 for 47 yards and a pick.

Oof. Not an auspicious debut.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15043063]4/16 for 47 yards and a pick.

Oof. Not an auspicious debut.[/QUOTE]

Having a completion percentage of 25 is wild.

Not taking reps with first team. Prepping for the ravens defense. Being blitzed like crazy. No one open. Held onto ball early on and then stopped doing it. Missed a td throw to tie game. Second attempt would have been a TD but great play by Ravens defender. Saved two drives with his legs.

The fact people judge this debut with all things considered (manly them not watching the game just boxscore hunting) is telling. But who needs context or even an eye test? When Gabriel needed 50+ attempts to crack 200yds (season high). No one cared. Got to love it.

Anyway on to a real game tonight. Lions vs Eagles.

KC losing is hilarious. No playoffs for Pat. No MVP either.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15043065]Having a completion percentage of 25 is wild.[/QUOTE]

Yeah it's really putrid.

And GOBB just insisted a page ago you cant put it on the supporting cast in Cleveland.

So this is all on Shedeur.

Just not an NFL guy, going by his debut statistics.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15043069]Not taking reps with first team. Prepping for the ravens defense. Being blitzed like crazy. No one open. Held onto ball early on and then stopped doing it. Missed a td throw to tie game. Second attempt would have been a TD but great play by Ravens defender. Saved two drives with his legs.

The fact people judge this debut with all things considered (manly them not watching the game just boxscore hunting) is telling. But who needs context or even an eye test? When Gabriel needed 50+ attempts to crack 200yds (season high). No one cared. Got to love it.[/QUOTE]


You JUST SAID Gabriel's stats were ass and the Cleveland offense was no excuse :roll:

His modest stats are much better than what Sanders just crapped out.

But keep the pretzel logic going, by all means. Play your silly games Gobblet.

Sanders' struggles in his debut didn't surprise me, but in the NFL you got to be ready when your name is called at anytime. You only get so many opportunities to prove yourself.

I don't think he'll amount to much in the NFL. Not a good start for him.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15043076]You JUST SAID Gabriel's stats were ass and the Cleveland offense was no excuse :roll:

His modest stats are much better than what Sanders just crapped out.

But keep the pretzel logic going, by all means. Play your silly games Gobblet.[/QUOTE]


You’re very selective when posting. Weird. I literally said if Sanders had a debut like Tyler’s you’d rush in here to snicker. And what did you do? Don’t answer. Second where did I blame the Brown offense? I said Gabriel lack of arm is not to be overlooked for the Brown offense. I literally said Browns couldn’t get open for the most part crediting the Ravens defense. Who picked a great time to apply pressure/blitz and even gave him false blitz looks to throw him off. It’s becoming pointless to sit here and explain things to you. You’re too old not to comprehend things said to you. You didn’t even watch the game. You pasted stats and snickered. You don’t watch any games really.


Here’s Lamar stats…

14-25 0td 2int (should have been 3 as he threw a bad pass in the endzone the browns defender dropped). Not bad for a 2 time MVP. and ravens won the game running a fake tush push courtesy of Andrews. None of this fits the narrative tho.

Howie is goated as a GM. The addition of Jaelan Phillips has been huge so far.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15043082]You’re very selective when posting. Weird. I literally said if Sanders had a debut like Tyler’s you’d rush in here to snicker. And what did you do? Don’t answer. Second where did I blame the Brown offense? I said Gabriel lack of arm is not to be overlooked for the Brown offense. I literally said Browns couldn’t get open for the most part crediting the Ravens defense. Who picked a great time to apply pressure/blitz and even gave him false blitz looks to throw him off. It’s becoming pointless to sit here and explain things to you. You’re too old not to comprehend things said to you. You didn’t even watch the game. You pasted stats and snickered. You don’t watch any games really.


Here’s Lamar stats…

14-25 0td 2int (should have been 3 as he threw a bad pass in the endzone the browns defender dropped). Not bad for a 2 time MVP. and ravens won the game running a fake tush push courtesy of Andrews. None of this fits the narrative tho.[/QUOTE]


^ Lol.

If that helps you sleep Gobbler, by all means see it as you wish.

Phillips again wow.

Eagles are 8-2, but have regressed as a team. Not as dominant as they were the season prior, alot of that has to do with Barkley not looking like his 2024 self.

I think the Rams would be my favorites to come out of the NFC at the moment.

AFC is very interesting, lots of teams who took a big leap this season while the KC & Baltimore took a step back, hard to determine who will come out of that conference.