Re: For all you atheists: If there is NO God, how did the universe get here?
[QUOTE=CleveTown™]the HOLY BIBLE (which is totally reliable given all of the divine prophesies that have came true) says you will be cursed because you preach a different gospel.
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Galatians 1:7-9
[U][B]No Other Gospel[/B][/U]
…7which is not even a gospel. Evidently some people are troubling you and trying to distort the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a divine curse! 9As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you embraced, let him be under a divine curse!…"[/QUOTE]
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Re: For all you atheists: If there is NO God, how did the universe get here?
[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Then who created God?
RIP religion.[/QUOTE]
You're assuming that time had a beginning and has an end.
There is no before and after in terms of God or the Universe.
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[QUOTE=nathanjizzle]if aliens exists, which they do, creationism will become extinct.[/QUOTE]
Show me dem aliens then boy, if I haven't seen it then it doesn't exist #atheistlogic
Re: For all you atheists: If there is NO God, how did the universe get here?
It comes down to "I dont know....so....magic" vs "I dont know.....lets keep looking into it". I dont settle for absurd fairy tale answers because the question is beyond our current ability to answer. The expansion of the universe suggests the big bang happened....so the origin of the universe isnt the issue as much as the origin of the matter that "banged" to begin with. Science cant prove where it came from.....faith doesnt even try. "God did it" is just a lazy approach that sidesteps the obvious question of....who created god. God always existing isnt an answer. Its a copout that requires you to accept the fairy tale to begin with.
You want to choose to believe the answer is in a book you believe in because you were born in the right place, time, and culture to convince you of it...go right ahead. But lets not try to carry that over into science.
Science is only in its infancy. Man only started asking these questions and working on the answers without being persecuted a few hundred years ago. And they didnt have much in the way of tools or the ability to converse with other like minded people.
Asking why we dont know the ultimate questions of life and the origin of matter while people alive today were around before we left our own atmosphere?
You might as well ask why a newborn cant dunk from the Ft line.
The answer was billion of years ago billions of light years away.
We have not set foot on the nearest planet.
These questions may have no answers in 40,000 years.
But we will be closer. Unless of course "God did it" is ever accepted as an answer by the people we need to keep digging for all our sakes.
"God did it" doesnt hurt anyone....long as the people who believe it dont use it as a crutch to stop trying to learn. Believe it all you want. Then apply the scientific method to get something accomplished.
Re: For all you atheists: If there is NO God, how did the universe get here?
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]It comes down to "I dont know....so....magic" vs "I dont know.....lets keep looking into it". I dont settle for absurd fairy tale answers because the question is beyond our current ability to answer. The expansion of the universe suggests the big bang happened....so the origin of the universe isnt the issue as much as the origin of the matter that "banged" to begin with. Science cant prove where it came from.....faith doesnt even try. "God did it" is just a lazy approach that sidesteps the obvious question of....who created god. God always existing isnt an answer. Its a copout that requires you to accept the fairy tale to begin with.
You want to choose to believe the answer is in a book you believe in because you were born in the right place, time, and culture to convince you of it...go right ahead. But lets not try to carry that over into science.
Science is only in its infancy. Man only started asking these questions and working on the answers without being persecuted a few hundred years ago. And they didnt have much in the way of tools or the ability to converse with other like minded people.
Asking why we dont know the ultimate questions of life and the origin of matter while people alive today were around before we left our own atmosphere?
You might as well ask why a newborn cant dunk from the Ft line.
The answer was billion of years ago billions of light years away.
We have not set foot on the nearest planet.
These questions may have no answers in 40,000 years.
But we will be closer. Unless of course "God did it" is ever accepted as an answer by the people we need to keep digging for all our sakes.
"God did it" doesnt hurt anyone....long as the people who believe it dont use it as a crutch to stop trying to learn. Believe it all you want. [B]Then apply the scientific method to get something accomplished.[/B][/QUOTE]
And wait 40,000 years to possibly get an answer that is acceptable for you and the Scientists?
That belief system sounds a little far fetched in my opinion. As fantastic as the belief system in saying that God has always existed and he is in large part undefinable by terms we know and understand.
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If you think "I dont know....lets keep looking into it" is a belief system as absurd as a magical sky father who always was and always will be being the origin of matter but having none himself....fine. Me...I dont see how its a real system of belief to begin with. I see it as common sense. No answer is currently available....lets give the people working on it time.
I dont expent an answer in my lifetime. Or my childrens. Or their great great great great grand childrens. It took thousands of years for humans to create flying machines. I should expect the origin of matter to be worked out quickly?
In truth I doubt we ever know. Too many things could destroy the world/make it uninhabitable before we get there.
But not knowing is no reason to accept that the universe came to be when a bear shit in the woods...which makes about as much sense to me as Odin/zeus/god/whatever skyfather figure your grandparents believing in made you believe....just poofing everything into being.
Hell Zeus makes more sense. At least they had foresight enough to give him a backstory and parents so his followers didnt have to go with "He came from nowhere...dont ask questions". Granted....I belive there is no origin story for Zeus'...grandfather...but I dont expect there to be a logical explanation to any skyfather story.
Its all nonsense.
Every explanation is nonsense...till we figure it out rationally. And as I said...I dont expect to be around for that.
Re: For all you atheists: If there is NO God, how did the universe get here?
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]If you think "I dont know....lets keep looking into it" is a belief system as absurd as a magical sky father who always was and always will be being the origin of matter but having none himself....fine. Me...I dont see how its a real system of belief to begin with. I see it as common sense. No answer is currently available....lets give the people working on it time.
I dont expent an answer in my lifetime. Or my childrens. Or their great great great great grand childrens. It took thousands of years for humans to create flying machines. I should expect the origin of matter to be worked out quickly?
In truth I doubt we ever know. Too many things could destroy the world/make it uninhabitable before we get there.
But not knowing is no reason to accept that the universe came to be when a bear shit in the woods...which makes about as much sense to me as Odin/zeus/god/whatever skyfather figure your grandparents believing in made you believe....just poofing everything into being.
Hell Zeus makes more sense. At least they had foresight enough to give him a backstory and parents so his followers didnt have to go with "He came from nowhere...dont ask questions". Granted....I belive there is no origin story for Zeus'...grandfather...but I dont expect there to be a logical explanation to any skyfather story.
Its all nonsense.
Every explanation is nonsense...till we figure it out rationally. And as I said...I dont expect to be around for that.[/QUOTE]
oh, you'll know right when your lifetime is finished and over with and you die. You will see the magical sky father and He will magically transport your azz to hell
Re: For all you atheists: If there is NO God, how did the universe get here?
Yea im sure Ra is all over that. Luckily the kinds people who put in the legwork so you can tell me that bit of wisdom from hundreds or thousands of miles away through an intricate network of devices that took thousands of years of gradual progress to create will still be here working. Science isnt overnight. It isnt there for easy answers. There is no magic. Just thousands of smart people putting their all into small portions of the big questions to keep chipping away at human ignorance for all of our sakes.
Pray to who you want. Science is the reason your house is 72 degrees in the middle of the summer and invisible signals connect us through cans floating in space.
Im sticking where the real progress is made. Even if its slow.
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Re: For all you atheists: If there is NO God, how did the universe get here?
[QUOTE=DCL]am i the only one who knows who OP is already[/QUOTE]
you dont know me. ive never posted here before. i just started 2 days ago
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Re: For all you atheists: If there is NO God, how did the universe get here?
[QUOTE=DCL]you are quite retarded if you think anyone believes you.[/QUOTE]
ask "I'm Still Ballin" who I am. he can tell you
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Re: For all you atheists: If there is NO God, how did the universe get here?
[QUOTE=DCL]don't need to.
you've been here for years.
you made this account for one purpose and that is to troll, and that is because you always get banned like every other week.
jeff is already watching you.[/QUOTE]
lol let him watch, i dont even know who he is. i have one account and this is it. ive only ever had one account
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