How many mvps does kobe have?
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How many mvps does kobe have?
[QUOTE=TheMan;14599513]Kobe is winning this poll considering that most of LeBron votes are basically coming from like 3 trolls.[/QUOTE]
kobe is actually getting smoked in a landslide in this poll if we consider the fact that it was created when kobe had 2 finals MVPs and lebron had 3.
lebron now has 4 finals MVPs - literally double what kobe had - and now has 3 MVPs more than kobe plus every single other record in the record book including the only finals MVP over a 70+win team in NBA history.
this debate was over in 2013 and now it is just pointless. kobe himself would grudgingly say lebron had a better career.
This debate ended years ago, I don't know why OP keeps bumping this thread.
[QUOTE=red1;14634191]kobe is actually getting smoked in a landslide in this poll if we consider the fact that it was created when kobe had 2 finals MVPs and lebron had 3.
lebron now has 4 finals MVPs - literally double what kobe had - and now has 3 MVPs more than kobe plus every single other record in the record book including the only finals MVP over a 70+win team in NBA history.
this debate was over in 2013 and now it is just pointless. kobe himself would grudgingly say lebron had a better career.[/QUOTE]
The debate was over in 2013 when Bran had 2 rings and won a title averaging 26 ppg with 25 ppg on mediocre efficiency in the Finals w/Spurs gifting him a ring? Keep exposing yourself.
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14634200]The debate was over in 2013 when Bran had 2 rings and won a title averaging 26 ppg with 25 ppg on mediocre efficiency in the Finals w/Spurs gifting him a ring? Keep exposing yourself.[/QUOTE]
You're mentally retarded if you think otherwise. I said it then and Steve Kerr all these years later actually agrees with me. To a tee.
Steve Kerr won multiple rings with jordan. Just an FYI.
[QUOTE=red1;14634204]You're mentally retarded if you think otherwise. I said it then and Steve Kerr all these years later actually agrees with me. To a tee.
Steve Kerr won multiple rings with jordan. Just an FYI.[/QUOTE]
Ok, and you're going to disregard Kobe's all-time position or his impact despite Shaq, Magic, West etc all claiming otherwise. I can give you Lebron himself putting Kobe over him at his supposed peak ('09) but you'd never put Kobe over Bran that year, right?
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14634200]The debate was over in 2013 when Bran had 2 rings and won a title averaging 26 ppg with 25 ppg on mediocre efficiency in the Finals w/Spurs gifting him a ring? Keep exposing yourself.[/QUOTE]
rest in piss bitch :oldlol:
[url]https://youtu.be/7MG8wjJNdf4?t=62[/url]
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14634206]Ok, and you're going to disregard Kobe's all-time position or his impact despite Shaq, Magic, West etc all claiming otherwise. I can give you Lebron himself putting Kobe over him at his supposed peak ('09) but you'd never put Kobe over Bran that year, right?[/QUOTE]
dude. just stop.
I dont even know what you're aiming at. lebron was better than kobe in 2009 but I have no problem saying kobe had the better year.
[QUOTE=red1;14634215]dude. just stop.
I dont even know what you're aiming at. lebron was better than kobe in 2009 but I have no problem saying kobe had the better year.[/QUOTE]
Except he wasn't and Bran himself admitted that. :kobe:
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14634223]Except he wasn't and Bran himself admitted that. :kobe:[/QUOTE]
how come steve kerr said lebron was already top-5 after two rings? (and 4 MVPs, and being the best player of all-time for every age group up to that point....)?
why were you even surprised when I posted such an obvious fact?
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14634200][B]The debate was over in 2013 when Bran had 2 rings and won a title averaging 26 ppg with 25 ppg on mediocre efficiency in the Finals w/Spurs gifting him a ring?[/B] Keep exposing yourself.[/QUOTE]
thats [B]exactly[/B] what I'm saying.
[url]https://youtu.be/7MG8wjJNdf4?t=62[/url]
[QUOTE=red1;14634227]how come steve kerr said lebron was already top-5 after two rings? (and 4 MVPs, and being the best player of all-time for every age group up to that point....)?
why were you even surprised when I posted such an obvious fact?[/QUOTE]
He didn't, that quote you posted is from 2018 :kobe: . We've seen players like Morant light GS small-ball lineups for 47 in the POs. Ja averaged 38 ppg against GS and he couldn't even finish his last game.. Luka put up 32/9/6 and most of y'all thought he underachieved, Warriors aren't that great on D if we're keeping it real.
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14634240]He didn't, that quote you posted is from 2018 :kobe: . We've seen players like Morant light GS small-ball lineups for 47 in the POs. Ja averaged 38 ppg against GS and he couldn't even finish his last game.. Luka put up 32/9/6 and most of y'all thought he underachieved, Warriors aren't that great on D if we're keeping it real.[/QUOTE]
he said that after beating the cavs 2 years in a row... said lebron was already top-5 after 2013... watch the video again you moron...
he had every reason to praise kd or curry after his own stars won 2 rings in a row... but he went ahead and said lebron is the GOAT...
yeah I'd believe him... he only has 9 rings between the bulls, spurs and warriors....
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14634240]He didn't, that quote you posted is from 2018 :kobe: . We've seen players like Morant light GS small-ball lineups for 47 in the POs. Ja averaged 38 ppg against GS and he couldn't even finish his last game.. Luka put up 32/9/6 and most of y'all thought he underachieved, Warriors aren't that great on D if we're keeping it real.[/QUOTE]
lol, Kerr said in the vid which takes place in 2018 that 5 years ago he had him as a top 5 player ever (2013).
I think he is referring to peak play. By 2012, pretty much everyone would agree that LeBron reached a level Kobe NEVER did.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14634258]lol, Kerr said in the vid which takes place in 2018 that 5 years ago he had him as a top 5 player ever (2013).
I think he is referring to peak play. By 2012, pretty much everyone would agree that LeBron reached a level Kobe NEVER did.[/QUOTE]
its undeniable.
we already forget - lebron and kd were setting all-time efficiency records in 2013 and 2014.
lebron for all 4 of his MVP seasons was already better than kobe ever was (2009,2010,2012,2013)
lebron in any of these 4 seasons is undoubtedly better than any version of kobe.