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[QUOTE]Kelsey Russo: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]#Cavs announce they have acquired Rayjon Tucker and a 2027 second-round draft pick from the Jazz in exchange for cash considerations[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/kelseyyrusso"]Twitter kelseyyrusso[/URL]

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The guaranteed money for the 2nd rounder is getting less hard to understand by the minute. Give up yet another pick for one the handful of guys on the team that played D. He looked like an end of the defensive energy guy at worst and a 3 and D 6th man type possibly.

[I]Rudy/Favors/Udoka/Gill
[I]O'Neale/Niang/Morgan/Brantley
[I]Bojan/Ingles/Oni
[I]Mitchell/Clarkson/Hughes/Toolson
[I]Conley/William Goss/Forrest

Mudiay, Wright Forman

Batum, Robinson III

So 10 guaranteed deals, 2 two ways, 4 non guaranteed, 2 exhibit 10's, 2 free agents and two players the Jazz are rumored to have interest in. Need more vets. They obviously don't think as much of Oni and Morgan as has been reported. Might as well get some vets. Have enough young guys that won't play already.[/I][/I][/I][/I][/I]

[QUOTE]Marc Stein: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]One option for the forthcoming NBA G League season that has gained some traction, sources say, is a bubble concept in the Atlanta area that would cost NBA teams an entry fee in the $500,000 range. Not all 28 G League teams, under that proposal, would be expected to participate[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine"]Twitter TheSteinLine[/URL]



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Maybe this explains the Hughes guarantee?

[QUOTE]Bobby Marks: Rayjon Tucker has $340K guaranteed (out of $1.5M) with the balance fully protected if he is not waived by Nov. 29. The Jazz open up a roster spot (now with 14) and save toward the tax. Good value with Cleveland on the 2027 second. [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Equal to paying $340K for a second[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42"]Twitter BobbyMarks42[/URL]

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They only have 10 guaranteed. It opens up a camp space if they plan on carrying 20 which all teams aren't apparently. What happened with Niang's guarantee? Oni and Morgan?

[url]https://kslsports.com/447112/utah-jazz-trade-rayjon-tucker-to-cleveland-cavaliers/[/url]

[QUOTE]Meanwhile, Georges Niang, Nigel Williams-Goss, Miye Oni, and Juwan Morgan are expected to return to the team this season.
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By return you mean camp or the final roster? When are they guaranteed? Niang should have been before the draft. The others maybe not until the NBA guarantee date a couple months into the season? William Goss is making more sense with only Conley and the two way guy at point besides Mitchell and Ingles

[QUOTE]That would leave the Jazz with one open roster spot before players begin reporting for individual workouts in the next week. The Jazz have traditionally held one roster space open ahead of training camp to sign another team’s waived player.
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no they haven't! Sometimes they do. This is probably the most flexibility they've ever had at this point. Only 10 guaranteed right now by my count plus the two 2 ways. Could add 5 guys if they wanted. More vets would be nice. Looks like they're after at least one

[URL]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/11/27/21718628/donovan-mitchell-contract-extension-max-deal-utah-jazz-nba-denver-nuggets-bubble-jamal-murrray[/URL]

[QUOTE][B]Donovan Mitchell earned a max extension, yes, but first-round loss to Nuggets still eating away at him[/B]




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He hasn't earned it! Most players don't earn their rookie max extension. They are given it based on the hope that they will become that player. He isn't that player yet

[QUOTE]The depth of the team is one thing, and Mitchell thinks that having Bojan Bogdanovic healthy, along with a bench highlighted by Joe Ingles, [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/11/20/21583339/jordan-clarkson-derrick-favors-utah-jazz-nba-free-agency-free-agent-dennis-lindsey-justin-zanik"]Jordan Clarkson[/URL], [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/11/25/21718627/derrick-favors-utah-jazz-nba-trade-free-agency-new-orleans-pelicans-return-feels-like-home"]Derrick Favors[/URL] and [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/11/19/21574179/utah-jazz-nba-draft-udoka-azubuike-elijah-hughes-justin-kansas-jayhawks-syracuse-orange"]promising rookies[/URL] will give the Jazz more of a fighting chance.


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depth? Bojan, Favors spotting up in the corner and rookies aren't the difference sorry to say

[QUOTE]“We kind of tend to fluctuate,” he said. “You look at the 3-1 lead as an example, we got up, things changed and we stopped. All of us, you know, we stopped doing little things that got us to that point.”


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Was more Denver going big and the Jazz having no way to answer. Still don't other than Favors spotting up in the corner

[QUOTE]“We have to continue to be as perfect as we can be for all 72 games, the first round, second round, conference finals, championship.”


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Speak for yourself! You've yet to start out a season like you play 2 or 3 months into it.

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2020/11/27/21723005/utah-jazz-trading-rayjon-tucker-draft-pick-to-cleveland-cavaliers-for-cash[/url]

[QUOTE]The move is a rather minor one, as Tucker played in just 20 regular-season games in his lone campaign in Utah after getting signed at Christmas last year following strong play for the Wisconsin Herd in the NBA G-League.


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Hardly minor if you ask me. He looked like he should be in the mix for minutes to me. Certainly rather have him than Clarkson if not Ingles and Bojan at this stage

[url]https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1332434061093179395/photo/1[/url]

2 with the Suns and 1 with the Clippers

[url]https://www.nba.com/jazz/roster/grid[/url]

Official Jazz site has Mudiay and Wright Forman as part of the roster which I guess until they are renounced or sign elsewhere they are still Jazzmen.

[QUOTE]The assets they gave up won’t help them win anytime soon. Most importantly, if they get under the luxury tax this year they have more flexibility to cross it next year. The repeater penalty for being over the tax multiple years is something most teams try to avoid

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/oregonjazzfan"]oregonjazzfan[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2020/11/27/21723379/utah-jazz-trade-rayjon-tucker-and-a-2nd-to-the-cleveland-cavliers-for-cash#533945544"]Nov 27, 2020 | 8:10 PM[/URL]
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Disagree. I certainly think some of the rookies could have helped to beat Denver

[QUOTE][B]Still have one more to waive or Trade to get under the Tax line[/B]



Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/AdMan59"]AdMan59[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2020/11/27/21723379/utah-jazz-trade-rayjon-tucker-and-a-2nd-to-the-cleveland-cavliers-for-cash#533945635"]Nov 27, 2020 | 8:15 PM[/URL]
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and who would that be? Everyone else but the two rookies are in the rotation. That's all the money they can cut now but at the trade deadline if someone like Tucker had stepped up maybe Ingles would have been expendable. Who knows?

[QUOTE][B]Quin must have liked him. He got minutes in the playoffs.[/B]


I’m surprised. He was playing ahead of the other young bench warmers, why did we keep them and let Tucker go?
I hope this means they have someone else in mind for that roster spot.

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Big_B"]Big_B[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2020/11/27/21723379/utah-jazz-trade-rayjon-tucker-and-a-2nd-to-the-cleveland-cavliers-for-cash#533948116"]Nov 27, 2020 | 11:28 PM[/URL]
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Seemed like part of him signing here was him being on the roster and getting a chance to play because it made little sense that he was playing over guys who already had been here since summer

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[QUOTE]The [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/utah-jazz"]Jazz[/URL] also get the benefit of an open roster spot with this move. If another team waves a player the [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/utah-jazz"]Jazz[/URL] like they can now pick them up. It also has to be said that if things go wrong with the [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/297107/rudy-gobert"]Rudy Gobert[/URL], negotiations this opens up options for the [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/utah-jazz"]Jazz[/URL] if there were some kind of trade.


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They only have 10 guaranteed contracts.

[QUOTE]Because of the ongoing negotiations with [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/297107/rudy-gobert"]Gobert[/URL] it’s obvious there are a lot of machinations behind the scenes to get things in order. The good news, if there is any for having to trade assets to get cash, is that the [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/utah-jazz"]Jazz[/URL] are playing a contender's game. If [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/utah-jazz"]Utah[/URL] weren’t going for it they wouldn’t be dealing with problems like this. The signings they’ve made are the moves that a contender makes. Still, it’s never ideal to have to make trades just to clear space.


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the fact that they are having to worry about cash with this roster and think they are contenders is worrisome. Will the new owner put someone competent in charge eventually?
[QUOTE]The other is the exact opposite: The Jazz are making it a priority to get under the luxury tax even at the expense of losing assets because they recognize that they aren’t yet contenders. Granted, they didn’t give up anything major here, but a team that is "going for it" would be looking to add assets; not remove them.
Let’s hope that there is a bigger picture we can’t see working behind the scenes, but this looks like nothing more than a salary dump, which is the opposite of what contenders do.

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2020/11/27/21723379/utah-jazz-trade-rayjon-tucker-and-a-2nd-to-the-cleveland-cavliers-for-cash#533942850"]Nov 27, 2020 | 5:38 PM[/URL]
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Makes me wonder why they carried 6 rookies last year instead of vets if they didn't see a future for them. Only one is guaranteed for this year. Tucker could have helped them without a doubt. Plays D unlike most of their supposed rotation

[QUOTE]I am a little surprised we had to give up a draft choice though – you would think we would getting one back.

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/SKMike"]SKMike[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2020/11/27/21723379/utah-jazz-trade-rayjon-tucker-and-a-2nd-to-the-cleveland-cavliers-for-cash#533943161"]Nov 27, 2020 | 5:55 PM[/URL]
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yeah right! The guy is a fringe player like countless others. I certainly think he can play. He's better than Exum for sure so the Cavs did well here. Jazz still have Clarkson, no PF other than Favors spotting up in the corner

[QUOTE]Kelsey Russo: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The #Cavs are waiving Rayjon Tucker,[/URL] sources told @The Athletic.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/kelseyyrusso"]Twitter kelseyyrusso[/URL]



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Hard to imagine they don't need some D. He's better than Exum for sure!

[QUOTE]Chris Fedor: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]#Cavs have agreed to a training camp deal with Thon Maker,[/URL] sources tell @clevelanddotcom.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor"]Twitter ChrisFedor[/URL]



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would have loved him on a mere camp deal

[QUOTE][URL="https://www.sacbee.com/sports/article247479155.html"]The most likely suitors at this point appear to be the Kings, Los Angeles Lakers, Los Angeles Clippers and Utah Jazz,[/URL] sources said. The Kings could be looking for depth on the wing after they declined to match Bogdan Bogdanovic’s offer from the Atlanta Hawks.
– via [URL="https://www.sacbee.com/sports/article247479155.html"]Sacramento Bee[/URL]



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I assume they might be waiting for the Hayward trade to be finalized to see if Batum is bought out or not before committing to Robinson, Mudiay or whoever? They could bring in several guys though with only 10 guaranteed deals

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-lakers-clippers-among-four-023018126.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]Robinson will get a minimum contract and minutes off the bench with any of these teams. With the Clippers, Robinson would back up [URL="https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/29695/kawhi-leonard"]Kawhi Leonard[/URL] at the three. With the Lakers, he would be asked to play behind [URL="https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/29925/kentavious-caldwell-pope"]Kentavious Caldwell-Pope[/URL] and [URL="https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/29559/wesley-matthews"]Wesley Matthews[/URL] on the wing. Sacramento will start [URL="https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/29807/harrison-barnes"]Harrison Barnes[/URL] at the three, then things get thin. In Utah, [URL="https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/30119/joe-ingles"]Joe Ingles[/URL] starts at the three and Robinson would be asked to playoff [URL="https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/30083/jordan-clarkson"]Jordan Clarkson[/URL] with the second unit.
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I guess now that they're over the tax they can't use the exception? Maybe a sign and trade with one of their trade exceptions?