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Number two all time doe. Bawler said so :oldlol:
Sick box score analysis
You guys hella know ball.
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[QUOTE=warriorfan;15031499]Sick box score analysis
You guys hella know ball.
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Why was Kobe so bad in elimination games?
[QUOTE=RRR3;15031501]Why was Kobe so bad in elimination games?[/QUOTE]
Why were you so bad you never even played ball? You are out of your element. If it comes to advice on how to shovel books into the shelf efficiently we will ask for your consultation. Until then stand down and know your role.
[QUOTE=warriorfan;15031507]Why were you so bad you never even played ball? You are out of your element. If it comes to advice on how to shovel books into the shelf efficiently we will ask for your consultation. Until then stand down and know your role.[/QUOTE]
It really upsets you that Kobe withered in the clutch :(
[QUOTE=RRR3;15031508]It really upsets you that Kobe withered in the clutch :([/QUOTE]
Yeah i’m totally upset you never played competitive sports and have no idea what the **** you are talking about.
Got me!!! :roll:
3tard, serious question.
If Kobe was so inefficient and "not clutch", if he was such a detriment to his team... please explain how he was able to dominate and win so much.
For the sake of argument I will even let you discard the Shaq years. Let's just focus on that tail end of Kobe's prime run. Pau Gasol was a very good player but he was far from being a superstar. If he never plays with Kobe, very few people are probably talking about him today. He's a one time 2nd teamer and a three time 3rd teamer during an era that wasn't exactly known for it's bigs and centers. Kobe's championship teams were no more "stacked" than any of the players he's often compared to. Yet somehow, some way... he managed to keep his team contending year after year. Are you saying all of the credit should go to his teammates and coaches??
How did he do it!?!? Blind luck? :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Baller234;15031520]3tard, serious question.
If Kobe was so inefficient and "not clutch", if he was such a detriment to his team... please explain how he was able to dominate and win so much.
For the sake of argument I will even let you discard the Shaq years. Let's just focus on that tail end of Kobe's prime run. Pau Gasol was a very good player but he was far from being a superstar. If he never plays with Kobe, very few people are probably talking about him today. He's a one time 2nd teamer and a three time 3rd teamer during an era that wasn't exactly known for it's bigs and centers. Kobe's championship teams were no more "stacked" than any of the players he's often compared to. Yet somehow, some way... he managed to keep his team contending year after year. Are you saying all of the credit should go to his teammates and coaches??
How did he do it!?!? Blind luck? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
What team had a better roster than the Lakers in 2009 and 2010? They did what they were supposed to do.
You can stomp your feet all you want but the fact is Kobe was bad in elimination games.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15031520]3tard, serious question.
If Kobe was so inefficient and "not clutch", if he was such a detriment to his team... please explain how he was able to dominate and win so much.
For the sake of argument I will even let you discard the Shaq years. Let's just focus on that tail end of Kobe's prime run. Pau Gasol was a very good player but he was far from being a superstar. If he never plays with Kobe, very few people are probably talking about him today. He's a one time 2nd teamer and a three time 3rd teamer during an era that wasn't exactly known for it's bigs and centers. Kobe's championship teams were no more "stacked" than any of the players he's often compared to. Yet somehow, some way... he managed to keep his team contending year after year. Are you saying all of the credit should go to his teammates and coaches??
How did he do it!?!? Blind luck? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Bron stans will cope about how bosh never won anything pre bron while hyping up pau who according to their own standards never won anything. bosh had better stats too. And bron had bosh as a 3rd option to pau being merely kobe’s second!
[QUOTE=warriorfan;15031528]Bron stans will cope about how bosh never won anything pre bron while hyping up pau who according to their own standards never won anything. bosh had better stats too. And bron had bosh as a 3rd option to pau being merely kobe’s second![/QUOTE]
Bosh was better than Kobe according to you.
[QUOTE=RRR3;15031529]Bosh was better than Kobe according to you.[/QUOTE]
Idk man you flip flop a lot with advanced stats. You wanna say kobe is bad defender from drapm but when I ask you about Klay Thompson’s drapm you go ghost. If you wanna be a stat bron nerd then ya Bosh had advanced stats that topped Kobe in some areas…and Bron teamed up with this dude as a third option and still choked and lost. You are shooting yourself in the foot in this situation. You should probably do yourself a favor and stop posting.
[QUOTE=warriorfan;15031534]Idk man you flip flop a lot with advanced stats. You wanna say kobe is bad defender from drapm but when I ask you about Klay Thompson’s drapm you go ghost. If you wanna be a stat bron nerd then ya Bosh had advanced stats that topped Kobe in some areas…and Bron teamed up with this dude as a third option and still choked and lost. You are shooting yourself in the foot in this situation. You should probably do yourself a favor and stop posting.[/QUOTE]
PER is barely an advanced stat, look at impact stats. I don’t think I ever said klay was some great defender you are arguing with ghosts as usual.
[QUOTE=RRR3;15031522]What team had a better roster than the Lakers in 2009 and 2010? They did what they were supposed to do.
You can stomp your feet all you want but the fact is Kobe was bad in elimination games.[/QUOTE]
Lakers defeated the Spurs in the 08 WCF, the reigning champs. :oldlol:
Manu was dealing with ankle problems but up until that point he was playing well. That same Spurs team beat the Nash/Amare Suns AND the CP3 Hornets who were the talk of the town that year. Both 50+ win teams in a loaded west.
Kobe averaged 30 a game against the Spurs that series, a team that was elite defensively. The Spurs won game 4 and the Lakers were trailing big towards the end of the 1st half. Kobe led the comeback, scoring 11 in the third and [B]17[/B] in the fourth. This was back when scoring was A LOT harder than it is today.
[video=youtube;5aXVxcLm2qQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aXVxcLm2qQ[/video]
In 2009 the Lakers beat Orlando in the finals, another elite defensive team. They had Dwight who was the league's best rim protector and rebounder and they had a bunch of athletic wings who could hound the perimeter. That team had defense, perimeter scoring, perimeter SHOOTING... they were a good team. They don't make the finals if KG doesn't get hurt but they were still very good. They still beat the Pierce/Allen/Rondo Celtics which wasn't exactly a gimme. The Celts still went 18-9 without KG and finished 3rd in the conference.
Kobe averaged 32 a game against Orlando to secure the rang, again when scoring was a lot harder.
In 2010 the Lakers beat the Nash/Amare Suns in the WCF, who won just three games less than they did that year. Another REALLY good team. The last really good year that Suns team had. Not the absolute peak version of them, but they still had their core intact. They won 54 games that season. They SWEPT the Spurs. Parker missed 26 games that year but Duncan and Manu were both totally healthy. The Suns SWEPT them. Safe to say they were pretty good.
Now the Suns weren't exactly known for their defense, but in Game 6 they literally threw the kitchen sink at Kobe. Double teams in the post, Jason Richardson and Grant Hill bodying him 25 from the basket. :oldlol:
[video=youtube;wjjup42zLW4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjjup42zLW4[/video]
Bean's shot making ability was just too much for them that night. Lakers to the finals for the third straight year.
In the finals they meet the Celtics again, quite possibly a top 10 team all time. Again not the absolute best version of them, they were all older, but that team is still ahead of 99% of all NBA teams that have ever been assembled. Stacked to the gills with veteran star talent, not to mention Rondo who was on his way to becoming a star in his own right. Most importantly they were ANOTHER elite defensive team.
Kobe averaged 28 a game. Back to back rangz.
Please.
PLEASE.
Sit the **** down and stop talking.