2022 off season Post Gobert. A new era begins

[URL="https://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2022/news/passing-on-the-torch-bogdanovic-looks-to-croatia-s-young-guns-to-light-up"]Bojan Bogdanovic is in a reflective mood. Understandably so. Croatia’s tower of strength declares that FIBA EuroBasket 2022 will be the end of the line for his international career.[/URL] Not an irrevocable call, of course. Always time for a change of heart, albeit he is now 33 old and it’s been a dozen summers since he made his debut as a fledgling star at FIBA Basketball World Cup 2010, in Turkey.

– via [URL="https://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2022/news/passing-on-the-torch-bogdanovic-looks-to-croatia-s-young-guns-to-light-up"]FIBA[/URL]





Legacy, for the Utah Jazz guard, has acquired an importance. [URL="https://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2022/news/passing-on-the-torch-bogdanovic-looks-to-croatia-s-young-guns-to-light-up"]“I would like to leave something behind me,” he reveals. “So this EuroBasket is a perfect chance for me and my teammates to do something special.[/URL] It’s going to be pretty hard. I’m trying to help my young teammates to grow pretty quickly – and to make an impact on the game, right here, at this tournament.”
– via [URL="https://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2022/news/passing-on-the-torch-bogdanovic-looks-to-croatia-s-young-guns-to-light-up"]FIBA[/URL]






“We all know who Toni and Drazen are. We have talked here about how Dirk Nowitzki is one of the best European players Drazen is there as well. “So just trying to fit in their shoes with all medals that they won is really pretty tough for us. But [URL="https://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2022/news/passing-on-the-torch-bogdanovic-looks-to-croatia-s-young-guns-to-light-up"]we have got a really good young generation that is coming right now with (Ivica) Zubac, (Dario) Saric and a couple other young guys. So I hope they’re going to do something special as well.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2022/news/passing-on-the-torch-bogdanovic-looks-to-croatia-s-young-guns-to-light-up"]FIBA[/URL]

JD Shaw: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Blazers have waived center Norvel Pelle[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/JShawNBA"]Twitter JShawNBA[/URL]

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/revisiting-implications-derrick-favors-trade-110212338.html[/url]

[QUOTE]Meanwhile, the dust is still settling from the Jazz’s demolition. Utah hasn’t one cornerstone in place. OKC might already have three, depending how you view Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Giddey and Holmgren.

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maybe they do have their cornerstone? Who knows. No one was talking about Gobert in 2013-14

[QUOTE][URL="https://www.oklahoman.com/story/sports/2021/09/29/okc-thunder-derrick-favors-brings-veteran-leadership-after-jazz-trade/5893801001/"]Which brings us back to that Favors trade[/URL] from Utah to Oklahoma City. Favors, by the way, is still on the Thunder’s roster. He’s due $10.2 million this season on an expiring contract.

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be gone by the deadline

[QUOTE]The pick Utah sent to OKC in the Favors’ trade is top-10 protected in 2024. If Utah’s pick falls from No. 11 to No. 30, it conveys to Oklahoma City.

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very unlikely
[QUOTE]If the pick doesn't convey to the Thunder in 2024, it moves back to 2025 with the same top-10 protections. Who knows where the league will be by then, but there’s a chance the Jazz will still be amid its rebuild.

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no reason to think they won't suck still

[QUOTE]Odds are the Jazz pick will convey to the Thunder in one of those three years, but the trades of Gobert and Mitchell have certainly dampened OKC’s odds.

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optimistic. They will suck for quite a while likely

Hungary plays a great first half and tries to come back in the last minutes of the game in Cologne, but [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurobasket/1385980/france-hungary-eurobasket-comeback/"]France first pushes in the third quarter (25-14) and then keeps its nerves steady, winning 78-74 thanks to a great display by Rudy Gobert: 15 points and 9 rebounds, with 6/9 from the field[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurobasket/1385980/france-hungary-eurobasket-comeback/"]EuroHoops.net[/URL]




The new Minnesota Timberwolves player had his best EuroBasket 2022 performance so far, leading his team to the final victory. [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurobasket/1385980/france-hungary-eurobasket-comeback/"]He was joined by Evan Fournier (12 p., 5 a.) and by the other two French bigs, Vincent Poirier (10 p., 5 r.) and Guerschon Yabusele (17 p., 6/8 FG, 4/4 FT)[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurobasket/1385980/france-hungary-eurobasket-comeback/"]EuroHoops.net[/URL]

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14656764]Sounds to me like the best offer was early on before they signed Mitchell Robinson to his extension. Robinson, Barrett and at least 3 unprotected. The Knicks picks will likely be better even if it was just two unprotected. Than The Knicks didn't seem to want to give up anything. They played it right. Mitchell doesn't do that much for them especially after signing Brunson. For the Cavs it makes more sense. The GM's being buds probably made it easy to get Sexton's deal done. The Jazz knew exactly what he wanted already.[/QUOTE]

Tony Jones for The Athletic said the offers were basically slowly getting worse, with the last offer the Knicks made making them go straight to the Cavs to start a deal. Basically the Knicks thought they were the only ones who could get a deal done, so it'd get close and then the Knicks would take something out hoping to get the Jazz to buckle. Jazz always said they have other offers and Knicks didn't believe them, so felt safe playing chicken.

[QUOTE=El Kabong;14657248]Tony Jones for The Athletic said the offers were basically slowly getting worse, with the last offer the Knicks made making them go straight to the Cavs to start a deal. Basically the Knicks thought they were the only ones who could get a deal done, so it'd get close and then the Knicks would take something out hoping to get the Jazz to buckle. Jazz always said they have other offers and Knicks didn't believe them, so felt safe playing chicken.[/QUOTE]

yeah sounds like they weren't happy dealing with the Knicks from the moment they came to the playoff game

[QUOTE] Apparently, though, the Knicks’ failed trade pursuit could have had nothing to do with their offer but rather more on the Jazz’s stance about where to move Mitchell. [URL="https://clutchpoints.com/jazz-rumors-knicks-collateral-damage-in-utahs-alleged-payback-against-donovan-mitchell/"]According to Ric Bucher of Fox Sports, some Utah officials were not happy that the All-Star guard wanted out, so they sent him to the Cavs in what they view as a “payback” instead of helping him fulfill a dream of playing for his hometown team in New York[/URL].

– via [URL="https://clutchpoints.com/jazz-rumors-knicks-collateral-damage-in-utahs-alleged-payback-against-donovan-mitchell/"]Angelo Guinhawa @ Clutch Points[/URL]


[/QUOTE] [h=3]so would they have kept Gobert if Mitchell didn't want out?[/h] [QUOTE] “I think he has a bright future,” Gobert told Eurohoops when asked about the Mitchell trade. [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/nba-news/1385771/rudy-gobert-great-opportunity-for-mitchell-time-will-tell-if-jazz-were-right-with-rebuilding/"]“He’s one of the best young players in his position. He’s going to keep getting better. I think it’s a great opportunity for him to just get to a new system, a new team and be able to show what he can do.”[/URL]

– via [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/nba-news/1385771/rudy-gobert-great-opportunity-for-mitchell-time-will-tell-if-jazz-were-right-with-rebuilding/"]EuroHoops.net[/URL]






The Jazz didn’t stop there and, on September 1st, the Mitchell trade was announced. Utah got back Lauri Markkanen, plus Collin Sexton, Ochai Agbaji and three Draft picks. “That’s what Danny Ainge decided to do,” Gobert said to Eurohoops. “Sometimes you always have to explore all different options. That’s what they did. Time will tell if it was good or not. [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/nba-news/1385771/rudy-gobert-great-opportunity-for-mitchell-time-will-tell-if-jazz-were-right-with-rebuilding/"]I think he definitely did a great job in getting as many assets as possible. ”[/URL]

– via [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/nba-news/1385771/rudy-gobert-great-opportunity-for-mitchell-time-will-tell-if-jazz-were-right-with-rebuilding/"]EuroHoops.net[/URL]

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[url]https://www.deseret.com/2022/9/4/23334413/an-ode-to-donovan-mitchell[/url]

[QUOTE]When I was critical of Mitchell, I did not pull punches. I wrote and talked publicly about how his defense needed to improve, about his sometimes poor shot selection and about his need to play within a game rather than trying to rise above a game. Mitchell is not a perfect basketball player. But I never thought that Mitchell lacked effort.

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he certainly lacked effort on the defensive side. No one you can sweep that under the rug. Pathetic!

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2022/7/29/23283665/2022-utah-jazz-training-camp-roster-nba-free-agency-trade[/url]

17 guaranteed with hopefully at least 4 guys still on there way somewhere else

[QUOTE]Xavier Sneed (qualifying offer)[/QUOTE]

Can't see him being more than just a camp body/Star but we'll see

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/09/03/grading-the-donovan-mitchell-trade-for-the-utah-jazz/[/url]

[QUOTE]Ultimately, this was a deal the Jazz had to make, and the return was more than solid, and even if none of the players in return end up being at the level of Donovan Mitchell, the sheer volume of assets can help them trade for a star in the future, or gives them plenty of extra shots to draft a star. Was this a perfect trade? By all means, no. But was this a trade that the Jazz needed to make so they could move on with the future of the franchise and begin building for the next successful era in Utah basketball? Yes.

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Sexton is already close to Mitchell and two years younger and 60 million in savings! The lottery pick this year has better size. Shot better. Has to play more D. I'd be surprised if they don't end up with multiple players comparable to Mitchell. Will there be another Gobert is the question? Much tougher to find the franchise player

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/09/04/updated-jazz-depth-chart-donovan-mitchell-trade/[/url]

[QUOTE][h=5]Point guard: Mike Conley, Ochai Agbaji, Jared Butler[/h][/QUOTE]

I think Ochai is a 2. Be nice if he was a 1 with Sexton's game

[QUOTE]I highly doubt Ochai Agbaji will start over Mike Conley, but I think veterans like Stanley Johnson, Malik Beasley, and Rudy Gay will be relegated to the end of the bench in favor of some younger guys.

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no sense having Beasley on the team if he's not playing. I have him as the starter once Clakson is gone

Your missing some guys but who cares when you're doing an article on their roster I guess! :facepalm

Udoka/Kessler
Markkanen/Vanderbilt/Johnson
Fontecchio/Alexander-Walker/Bolmaro/Juzang/
Beasley/Horton-Tucker/Agbaji/Sneed
Sexton/Butler

[QUOTE]It’s also worth noting that the Jazz are probably not done making moves. Beasley, Clarkson, Conley, Bogdanovic, and Rudy Gay all have some amount of trade value. As the current roster stands, this is the depth chart, but expect movement and guys like Johnny Juzang to move up from the G-League Stars as the season goes on.

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why would we expect a team full of young guys to go to a two way guy unless injuries dictate it? Many guys ahead of Juang right now. 17 guaranteed contracts!

[QUOTE]Their current roster has a lot of scoring potential, and if Kessler can become a solid defender then the Jazz have their blueprint for the future. They need a star, but odds are they’ll find one with their seemingly endless new draft picks.

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odds aren't that high. Look at Jazz history. And not all stars are the same. Gobert carried a franchise. Mitchell rode his coattails. Who's the next guy you can build around? Maybe it's someone already here? Always fun to see who rises to the top as Gobert did with Hayward, Kanter, Favors and Burks

[URL]https://fansided.com/betsided/posts/donovan-mitchell-trade-makes-cleveland-cavaliers-nba-finals-contenders[/URL]

[QUOTE]There are few complete teams in the league. Cleveland now has one. The Eastern Conference is stacked, sure, but the Cavaliers should expect to compete for a top-four seed at minimum, and the new-found balance of the roster makes +6000 to win the NBA Finals a steal.

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complete with their tiny backcourt?

[QUOTE]I'd argue this roster is a better one than Mitchell ever worked with in Utah, and the Jazz were always among NBA Finals favorites in his time with the franchise.

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yeah imagine Gobert with a 4 like Mobley, Millsap or Towns :cry:

[QUOTE] Following the departure of Donovan Mitchell, many around the league are anticipating the Jazz looking to move Jordan Clarkson, Bojan Bogdanovic and/or Mike Conley before the trade deadline. [URL="https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/news/inside-donovan-mitchell-trade-negotiations-cavaliers-jazz-knicks-lakers-nba-news-rumors-brett-siegels-scoop"]Clarkson has generated the most interest thus far with the Memphis Grizzlies, Milwaukee Bucks, Sacramento Kings and Toronto Raptors said to be teams with initial interest[/URL] following Rudy Gobert’s departure earlier this offseason, sources told Fastbreak.

– via [URL="https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/news/inside-donovan-mitchell-trade-negotiations-cavaliers-jazz-knicks-lakers-nba-news-rumors-brett-siegels-scoop"]Brett Siegel @ Sports Illustrated[/URL]

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Good! Clarkson needs to go the most. You forgot Gay!

Along with Barrett, the Knicks had offered up former first-round pick Obi Toppin, Evan Fournier and two unprotected first-round picks, along with a couple of other protected picks and swaps, those sources added. [URL="https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/news/inside-donovan-mitchell-trade-negotiations-cavaliers-jazz-knicks-lakers-nba-news-rumors-brett-siegels-scoop"]Utah was looking for at least three unprotected first-round picks and had been consistently asking for four first-round picks from New York[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/news/inside-donovan-mitchell-trade-negotiations-cavaliers-jazz-knicks-lakers-nba-news-rumors-brett-siegels-scoop"]Brett Siegel @ Sports Illustrated[/URL]





Charlotte Hornets: While they did make a competitive offer for Donovan Mitchell that drew some interest within Utah’s front-office, according to a league source, the Charlotte Hornets find themselves where they have been all offseason long – trying to find ways to move forward and be a competitive team in the Eastern Conference. [URL="https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/news/inside-donovan-mitchell-trade-negotiations-cavaliers-jazz-knicks-lakers-nba-news-rumors-brett-siegels-scoop"]Charlotte has expressed interest in bringing back former All-Star guard Kemba Walker, assuming he is bought out by the Detroit Pistons[/URL].

– via [URL="https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/news/inside-donovan-mitchell-trade-negotiations-cavaliers-jazz-knicks-lakers-nba-news-rumors-brett-siegels-scoop"]Brett Siegel @ Sports Illustrated
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Michael Scotto: Let’s start by looking at this for the Cavaliers that left. Ideally, [URL="https://*********.com/lists/cavaliers-rumors-donovan-mitchell-kevin-love-caris-levert-ricky-rubio-lebron-james/"]Collin Sexton’s camp wanted $20 million annually. Getting $18 million annually is a win overall for a guy that missed most of last season with a torn meniscus. From what I heard, Cleveland was not willing to go above the luxury tax or move assets like a draft pick[/URL] of some kind to shed Cedi Osman’s salary theoretically to pay Sexton closer to that $18 million annual range. In the end, with Sexton prepared to take the qualifying offer for this season and unrestricted free agency looming next summer, Cleveland didn’t want to lose him for nothing. By including Sexton in the Donovan Mitchell trade, it worked out well for both slides.
– via [URL="https://*********.com/lists/cavaliers-rumors-donovan-mitchell-kevin-love-caris-levert-ricky-rubio-lebron-james/"]Michael Scotto @ *********[/URL]

[url]https://kslsports.com/492028/what-value-do-pick-swaps-offer-jazz/[/url]

[QUOTE]Ideally, the Jazz find themselves in a situation similar to Boston in 2017 where they have once again established themselves as a bonified playoff team by 2026, while the Cavaliers or Timberwolves have fallen to the dregs of the NBA, and an already winning roster in Utah can add another player from high in the lottery in a draft swap.

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not likely

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/09/05/utah-jazz-five-players-still-traded/[/url]

[QUOTE]A 35% three-point shooter, he has improved slightly over the last five seasons and is a reasonable spot up forward who can still bang around in the paint. On a contender, he would have a role off the bench.

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they'll hope he has a role. Last season was disappointing. Two more years on his deal. Good luck!

[QUOTE]His value isn’t super high, but this is what I envision a trade looking like. The trade would have to happen after October 10th, since Gallinari is a recently signed player, but by taking an injured Gallinari, the Jazz manages to get a first-round pick for a player who might not be worth it.

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that would be nice. Gallanari only a one year deal?

[url]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/268533/Gersson-Rosas-Handled-Donovan-Mitchell-Trade-Negotiations-For-Knicks[/url]

[QUOTE]Rosas was hired by the Knicks as a consultant in February, but took control of the Mitchell talks due to his relationship with Zanik. The Minnesota Timberwolves parted ways with Rosas last September.

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no one likes Danny? I hope he starts having some fun at least!

Miye [URL="https://theathletic.com/3570673/2022/09/06/warriors-free-agent-workouts/?source=twitterhq"]Oni, Ty-Shon Alexander, Wesley Saunders and Jon Axel Gudmundsson are among the other free agents expected at the upcoming workout,[/URL] sources said. Golden State held a similar free-agent workout a couple of weeks ago, sources said, which included five-year veteran and former lottery pick, Shabazz Muhammad, nine-year veteran Solomon Hill, Tyler Cook and Kelan Martin.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/3570673/2022/09/06/warriors-free-agent-workouts/?source=twitterhq"]Anthony Slater, Shams Charania, Shams Charania and Anthony Slater @ The Athletic[/URL]

Dionysis Aravantinos: Lauri Markkanen in Finland’s 98-88 win over the Czech Republic: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]34 points, 9/20 FG, 13/14 FT, 10 rebounds , 1 assist, 1 steal, 1 block, 34 efficiency, 34 minutes[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/AravantinosDA"]Twitter AravantinosDA[/URL]

Two weeks ago, Bosnia and Herzegovina got a great 96-90 victory against France in the 2023 FIBA World Cup European Qualifiers. Today, Vincent Collet’s team got its revenge, winning 68-81 with a great display by former Real Madrid teammates Guerschon Yabusele (15 p., 5 r.) and Thomas Heurtel (14 p., 7 r., 8 a.). [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurobasket/1386823/bosnia-france-eurobasket-2022/"]French centers Rudy Gobert (11 p., 12 r.) and Vincent Poirier (9 p., 7 r.) were also helpful, just like Evan Fournier (14 p.). France goes up 3-1[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurobasket/1386823/bosnia-france-eurobasket-2022/"]EuroHoops.net[/URL]

Ian Begley: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Toure’ Murry has announced his retirement after a nine-year pro career. Murry, who played for the Knicks in 2013-14 and starred and Wichita State, aspires to coach at the college or pro level. Here is Murry’s statement:[/URL] pic.twitter.com/cvfuBnQDDY

[URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurobasket/1387015/giannis-41-greece-italy-croatia-qualified/"]Italy booked their ticket to the Round of 16 in the last game of the night by beating Croatia[/URL] with the two teams sharing a 2-2 record and the tie-breaker over Estonia which has a 1-3 record. The final score was 81-76 with the duo of Simone Fontecchio and Nicolo Melli scoring 19 points each for the winning side. Bojan Bogdanovic was a one-man offense for Croatia but his 27 points were not enough.
– via [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurobasket/1387015/giannis-41-greece-italy-croatia-qualified/"]EuroHoops.net[/URL]

[QUOTE] [URL="http://twitter.com/slcstars/status/1567926172125925376"]Salt Lake City Stars: TRADE ALERT We’ve just completed a trade with @SouthBayLakers Receiving -Returning player rights for Paris Bass,[/URL] Elijah Cain & a 2022 second round draft pick Traded to -Returning player rights of Jared Wilson-Frame, a 2022 third round pick & a 2023 first round pick

– via [URL="http://twitter.com/slcstars/status/1567926172125925376"]Twitter[/URL]


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come on Danny someone else is having all the fun!

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14657783]Good! Clarkson needs to go the most. You forgot Gay![/QUOTE]

I'd of thought Gay would be appealing to a few veteran teams, places like Miami, LA (both teams), Philly, Boston etc. Guess it depends on how washed up teams think he is.

[QUOTE=El Kabong;14658623]I'd of thought Gay would be appealing to a few veteran teams, places like Miami, LA (both teams), Philly, Boston etc. Guess it depends on how washed up teams think he is.[/QUOTE]

I think he has something left. He looked good his last few games Juancho was just a lot better fit

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2022/9/8/23338793/could-utha-jazz-move-forward-with-mike-conley[/url]

[QUOTE]But let’s say that Conley wants to be here and is OK seeing out the rest of his contract in Utah. He would be an incredible guy to have in the locker room to mentor the young players on the Jazz roster. There’s not many people who would be better suited and more valuable in that role.

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and Butler sits or plays with the Stars where he already showed plenty? He needs to go

[QUOTE]I completely agree with you that if the Jazz want to make the most out of this rebuild, they have to lose a lot of games and try to get the best odds in the draft lottery. The goal is to get top prospects, and I think that the Jazz are more aware of this than anyone else.

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Clarkson will help you lose a lot of games. Who wants him taking minutes from someone or who wants to watch that shit show?

[QUOTE]Competition between Walker Kessler and Udoka Azubuike will be very fun this year and so will watching the development of both players. With opportunity to play heavy minutes, I’d expect that both guys are going to show different strengths and weaknesses through the first couple months of the season and we’ll learn a lot.

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Should be Udoka's to lose. He showed he could play last year. Rather he can stay healthy remains to be seen. Kessler should be with the Stars if he's not ready. Need a young vet though that could be Lauri if Kessler isn't ready

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/09/08/utah-jazz-is-rudy-gobert-a-future-hall-of-famer/[/url]

not much question at this point

[QUOTE]It’s worth noting that Gobert [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2022/06/24/rudy-gobert-erases-utah-jazz-instagram/"]left the Jazz on bad terms[/URL]. That being said, beef with fanbases is not grounds to keep him out of the Hoops Hall when his time comes. Plus, his lack of postseason success could be fixed in Minnesota, who instantly became a contender when the Wolves [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2022/07/02/utah-jazz-win-rudy-gobert-trade/"]mortgaged their future for him[/URL].

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he didn't leave on bad terms!:facepalm

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/09/08/4-teams-show-interest-jazz-sixth-man-jordan-clarkson/[/url]

Get it done. I vote for the Kings getting raped again!

[QUOTE] ClutchPoints: Charles Barkley: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]World Wide Wes [Knicks executive William Wesley] said [the Jazz] ‘wanted my wife, they wanted my kids, they wanted my grandkids [for Donovan Mitchell]. They were just trying to rip somebody off[/URL].

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/ClutchPointsApp"]Twitter ClutchPointsApp[/URL]

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and they did!:cheers:

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/09/05/utah-jazz-five-players-still-traded/4/[/url]

[QUOTE]After trading for Talen Horton-Tucker, [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2022/09/03/ochai-agbaji-best-part-mitchell-trade/"]Ochai Agbaji[/URL], Collin Sexton, and Stanley Johnson, [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4395695/jared-butler"]Jared Butler[/URL] might be the odd man out in the backcourt. After a rookie campaign in which he only saw the court in half the games and got a single start, it’s safe to say any team trading for him is gambling. They would be going after him based on his college career, although let’s be honest, he had an amazing time at Baylor.

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Johnson again? Butler is really the only pg out of those guys


[QUOTE]Lucas Nogueira

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not in the league for 4 years!

No thanks on Bertans

[QUOTE]The Jazz have 17 on their roster, we need to get rid of 2 not bring in 3 for 1




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doubt that is a big concern. Competition is good

[QUOTE]Bojan, Mike, and Rudy are good as gone. Though it might take a while to trade Gay, since the likeliest trade for him is Boston and Danilo Gallinari can't be traded until October. However, I don't see the Jazz getting a first-round pick for him as Boston has other players/options they can consider. At this point, I'd be willing to trade him straight across for an injured Gallinari — just to be rid of him

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yep. Getting rid of him and not giving assets would be a deal to take

[QUOTE]I hope the Jazz keep Clarkson — at least for a while. If he ends up being the sole remaining veteran with more than 3 years experience, he'll become the alpha-male on a team full of youngsters — which I suspect will drive his trade value through the roof by the trading deadline.

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might make him untradable. I want no part of it that is for sure. Never did! Rather have Dante :cry:

[QUOTE]Beasley and Fontecchio are young enough to be part of the rebuild and both could be our starters, give them Conley, Bogey and Clarkson for that same deal plus Munk.




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probably all gone by the trade deadline

[url]https://hoopshabit.com/2022/09/07/predicting-utah-jazz-starting-lineup/[/url]

let's hope not. Clarkson starting over Conley or Beasley? Unproven rookie over someone who has shown something?

[url]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/268563/Jazz-Changed-Opinion-On-RJ-Barrett-In-Mid-July[/url]

too bad they weren't in love with him when the Mitchell Robinson deal was offered. He'll be better than Mitchell

[url]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/268558/Eight-Teams-Control-85-First-Round-Picks-Over-Next-Seven-Years[/url]

I hope Danny can start having some fun again!

[url]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/268550/Victor-Wembanyama-Measures-7-Foot-4[/url]

too tall!

[URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2022/09/09/utah-jazz-center-udoka-azubuikes/"]When Utah Jazz center Udoka Azubuike arrived at the Basketball Without Borders Africa camp held in Cairo, Egypt in late August, the significance of his presence there wasn’t initially apparent to him.[/URL] Sure, it was his first time back on the African continent since he emigrated from Nigeria to the United States about 10 years ago, but that itself didn’t put him in an overly sentimental mood.
– via [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2022/09/09/utah-jazz-center-udoka-azubuikes/"]Salt Lake Tribune[/URL]




[URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2022/09/09/utah-jazz-center-udoka-azubuikes/"]“It didn’t really hit me until we actually started the camp. Just seeing the kids, seeing them practice and work hard, just seeing the joy on their faces,” Azubuike told The Salt Lake Tribune[/URL] in a Zoom interview from Cairo. “These kids don’t have a lot, but they are super-grateful, they’re excited for the opportunity. … They’re trying to learn and get better. It just puts stuff in perspective.”
– via [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2022/09/09/utah-jazz-center-udoka-azubuikes/"]Salt Lake Tribune[/URL]






[URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2022/09/09/utah-jazz-center-udoka-azubuikes/"]“Some of these kids don’t have a basketball gym, like we have in the States, where they can go every day and work hard and get better at their game.[/URL] Some of them have to go to a different country or an academy just to find somewhere to play basketball,” Azubuike said. “For me, growing up, it was the same way. I had to walk 40 minutes just to get to an outdoor basketball court to shoot hoops. Some of these kids don’t have that luxury where they can just go to the gym, lift weights, and all that stuff.”
– via [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2022/09/09/utah-jazz-center-udoka-azubuikes/"]Salt Lake Tribune[/URL]

[QUOTE] While Conley was relatively solid last season (72 games played, 40.8 percent shooting from three-point range), [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10048234-whos-next-in-utah-jazz-fire-sale-insiders-dish-on-conley-clarkson-bogdanovic"]the Jazz may struggle to find a team willing to take on his contract[/URL]. “He’s over the hill,” one executive said. “His production is not worth [his salary].”

– via [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10048234-whos-next-in-utah-jazz-fire-sale-insiders-dish-on-conley-clarkson-bogdanovic"]Eric Pincus @ Bleacher Report[/URL]

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He's hardly over the hill and he earned that money last regular season. He did suck in the playoffs. Put the ball back in his hands with some size next to him and he'll be fine.

[QUOTE] Meanwhile, Bolmaro, the No. 23 pick in 2020, has yet to prove himself. [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10048234-whos-next-in-utah-jazz-fire-sale-insiders-dish-on-conley-clarkson-bogdanovic"]“The bloom is off the rose [on Bolmaro],” one former executive said. “He hasn’t done much in two years.”[/URL]

– via [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10048234-whos-next-in-utah-jazz-fire-sale-insiders-dish-on-conley-clarkson-bogdanovic"]Eric Pincus @ Bleacher Report[/URL]


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22 in a couple of days. I like him. They need to try and fix his shot but he's got potential

John Gambadoro: Phoenix being good does work against them in competing for players as their 1st-round pick(s) are not expected to be as good as others. [URL="http://twitter.com/Gambo987/status/1567921381584818178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1567921381584818178%7Ctwgr%5E81ad23a7be86619b8444b318aceca2efa4fba0cf%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fclutchpoints.com%2Fjazz-rumors-lakers-among-4-teams-battling-for-bojan-bogdanovic-trade%2F"]In the case of Bojan Bogdanovic, the Suns, Lakers, Mavs & Knicks all have interest with draft picks & expiring contracts the key to a deal[/URL].
– via [URL="http://twitter.com/Gambo987/status/1567921381584818178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1567921381584818178%7Ctwgr%5E81ad23a7be86619b8444b318aceca2efa4fba0cf%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fclutchpoints.com%2Fjazz-rumors-lakers-among-4-teams-battling-for-bojan-bogdanovic-trade%2F"]Twitter[/URL]

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14659085]John Gambadoro: Phoenix being good does work against them in competing for players as their 1st-round pick(s) are not expected to be as good as others. [URL="http://twitter.com/Gambo987/status/1567921381584818178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1567921381584818178%7Ctwgr%5E81ad23a7be86619b8444b318aceca2efa4fba0cf%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fclutchpoints.com%2Fjazz-rumors-lakers-among-4-teams-battling-for-bojan-bogdanovic-trade%2F"]In the case of Bojan Bogdanovic, the Suns, Lakers, Mavs & Knicks all have interest with draft picks & expiring contracts the key to a deal[/URL].
– via [URL="http://twitter.com/Gambo987/status/1567921381584818178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1567921381584818178%7Ctwgr%5E81ad23a7be86619b8444b318aceca2efa4fba0cf%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fclutchpoints.com%2Fjazz-rumors-lakers-among-4-teams-battling-for-bojan-bogdanovic-trade%2F"]Twitter[/URL][/QUOTE]

give me unprotected Knicks picks!

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2022/9/9/23299710/five-lessons-learned-from-recent-nba-tanks[/url]

[QUOTE]The [URL="https://www.sactownroyalty.com/"]Sacramento Kings[/URL] have been tanking, trying to win but ultimately losing, for decades. Despite all their efforts, they’ve never landed that franchise piece. As fine players as were DeMarcus Cousins and Tyreke Evans, as solid as De’Aron Fox and Tyrese Haliburton are, none were THAT guy and it’s kept them in the doldrums all this time.

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and yet Cousins was an all NBAer that was hyped as one of the best! :roll:

[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz tried that avenue with Mike Conley who turned out to be an excellent veteran, but not the “right” one.

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Not sure he wasn't right. Max contract Mitchell and a coach that refused to make adjustments in the playoffs for whatever bizarre reason were the bigger issues. Conley was the best fit next to their franchise player Gobert they had at that position by far. It needed to be Mitchell but wasn't